Topics created by Zhukov44

the full germany push to russia is generally the way to go.

I just am skeptical of japan doing early russia play, because the income japan gets out of it is small and he gives up much in his setup. Makes dealing with china / uk pac / anzac / usa really hard especially at a low income.

I am a full believer in a strong japan going for his objectives. It makes allies commit more and makes allies have less income as a whole

@wwestpro:

@Zhukov44:

I’m unclear whether a successful Sea Lion (G1-G3) changes the political situation.

Does the fall of London bring USA and/or USSR into the war or do they still have to wait till USA3/R4?

pretty sure OOB rules are No, they wait like normal in the instance of an attack.�  But Alpha 3 states this:

“If the United States has war declared on it by an Axis power, an Axis power captures London or any territory in North America, or Japan makes an unprovoked declaration of war on the UK or ANZAC, the United States may declare war on any or all Axis powers.”

Um….you’re quoting Global rules. (1st hint tipping you off should have been the mention of Japan & ANZAC…no Japan or ANZAC in Europe 1940)

So to answer the OP question. No, it does not bring USA into the war when London falls. OOB rules are pretty clear on that one (See page 19 -21)

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 Carriers; 12 PUs remaining

Place Units - Americans
            2 Carriers placed in sz3

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 72 PUs; end with 84 PUs total

Territory Summary for Americans :

Washington : 1 Artillery and 3 Infantry
    W.U.S : 1 AAGun, 1 Armour, 1 Bomber, 1 Factory and 3 Infantry
    N.U.S : 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry
    Central U.S : 1 Armour, 1 EarlyFighter and 1 Infantry
    E.U.S : 1 AAGun, 1 Factory and 1 Infantry
    S.U.S : 1 Factory and 2 Infantry
    sz2 : 1 Destroyer and 1 Transport
    sz3 : 2 Carriers

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 61 / 62
    Russians : 91 / 117
    Italians : 39 / 70
    French : 41 / 41
    ColonialFrench : 22 / 22
    Finns : 15 / 15
    British : 59 / 73
    Romanians : 13 / 13
    Americans : 72 / 84

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25952.11#msg898456

Works great  :-)

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 armour and 3 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

Combat Move - Russians
            3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
            2 infantry moved from Archangel to West Russia
            1 artillery moved from Archangel to West Russia
            1 armour moved from Archangel to West Russia
            1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.
            3 infantry moved from Caucus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 armour moved from Caucus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery moved from Caucus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 armour moved from Russia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 artilleries moved from Russia to West Russia
            3 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 submarine moved from 4 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone

Combat - Russians
            Battle in West Russia
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 8 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 8 infantry in West Russia, round 1 :  4/12 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in West Russia, round 1 :  3/5 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Russians , 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in West Russia
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 5 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  0/9 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in West Russia, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in West Russia
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry in West Russia, round 3 :  2/8 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in West Russia, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in West Russia
                Russians win, taking West Russia from Germans with 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 3 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 1 :  3/9 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 1 :  5/6 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Russians , 1 armour owned by the Russians , 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Russians roll dice for 2 armour and 2 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    2 armour owned by the Russians , 1 armour owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Russians roll dice for 2 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                retreated to Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -20
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucus

Place Units - Russians
            1 armour and 3 infantry placed in Caucus
            2 armour placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs total

Territory Summary for Russians :

Soviet Far East : 2 infantry
    Novisibirsk : 3 infantry
    Yakut S.S.R. : 2 infantry
    Kazakh S.S.R. : 2 infantry
    Caucus : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
    Evanki National Okrug : 2 infantry
    West Russia : 1 flag, 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry
    Burytia S.S.R. : 2 infantry
    Russia : 1 aaGun, 2 armour and 1 factory
    2 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    16 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer

Production/PUs Summary :

Italians : 18 / 19
    Russians : 26 / 26
    Germans : 36 / 38
    British : 31 / 33
    Japanese : 30 / 30
    Americans : 42 / 42

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25949.7#msg898429

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 carrier and 2 destroyers; 0 PUs remaining

Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 5 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Eastern Canada to 1 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 1 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 8 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egypt to Libya
            1 fighter moved from Anglo Egypt to Libya
            1 armour moved from Anglo Egypt to Libya
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Libya
            1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Kenya
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 8 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western Canada to Eastern Canada
            1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 40 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in 5 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 5 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
            Battle in 45 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                1 submarine owned by the Japanese Submerged
                1 submarine owned by the British Submerged
            Battle in Libya
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Libya, round 1 :  3/5 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Libya, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British , 1 armour owned by the British , 1 infantry owned by the Germans , 1 armour owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Libya
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Libya, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in Libya, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Libya
                British winJapanese win with no units remaining with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Battle in 59 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 cruiser
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 59 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Libya to Anglo Egypt
            3 infantry moved from India to Persia
            1 aaGun moved from India to Persia
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Anglo Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan
            1 fighter moved from Libya to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 5 Sea Zone to United Kingdom

Place Units - British
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers placed in 8 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total

Territory Summary for British :

Eastern Canada : 1 infantry
    Australia : 3 infantry
    Kenya : 1 infantry
    Persia : 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
    Trans-Jordan : 1 bomber and 2 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
    New Zealand : 1 infantry
    42 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    59 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser
    8 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 transport
    45 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    33 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 24 / 29
    Germans : 40 / 40
    British : 30 / 30
    Japanese : 30 / 30
    Americans : 42 / 42

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@Gargantua:

TripleA is cheat-proof

That’s not entirely accurate.  There is a scenario I can think of in which some shady circumstances can occur - in a particular scenario.

It’s safer to say - Axis and Allies is cheat proof, as long as your dice are done through a server - and you pay attention to the actual game mechanics.

Well I’m mostly comparing it to Battlemap, where it would be easy to add units here or there.  If extra units are discovered, there’s no way to tell if it’s cheating or an unintended mistake.

In my experience, it’s the unintentional mistakes that most often mar Battlemap games.  Consequently, many players spend alot of time checking maps and moves for accuracy.

With TripleA the above scenarios don’t happen, because you’d have to use edit to add in units that shouldn’t be there.  And any edit is clearly visible in the game history.

Good game guys.

RD vs. Winner of Gamer/Yoshi for the title.  :-D

@Zhukov44:

GG LL, it was very interesting to see your Plan B (or C) carried out.

I liked your late-game tactics.  I think it could have been a close one if you’d captured FIC for the Allies, so I was pretty determined to save FIC for Axis, and just barely accomplished this.

I rarely play KJF so I haven’t got much experience with Pacific wars.  But one thing I would try (if I was in a position where USA controlled the Pacific and Moscow had fallen) is shucking from Alaska/Bry (in conjunction with uk shucking to mor).  That way you can take advantage of USA’s production capacity, and you keep your fleet close to Tokyo.  But I guess I didn’t make that easy by moving the tanks through Siberia.

It was kind of fun to play around a bit with some crazy stuff.  But in the end, it was TMT.

TMT = too many tanks  :lol:

See you in the playoffs perhaps, and I already posted the result.

Cheers

Good game.

I was getting a bit ansty stacking Epl and really hoped you wouldn’t do the can opener attempt, but as they say, hope isn’t a plan.  lol!  Luckily I was able cover it.  But could have turned into a disaster for me.

Look forward to seeing you on the battle field again.

@jiman79:

Even with a decent R1 west russia battle, you can pretty much stack Karelia every time, unless USSR also buys 3 arm. Do you consider 3inf 3 arm as the superior R1 buy?

Yup. Another one I’ve seen and tried is 4 arm, 1 art. That one really makes Germany think twice about moving stacks forward (or buying planes on G1) :)

Matt, you’re one heck of an improved player.  Nice game.

The AA50 ladder is now up and running at TripleA War Club.

http://www.tripleawarclub.org/modules/comp/

The ladder is a rankings system, or an ongoing competition, using the TripleA program.  Ladder games are played on the lobby or via PBEM.

To join up, get an account with TripleA War Club and register for the ladder.

Each ladder match is a 2-game series, with each playing both Axis and Allies.

Like the Revised ladder, which used a set 9 bid, there is a set bid for the Allies in AA50.

41 low luck=11 bid
41 dice=8 bid
42 dice and ll=9 bid

Since every match is a 2-game series, the Ladder competition will soon provide reliable statistics on bids and game outcomes.

There are a wide variety of skill sets competing on the ladder…from novice to expert.

Sign up and check it out!

@Violent.copper:

To add on to Cmdr Jennifer, You are also leaving the Brittish Navy to Invade the Norway Round 1 or then Sz 5 R2 or R3 overall doing more harm than good to Germany I never want the Allies in SZ5 Personally.

You know, hitting Norway may not be the worst thing to happen to Germany…if you go Fleet Heavy like Functionetta and Emperor Mollari (and many others I am sure) on Germany 1.  Now their ships are in range of yours (you have to hit it from SZ 3).  Realistically speaking, you may have 2 destroyers, cruiser, submarine, carrier, 4 or 5 fighters and a bomber in range of SZ 3 at this time…depending what you did, what happened to you and how you are positioned at the end of G1.

The FIC IC is OK if the US goes 100% Pacific. As a matter of fact I think it is one of the best IC positions in this case. It is harder to lose than any of the island positions. Both of the seazones it serves may also give a safe build spot close to the action. Think putting planes on carriers to maximize those two slots. Also as axis_roll pointed to the FIC IC does not require any naval servicing. If it is not needed for ships it can be producing ground units for South West Asia. The Allies are thin here even with the cluster they start with in India, it will not take many troops to decide this area. This opens up the possibility of an IC in India and these can support themselves.

I do think that akreider2 is correct in that if the US does go 100% Pacific (keep in mind this is how I play Allies) that Japan does need to limit its IC building. I know as the US I love to see a Japanese IC go down in E. Indies on round 2. This is a fixed point that the Japanese navy will have to defend. While FIC is also a fixed point, it can be relived by land, and is more interior, so this reduces its drawbacks in a US PTO game. I think the Key to surviving these as Japan is to avoid having to defend multiple areas that one can not afford to lose. While the islands do matter for IPCs and NOs they can be left for a turn or two in enemy possession if the situation requires it. With an IC at that location it becomes a different consideration an MUST be defended and this is what allows the US to kill Japan.

in 41 mabe a DD with the bismark?

@ww2freak:

I don’t quite follow why Persia is so strategic…does no one build a facility in India for UK anymore?  just have the Russkies (with support) defend Persia??

Allot depends on what Germany has done on G1.

Did they buy all tanks?  Did they attack Egypt?  Are any UK units left alive there?

If Germany gives the allies some time by buying inf, and/or not attacking Egypt, then the allies might consider an IC for UK in India.  USA would most likely need to come hard after Japan then to keep Japan from being able to focus all her might on taking the UK Indian IC.

This can be a very fine balance for the allies to employ.  but if you can pull it off, it does seem to be a pretty strong game plan.  Hope the russians defend well enough, they need to hold out until UK/USA assistance arrives

Still have the same problem.  Any help would be appreciated.