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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Greece
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            6 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Greece
                Germans attack with 3 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Germans win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from French with 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 104 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            3 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from France to Southern France
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 112 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 93 Sea Zone
            2 infantry placed in Southern France
            2 fighters placed in Western Germany
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs

@Boldfresh:

YoJack is the winner two weeks ago - what’s happened since?  Does YoJack have a team to play next?

Yes, and bid has been made.

I’m currently having trouble with triplea, which is really annoying. Will try to solve it tomorrow…

I guess game will start soon

@JDOW:

I played that opening in my current game vs bmnielsen. However meanwhile I think the merits of having invincible subs are outperformend by the big ships the Allies remain. I even don’t think that despite the carrier buy UK is forced to buy units in UK only. Sea lion still too unattractive even against an invitation by UK.

I think that opening should be combined with a Moscow rush. the advantage is that Axis has a little breath in the west due to the invincible subs and Germans usually don’t lose Air G1.
If Germans decide to play a slow and long game I still think its better to remove the capital ships. Those ships certainly came back in round 4-6 and the Allies can invest more money in air/amphibious units and need to invest less in ships to protect TTs.

Agree that Sea Lion is not suppose to be an option ; threatening it however is important to my mind, because it forces UK to defend, and not to invest massively in Africa from start.

For sure, letting big ships alive should make it painful for Italy. But as I said, I think there are several possibilities as good G1 :)

Congrats Yoshi.  Both times you contested the title, you won.  Great stuff!

I understand, and indeed Egypt almost closed the game. Maybe with a 15 ipc bid that could work out ?

But nevertheless, I’m not sure that it’s a good bid. To my mind, one infantry in Egypt is almost mandatory.

This game almost cannot provide any hint abou your strat, due to the dice. But I think that something similar to my G1 should be kept in mind to know if this strat can be valid or not.

Cheers,

Yoshi

I actually wanted an IC in India but it was also not strong enough. I needed more units in India from the bid. The plan is going much better in another game but I’m finding that I’m not closing in on Japan fast enough.

@Boldfresh:

i decided if the dice wouldn’t even out on R1 i was not going to continue.  the dice got worse on R1.  i’m not a good enough player to beat you with even dice, and i have no hope with bad dice.  sorry i couldn’t give you a run for it.

best,
Bold

I can understand… that was a very unlucky start.

The move towards the italian navy did not look bad to me. But I think since you knew you’d finish with no tp in Europa with UK, the US1 buy should have been partially in sz10, so that you could send some units in Algeria quickly.

An interesting point of killing the italian navy early is to make Italy poor ; but this was not the case here.

Anyway, thanks for the game :)

Thank you–you are the best and of course failed to disappoint :)

sorry to read that…

thanks for the game…

thanks.  Good game.

Almost opened the door there with persia.  Wasnt thinking during the battle, should have let the russian ftr die and take it with the arm to keep your out of caucasus.

no not the main point.  i believe you played better better than me, that’s why i said i would need above average defensive dice to compete.  instead i got below average, which only hastened my demise.

very well played by you.

@Yoshi:

Thx for the game :)

Thank You

when you re up for a league one just say cheers :)

@Yoshi:

As you said, the battle of Ukraine of R2 was a very big problem, and I guess a good part of the game has been played there. I have no idea if making this attack was good or not, since after all you had the possibility to retreat which kind of make up the lower odds ; but I believe you made a big mistake by rolling a second turn there ; of course, you were not supposed to be diced like that, and that’s really unlucky ; but after the first turn you had no more odds of winning, and in average you had nothing really nice to win…

It was a gamble.  Against the best player on the site I wanted to take a shot when I could.  If I get lucky it is a big advantage to me.  It backfired, and the only way I could get back into the game again is if you let me, and you didn’t.  Again, very well played

let’s try a last up…

Yep, during purchase phase. Here a link to the new game

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=26197.new#new

Yes there was a turn where Russia got diced in Ukraine I believe, and then I did not look if you could have prevent an Epl stack or not from Germany, but this was the case (I think you protected Caucasus after that).

For the uk bombers… they were a good buy I think, since they forced me to defend better both Italy and France. But maybe you could have used them better than a trade in France. I was wondering how to manage them if they had been traveling to Egypt with a big stack for instance.

Anyway, good game I believe, of course one can see that some details lost you, because you did not anticipate enough your ideas, but overall there were several good ideas. Was a nice game :). Good luck in the league ;)

Ok, thanks for the answers, it removes any doubts :)

@Yoshi:

But isn’t this choice only for the jet fighters hits ?

no, jet ftrs can intercept Rockets AND bombers…. unless the bombers are shielded via more escorts than jet ftrs.

@Yoshi:

Otherwise, if the defense player has 1 jet fighter and 1 AAGun (say attacker does not have Long Range Air Craft tech, but he got Rockets tech), then the bomber would be more protected that if the defense wouldn’t have jet power (2 hits@1 needed to kill the bomber).

More protected with less defending jet power?  I don’t think so. 
Jets can intercept both rockets AND SBRs.

Your example negated the bomber interception since you had escorts (LRA).
By allowing the attacker to choose the casualties, the attacker is rewarded for having rockets AND LRA.

@Yoshi:

Thank you for the answers. I know that this is a very special case, but I encountered this point (of the beginning of the thread) in a friend game.

You are welcome.  And it’s not a problem, I will support Enhanced when ever I can.

Short Version:

If all 4 units to be moved are still in EUS at the start of the US move, then the Algeria amphib can be done using only 1 TRN and the 2 units it can carry, the other INF and the AA would have to be moved in NCM (assuming the US won the amphib)