Smooth, F_alk. Real smooth.

Y-mon, it’s over 900 now!
Time for an update.

@F_k:

• Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes -
• Principiis obsta -
• Qui tacet, consentiere videtur. -
• Vincere scis, victoria uti nescis - [?quote]
  I had some trouble with your post. My universal translator must be malfunctioning. My Vietnamese is rusty and very limited …

g00,
your question, as clarified by G_t, is answer correctly by G_t.

I, however, would prefer to leave the arm in Africa to renew colonialism.

DS, watch out! BB is trying to pass you in posts.
But really … who cares! I just noticed I had passed a big milestone recently. Those of us who do(or, as for me, did previously)care … what does it matter as many posts are one word, one phrase or poppycock.

After losing the 1991 Persian Gulf War, the government of Saddam Hussein admitted that Iraq had WMDs.

The UN has acknowledged that Iraq had WMDs.
Hans Blix has acknowledged that Iraq had WMDs.

Iraq’s documentation in response to UN Resolution 1441 did not address the existence nor destruction of the WMDs which Iraq had previously acknowledged.

Iraq is acknowledged by many national gov’ts. as being more fanatical about documentation than the Third Reich.

@Tariq:

“We were born in Iraq and we will die in Iraq, either as martyrs, which is a great honor, or naturally, if God’s will. Do you expect me, after all my history as a militant and as an Iraqi - one of the Iraqi leaders, to go to an American prison, to go to Guantanamo? Hmm? I would prefer to die.”

No Aziz, you wouldn’t, and no Aziz, you didn’t. He did not become a martyr, he did not commit suicide, and let there be no confusion - he had plenty of chances. The bottom line is he would gladly go to Guantanamo if that’s what it meant to stay alive. He’s just like all these other terrorist leaders. They’re all for martyrdom, until it’s their turn.

Random thoughts …

Japan is an excellent choice as it attacks and defends without dying :wink: on J1.

First, ya gotta know how much instruction the newby will accept.
If NONE … then let him/her play a game by her/himself.

Never allow newbies to play Germany unless all are new - or all are new but you and you play UK(warning him/her to always protect Germany with inf.)

Other than the above my group likes to give the newby her/his choice after one of us explains the main objectives of any country the newby’s interested in. After s/he choses, we offer them a 3x5 index card with three(3) points we HIGHLY recommend they follow, five(5) points of which we recommend they follow any three(3) they chose, and three(3) warnings. We also leave the instructions close to the newby.

We came up with these cards to have an option to babysitting or flat out losing with the newby on your side.

Some want to watch a game first, which we consider the worst alternative.
We also give them the option of talking them through a first move and then reducing the advice as the game progresses.

Embargo!
Are you including the brilliant UN ‘Oil for Food’ program? Or as Gen. Franks referred to it, “Oil for Palaces…”
And the UN allowed such shenanigans to continue for 12 years and 17 resolutions, which they didn’t enforce.
When the US was willing to wait for the UK to work out an eighteenth resolution, France said it would veto any resolution pertaining to military action against Iraq(though that is exactly what UN Rersolution 1441 refers to - without specifics - which are not required as far as I have read in the UN resolutions.)
OK, so who needs a resolution?

DS, that’s right.

If you look closely at the same map you’ll see that Al Gore lost in his home state of Tennessee. No candidate has yet won the presidency without carrying his home state.

Of course, the argument over whether Tennessee or Washington, DC was his home state is another discussion altogther :P .

“George W. Bush is my president.” - Al Gore, 2001.

Yeap! Most celebrities and many politicians seem to think of Middle America as ‘fly-over country.’ It is filled with ‘the poor, uneducated masses’, which need to be humored, but cared for by ‘those who know best.’ ‘Those who know best’ live, work and spend most of their time on the west coast (from LA to Seattle) and the east coast (from DC to MASS [though Vermont, NH and ME think that they are part of those who know best.'])
I’ve traveled (SE Asia, Japan and the Philippines, Mexico and Puerto Rico) and spent enough time listening to people from all over the US. I’d rather move to and hang with folks from Presque Isle, ME, Appalachia, VA(Yes, there is such a mined-out, side track town!), Montgomery or Mobile,AL, Palestine, TX(I was there decades before they got their own Wallymart), Salt Lake City, UT(nice people, different faith), Ravendale, CA(My dad was born there.), Clarkston, WA(on the Snake River, near the big city of Lewiston, ID), Billings, MO(which I like to call “The biggest little city in the biggest little state.”), Kansas City, KS or St. Louis, MO. This is not to say that the east and west coasts don’t have some positive, intelligent and friendly residents, but I find that more small town, non-west/east coasters are able to disagree agreeably.

From newsmax.com

ABC is receiving phone, mail and e-mail complaints about a show it is considering. The main character would be played by Janeane Garofalo. The premise of the show involves a “60 Minutes”-style TV news program, with Garofalo playing a producer.

Meanwhile, Garofalo is so unpopular that Miss USA did not want to pose for pictures with her. The New York Post reports that as Miss USA Susie Castillo was being guided into a photo shoot with Garofalo, Castillo’s publicist cried: “Not with Janeane! Not with Janeane! [Miss USA] can’t get caught up in her politics.”(Smart Miss USA.)

Apparently, even after witnessing the overwhelming reception the Iraqi people gave the coalition forces, Garofalo refuses to apologize for her actions. “I have nothing to apologize for,” the comedic actress told Malzberg.

Back on March 6, Bill O’Reilly asked Garofalo, “If you are wrong… and if the United States - and they will, this is going to happen - goes in, liberates Iraq [with] people in the street, American flags, hugging our soldiers … you gonna apologize to George W. Bush?”

Garofalo replied: “I would be so willing to say, ‘I’m sorry.’ I hope to God that I can be made a buffoon of, that people will say, ‘You were wrong. You were a fatalist.’ And I will go to the White House on my knees on cut glass and say, ‘Hey, you and Thomas Friedman were right … I shouldn’t have doubted you.’”

The Left Coast Report believes when Garofalo wished to God that she would be “made a buffoon of,” it looks as if she got exactly what she wished for. Now about that apology …

Anybody else want to donate some broken glass? :)

@various:

Remember the flags on the pulled-down statue of SH?

Yea, I do! Ain’t it GREAT?

Putting up the US flag? Well, if you like it, then it must be something everybody likes, right?

I saw the live broadcast of the event. The Iraqi people cheered and gestured when the US flag was placed over SH’s statue face. Please, note how quickly the US soldier took the US flag down and placed an IRAQ FLAG of the former government of Iraq on the statue. The people continued cheering in a friendly fashion. The Iraqi standing on the pedestal reached for (and most likely asked for) the US flag and waved it to the crowd, which continued to cheer (as the Iraq flag was being placed over SH’s face.

What’s your problem? The 200 (low estimate) Iraqi people were elated. Go back and find a valid complaint.

RE: British berets … The US has purchased a large # of berets for the US Army … the problem is … they were made in China (PRC.) Nyuk, nyuk! :P

Name a country which is trying diplomacy, i.e. shipping food to Iraq (along with food distribution professionals [who I bet will make business contacts for future [i]diplomatic ,better read as economic, benefits]), and saying “Paris is America’s strongest ally in the war against terrorism.”
Did anyone say France? You guessed correctly.

Those who do not live in France …
If you don’t want to argue for France …
Don’t take the arguments personally.

Euro peoples … What’s the difference between the EU and EU region? does the second (EU region) include neighboring nations that are not in the EU?

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAKBWN9NED.html

Well, are they there … or aren’t they?
Only their camel attendants know for sure! :)

Below is an abridged version of the following website/article -
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/5633005.htm

Widespread Arab opposition to the war is putting intense pressure on the pro-American monarchy that governs Saudi Arabia. Saudi officials publicly deny that they have allowed the U.S. military to use the air base for anything more than enforcing no-fly zones.

The decision is not surprising because having combat troops in Saudi Arabia has a downside for the United States. Osama bin Laden has used the presence of non-Muslim troops in an important land of Islam to rationalize attacks on U.S. targets around the world. Before the war, Secretary of State Colin Powell said the defeat of Saddam would let the United States “change the presence levels of American troops throughout that region.”

The United States will continue to maintain Army forces in Kuwait, a Navy base in Bahrain and air operations in Qatar and possibly the United Arab Emirates.

The United States wants to help the Saudi royal family calm the anti-American mood among Saudi citizens. Saudi Arabia is an important Middle Eastern ally that controls a fourth of the world’s oil supply and is in position to influence some of its more radical Arab neighbors.

The Saudis chose to quietly help a powerful ally by granting the request while, at the same time, publicly opposing the war. Saudi officials floated an unsuccessful peace initiative days after the war started.

My question is …
How will the Saudi royal family (over 5000, but how many have money, power and privilege?) change the country’s form of government? the royals want to keep power, but the mullahs and people want a say in their country’s government.

Thoughts?

@Kantabricus:

The Allied pressence there has to be enough to hold, but not to the extent of making the German player think Africa is lost (ie 4 - 6 US infantry a turn). The Germans have to think every turn, that Africa is retakable, so that they keep on investing in an African Campaign.

First, I seldom put a ftr in Africa against a player who I know is average or better (I don’t want to lose it by skill, insight or luck.) Second, with a 2 inf bid in AES, I rarely put more than 2 inf/1 arm more in Africa (4 inf/1 arm /o a bid.) After 2-3 turns I’m either shipping inf to Ukr, Cau or sunk. :) (just the fleet.) If you have bothered to ship another group of 2-3 inf or 2 inf/1 arm on US3-4 you’ve just slowed the Allied push on Germany! Thank you. :wink:

I like the “Kriegsmarine Pacific ploy.” I had forgotten it. It’s been a long time since I felt threatened enough, as Germany, to try it. I think I’ll try it the next time I’m Gemany anyway, but I’ll have to look at how much it opens up the Eurobelly.

The US Congress (House of Representatives and Senate)
writes the checks (har de har har!)
Balance? Nobody! (Republican or Democrat.)
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:lol: Sorry :lol: , I coildn’t resist. :roll:

In Virginia, indoor bathtubs are verbotten.

In Kansas (pronounced KANZ-a*s), if two trains are passing one another, heading in opposite directions on parallel tracks, each train must stop and wait until the other one is gone. (Any wonder why nothing much happens in Kansas?)

First, I apologize for the ‘ramble’ on my part … was repeatedly called away … poor excuse … should have used ‘smooth flow of thought check’ (advanced spell check…get it!)

F_alk, I’ll give you a few points …

A) I did jump early on the WMD … barrels appear to be pesticide and rockets contents to be tested yet …
B) the following statement, unclear as to which war, has confused us both … “Once upon a time most countries agreed not to attack Germany. What if they had stuck to it?”,
C) ‘i strongly would recommend to look for better sources.’ Please, recommend 2 or 3! Thank you,
D) You made a point here … I said, “Even the US…” and you replied, ‘After a German urged the Gov’t… and it was emigrants who were the prominent heads working on the bomb, from Germany, Italy, Hungary (AFAIR).’ Please, do not assume that I was giving the US full credit for everything.

Now for a little clarification …

1. “how many years … how many resolutions … UN and US tried diplomacy,” and your answer is … ,
2. Germany is not in the same region (on the same continent) as France? Are they not both part of the EU? Guess I need to get a new World Atlas ,
3. should you have said, ‘Politics does not equal anti-Americanism?’,
4. please, note the word “appears” in the WMD statement,
5. regarding your ‘economics of the US are not an issue’ comment, note the line “Capitalist economies do not function well with the threat of terrorism…” ,
6. as to interests … what world leader, of any regard in history, did not look out for his/her country’s own interests. Don’t we all hope that those are his/her interests? Then,
7. “safety and security” related to threats and violence against the nation and citizens.
   8 )‘WWI’ … a good example of stupid 'joining or following larger agreements,
8. the old ‘compare rutabagas to rhubarb,’ from your perspective, is seen by me as “oranges to tangerines” … not perfect , but many comparisons have differnces,
9. ‘Are all of you such cowards?’ I do not speak for everyone(everyone breathes a sigh of relief.)and I won’t take that as an insult … just a sign of your loss of patience with me,
10. ‘Xi, could you do me a favor and not vote until you changed your sources of information?’ What is your problem? (see C, above) You agreed with me,
11. ‘we don’t see it that way, as we just see that they seem to be “against us”.’ I’ve seen it both ways, but have only met 3 Mullahs(not a large Muslim population here),
12. ‘why should France or Germany spend a single Euro?’ Diplomacy! ,
13. ‘See how the US tries to makes friends.’ This was after a few of our soldiers were blown away by ‘innocent civilians’ who got close and went BOOM!

In conclusion …
@F_k:

‘Have you (or anybody of you) seen “Bowling for Columbine”?’

Thusly, you show how intellectually gullible you are by considering this piece of Hollywood tripe a credible source. Much of the world bases its opinion of the entire US population on the movies made by liberal nuts in “Whorellywood.” Et tu, F_alk!

This looks like the start of a new forum …
@F_k:

To be proven, plus: it was a pure terror attack, like the terror bombings Germany had to suffer. So, to safe your soldiers, you get back to use terrorists means? Afraid that an American could actually die while fighting for his ideals?

this one, too, with lots of quibbling over semantics …
@X:

"Bush may have to bear the burden of taking the next step in military defense … the preemptive attack for a truly just cause, not for false reasons as has often been done in the past. "
’ “May have” sounds like “hasn’t done yet”… that would imply that even this war is not for a “truly just cause”.’

An ignorant nationalist seeking enlightenment …

“There you go again!” - my reponse to d_r_'s witty remark.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
“There you go again!” - Ronald Reagan’s reponse
to his debate opponent’s stupid statements.

Guest, methinkest thou wasteth thine index fingers.
This thread has been inactive for over 6 months.
I think the original guest has learned his lesson and then some.

Look elsewhere on these fora for a good discussion.
In fact, try “General Discussion!”

In Colorado,

It is illegal to kiss a woman while she is asleep