@Imperious:
All Hitler would need to do is after finishing off France, be the best of friends with Stalin and even use him to take the UK colonial assets within reach with the spoils going to each party in a fair way. Make peace with UK or bomb them into rubble and never get allied with Japan or DOW USA. After this just let the holdings percolate for at least 20 years.
Not the dumbest thing Hitler could have done to be sure… there is merit here…
@CWO:
The UK: The East India Company: Costs 2 IPCs. Attacks and Defends on 1. Moves 1. (Use the UK�s Infantry from Axis and Allies Classic to represent them. Meant to be throwaway units to slow down the Japanese in mainland asia. Can only be produced with a complex created in the India territory by the UK).
The East India Company was a trading organization, not a military force. In other words, it was a “company” in the corporate sense, not in the sense of being an infantry company.
Lol…
@Colt45:
This is not a dating website.
Oh Shizzle…
[quietly deletes post about being a Scorpio and liking to take long walks on the beach…]
Ok, I looked over my auxillery bin… I don’t have 1940 Global, I don’t have AA50 (yet), but I did (for some reason) collect a small set of Italians… probably just so that I could add them as “flavor” units for Germany in 1942 (“southern Germans” if you will).
Anyways, all the Italians I collected are from 1940SE, so they are, in-fact, Italian… since I didn’t buy any copy of the game, every Italian I have is what I thought I might want/need for “southern Germans” with lee-way. Oddly enough, I was VERY CLOSE to the unit set that comes with the new AA50, here’s my list… some are dead on, others are very close plus or minus a unit or two:
I have for Italy:
10 Infantry
6 Tanks (M15/42)
4 Art (Cannone da 75/32)
2 AA
6 Fighters (C.202)
3 Bombers (P.108)
3 CVs (Aquila)
3 BBs (Littorio)
4 CAs (Zara)
6 DDs (Soldati)
4 Subs (Marconi)
4 Transports (Iridio Mantovani)
Units I was short on compared to AA50
10 Inf (I suppose I wouldn’t need any, since AA50 has the same Italian infantry I already have?)
2 Art
1 Bomber
2 Subs
Aside from possibly the infantry, looks like i’ll have to pick up a few units to match, since I wouldn’t want to use German/Japanese units for Italy, especially when i’m so close to the numbers in AA50 already.
Better winter gear on the eastern front. Allowed rommel to countet attack dday landings with armor.
There wasn’t much armor near the beach to counterattack with… due to the compromise, most of it was inland and unable to reach during the day due to aircover… the other thing that wasn’t there was Rommel himself… he was on vacation in Germany on June 6.
For my part, I think based off of cost to the German war effort with the least impact on German policy during the War the easiest thing they could have done to benefit themselves would have been to get Spain involved in the War.
Had Hitler gotten Spain involved in the war it would have changed almost nothing, certainly not the outcome… Spain was no super power, they had no massive military, even the most beneficial thing getting Spain involved in the war could do, possibly take Gibraltar, would have been nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Spain was militarily and emotionally depleted after the long Civil War… they were in no-condition to take on America, the US and Russia alongside Germany. If anything, adding Spain would have actually weakened Hitler’s position, as adding the entire Spanish coastline as a possible landing spot for Allied forces in continental Europe would have been yet another further manpower drain on Germany.
Nope, sorry… there’s many things you can argue that would have given Hitler a better chance at winning the war, major or minor… getting Spain to join-in is not one of them.
@CWO:
Next table:
Italy
Land units:
Infantry: 20 x Italian
Tank: 6 x Carro Armato M14/41
Artillery: 6 x 70mm Type 92 Battalion Gun (Japan) [open-strut version]Air Units:
Bomber: 4 x Mitsubishi G4M Betty (Japan)
Fighter: 6 x Messerschmitt Bf-109 (Germany)Sea Units:
Aircraft Carrier: 2 x Graf Zeppelin Class (Germany)
Battleship: 2 x Bismarck Class (Germany)
Cruiser: 2 x Admiral Hipper Class (Germany) [transom stern version]
Destroyer: 6 x Type 1934A Class (Germany)
Submarine: 6 x Type VII (Germany)
Naval Transport: 4 x Dithmarschen Type (Germany)
This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks Mark… you’re ok in my book, despite what GeneralHandGrenade thinks… :-D
I can’t believe you can’t see this!!!
You forgot to factor in the Cruisers. What about the Cruisers!?!
Simple elementary my dear GeneralHandGrenade… The WOLF FORMULA most certainly takes ships into account… There was an incident in the Philadelphia Naval Yard involving the USS Eldridge in 1943… an experiment you could say, based on the same WOLF FORMULA theories, both mathematically and physically the interrelated nature of the forces that comprise electromagnetic radiation and gravity, in other words, uniting the fields of electromagnetism and gravity into a single field.
At the request of the Navy, elements of the WOLF FORMULA were altered to creating a stealth technology that would render USS Eldridge invisible to radar and magnetic mines, much as you mentioned above. Accounts of the pending experiment, the USS Eldridge was fitted with the required equipment at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard. Testing began in the summer of 1943, and it was successful to a limited extent. One test resulted in Eldridge being rendered nearly invisible, with some witnesses reporting a “greenish fog” appearing in its place. Crew members complained of severe nausea afterwards. Also, when the ship reappeared, some sailors were embedded in the metal structures of the ship, including one sailor who ended up on a deck level below that where he began and had his hand embedded in the steel hull of the ship, as well as some sailors who went “completely bananas.”
This all ties back into the Quantum Zeno Effect which, as you recall, I mentioned earlier… I would not alter the WOLF FORMULA in any way, especially the fifth line, as the US Navy did in Philadelphia in 1943… you end up with really bad results, and will probably lose your attempt to take Moscow, or you may end up embedded inside the concrete foundation of your home. I take no responsibility if you attempt to alter the fifth line of my formula.
@CWO:
Yes, though Italy is a more extreme case than Russia. In Europe 1940 2nd ed., all of Italy’s units are Italian-specific, whereas in the Anniversary reprint (which has fewer unit types than 1940.2, and has common generic AAA units), Italy only has nation-specific infantry and tank units; the rest of its equipment is German or Japanese. The USSR has a British aircraft carrier, and American designs for its artillery piece and its sub and its transport ship; the rest of the units are Russian-specific, however, including the Soviet-design battleship, cruiser and destroyer that were introduced in one of the more recent games, and which is an improvement over the original Anniversary game.
This sounds like a job for my “common unit bins” from my 2nd ED games… you wouldn’t happen to have a unit count for Italy would you? I have some Italian units as “flavor” for Germany in 1942SE, but I wonder if I have enough to cover a “full nation” like Italy in AA50.
@Imperious:
I wish the Germans had the updated Artillery unit from AA42.2
Its so much better
I don’t think there’s a law against using the 2nd Ed German artillery with the new AA50… I have a pretty good stash of them I know I will use once I get AA50.
Are there any new unit sculpts?
Nothing new to A&A… only new to AA50… some second-edition sculpts that didn’t exist when AA50 was around the first go have appeared in the reprint, but none are new to A&A if you have any of the second edition games.
In fact, some of the sculpts are throwbacks or recolors from other nations… so no, not “new” sculpts to AA, only new to AA50.
@Young:
I’m even more stressed out with some of the personalities on this site lately.
Take care,
YG.
I have a pretty-good idea where YG is coming from and why he had to part from the site… I have a feeling this trend will continue until something is done to stop the downward trend that is compelling the good people like YG from leaving.
So, as a whole, national units for countries like Italy and Russia are “more Italian and more Russian” in 1940SE than they are in AA50(SE)? Is that the gist I’m getting?
Ya, it looks like it went up about $10 from the pre-orders…
Also, Amazon finally has pictures of the game, map and components on their website now…
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0734BWNV9/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I24USNJHI0MA5Q&colid=OGKJ3U9HLIUN
So who’s going to be the first to put an Amazon review up (with pictures)?
Japanese controlled Chinese territories have a Chinese roundel, so if any of the Big Three recapture them, they’re returned to China instead of being occupied by an ally.
Oh I get it… does Russian territory that is controlled by Germany at the start of the game have Russian emblems in them so something like the US or UK doesn’t end up controlling the Ukraine?
SS and GeneralHandGrenade, I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to correct both of you about the fifth line… Neither of you are considering the Quantum Zeno Effect in this particular measurement I included in the Wolf Formula: making repeated measurements of a quantum system can prevent it from changing its state. Between measurements, the system exists in a superposition of two possible states, with the probability of one increasing and the other decreasing. Each measurements puts the system back into a single definite state, and the evolution has to start over.
One of the strangest and most important consequences of the Wolf Formula is the idea of “entanglement.†When two quantum particles interact in the right way, their states will depend on one another, no matter how far apart they are. You can hold one panzer division in Berlin and send the other to Moscow, and measure them simultaneously, and the outcome of the measurement in Berlin will absolutely and unequivocally determine the outcome of the measurement in Moscow, and vice versa.
The correlation between these states cannot possibly be described by any local theory, in which the particles have definite states. These states are indeterminate until the instant that one is measured, at which time the states of both are absolutely determined, no matter how far apart they are. This has been experimentally confirmed dozens of times over the last thirty years or so of Axis and Allies, with light and even atoms, and every new experiment has absolutely agreed with the quantum prediction.
The effects of the Wolf Formula measurement can be interpreted in a number of different ways– as the physical “collapse†of a wavefunction, as the splitting of the universe into many parallel worlds, etc.– but the end result is the same in all of them. A quantum particle can and will occupy multiple states right up until the instant that it is measured; after the measurement it is in one and only one state… in either case, this will result in a favorable outcome in Axis and Allies. Please double-check your math before making false conclusions.
Once dice are being tossed about its definitely too late for “oh wait, I forgot to move…”
Hard to tell with the resolution… are they using “nation-specific” for all nations and unit types, or are some “borrowed” from other nations equipment… like is the Italian Battleship Italian, or is a German Battleship in brown as an example? Is every unit modeled on something from that nation?
@Imperious:
the map is the same except for one replaced china symbol in a Japanese controlled area
I’m slightly confused… does the new AA50 map have China controlling more territory than the original, or Japan controlling more territory than the original?
Either way you slice it, looking at all these pictures and referring to what I mentioned about not really having the budget to get this personally till after Christmas… well… I’m starting to think my kids don’t really need any Christmas presents… bunch of slackers have been free-loading off me their whole lives!
@SS:
IL or anybody else. Is the new game board map identical to IL’s 3’ x 6’ map ?
Ya, I should have been a bit more clear… I know IL has an AA50 map, which was the gist of my query. Three things need to be looked at… #1: territories/borders the same or not, #2: territory values the same or not, #3: the “number assignment” of territories the same or not… ie: important if the chart says “put 3 tanks in territory 24” and if territory 24 used to be land but is now sea, that could be problematic… so all three need to be compared.
If the map is literally just a reprint of the original, than hooray, we can just use IL’s old AA50 map… but if it’s not… well I guess we all know what would need to happen next.