Subs are pretty uber. Even on defense, they cost less per HP than any other unit, and their first strike ability only amplifies that. They are most vulnerable to Fighters, but their effectiveness against Carriers offsets that.
For 24 IPCs
4 Subs: 8 Attack, 4 Defense, 4 HP
3 Destroyers: 6 Attack, 6 Defense, 3 HP
Even when attacking, Destroyers will only win that battle 55% of the time, but on defense, they win a mere 18% of the time.
Wait, another thread has more info already:
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=12942.0
However, this thread will remain for recording raw numbers.
Those from Boardgamegeek report that Axis wins most games.
This is due to the fact that excluding Russia and China, the Allies can’t reinforce Eurasia directly, instead they have to build a fleet of transports with escorts, overall costing them money and time. As a result, by the time Britain and America start getting their act together, the Axis conquers all of Eurasia, nabbing a bunch of NOs and VCs in the process.
Enough of this silly back and forth. Some people state that the Axis always win, some that the Allies always win, and some inbetween. Most likely, we are all inexperienced at this game, and are thus unable to gauge all the strategies and counters yet, especially with relatively little play.
So how about each person indicate the number of games played to completion, who won them, and whether NOs were on.
Axis N.O. Wins: 17
Allied N.O. Wins: 11
Tied N.O.: 1
Axis ?? Wins: 8
Allies ?? Wins: 4
Axis Default Wins: 12
Allied Default Wins: 2