The game is basicaly 2 separate games remember.
Also if England gave say all it’s money to pacific for even two rounds Japan would never amount to anything to keep it fair it’s split.
America is 1 country divided by two body’s of water so it’s money can be split any which way but as for England if one side falls there’s still hope and England was wageing war from both Great Britan and India.
Personally,
I’d enjoy a game with a Hypotheical Between NATO vs Warsaw Pact and actualy see how it would play out on a globel scale just as indepth how 1940 is perhaps a little more. I see lots of various variables that could make the game Interesting.Yes Axis & Allies: Cold War! with helicopters.
Absolutly also Sam sites that can hit any planes or helicopters +1 space around them etc I think it would be interesting and bring a diffrent twist. Keep the same format of how AAA is but new map some diffrent Units but yeah See how the Cold War would of heated up who would of won etc NATO vs the Warsaw Pact
@CWO:
Just as a matter of personal taste, I like the first edition map better than the second edition one (even though the second edition has better sculpts). I like the fact that the top of the map board is uncluttered instead of having a tracking chart. And the first edition Pacific map also includes Canadian map roundels, whereas the second edition doesn’t.
Yup I agree infact that’s set up
There’s absolutly nothing wrong with 2nd edition it’s up todate with the rules and set up just fine. Some people who play on line feel like one side has a little bit more so try place bids to try to make it even but honestly it’s just fine.
Also the only thing I think there really discussing is a game chart that’s not in the rule book. That players can see at all times but that’s up to you.
Personally the game is set up just fine.
Personally,
I’d enjoy a game with a Hypotheical Between NATO vs Warsaw Pact and actualy see how it would play out on a globel scale just as indepth how 1940 is perhaps a little more. I see lots of various variables that could make the game Interesting.
Correct! If the teratory say Algeria was never taken by the axis and the Americans land thee it still stays French, and thus dosnt need Liberating but if France has fallen and then a Axis power takes it an you Liberate it the teratory becomes yours until you Liberate the Capital.
Hey Cheif Warrent Officer!
Cpl Ski here!
Frankly I love this game, and the various versions that be made give the possibility of various diffrent challenges! There’s a few reasons I can think of why he wouldn’t come out with a more advance or version of this game.
For one it has to be cost effective. The mass produce a more challanging game tha will still bring the same nber of people to the game with its wide age group.
All the product development and cost in time spent for developing some diffrent units new maps and the testing to make sure it’s balanced and not rushed out so we don’t have numerous alphas to make it balanced
The difficulty factor the more involved you make a game with more units rules checks and balances the more you limit you audience and harder to sell to same number
While I’m all for a more indept game with diffrent units maps country’s objectives Etc.
I can see it being quite some time before he comes out with a Ultra Deluxe version of the game.
I haven’t seen his any good? How’s the balance?
Yeah I was counting te units up hardly any German tanks, units spred really thin, and no true neutrals so America can rush in, I only found it interesting case at a change of pace from the standees '40 set up makes it a bit more challenging since I hardly think anyone truely has a strong battle plan like they do in the '40 set up.
Has anyone tried the setup? What’s there take on it? Any pro’s? Con’s?
Anyone have a take if one side has more then the other?
So as the title says who dose anyone ever use tech rolls? If so what do you shoot for with what Country? I’d like to see what everyone’s opinion is.
I have no idea what rules or set up you guys play I play Alpha 3+ from Larry Harris not some 3rd party where some kidnaped up and posted his own Alpha 3 and also I play Table Top board game nothing Via computer. I’ll post a write up
Later as I’m off to work.
No idea where a Britsh sub comes from lol
@Uncrustable:
You also realize that in order for Italy to actually get 19 IPCs round 2 all if the axis must hold off from taking any France tts until France falls!
This includes Normandy and south France (5IPCs)
Meaning now 5 less IPCS less Germany on top of the 23 for not taking France G1IMO this strategy is so flawed it’s silly, and I’m beginning to wonder if we’re not just arguing with a couple noobs. (No offense but this has to he pointed out)
I’m sorry this guy is lost or dosnt understand how this game works basicaly my last post in this matter.
I’ve stated again I’ve played in tournaments and countless levels of expertise from novice to finalist and there’s no one clear way to win you use any advantage to win and sometimes play and use tactics that are unconventialYes Italy may loose up to 20ipcs worth of men to gain 19 from sacking France and 4 for the value of the teratory. But Endland would loose up to 50+ by stacking most of there fighters last I checked 20<50 for value correct?
England is the ultimate b���� nation in this game. I don’t care if they lose their capital, as long as they can stall Germany/Italy for any number of turns, then they’ve already done their job.
Also while yes America just sits at Gebralter that dosnt stop transports ferrying troops over and having part of the German Airforce covering France/Italy to counter any attack
How would an air force counter attack a navy West of Gibraltar? Its to far away. And if your Air force is in France, then Russia must be VERY happy right now.
All of France can fall in one Turn
'IT. CANT. FALL. TURN 1. unless Germany takes it. Or you get lucky, but luck is no substitute for a good strategy.
so I have no idea what this kid is talking about. And this is all round 1 threw 2 movements round 5 is to late to just have America
America can be West of Gibraltar turn 3. And who cares when they arrive? Italy will see it coming and realize ‘oh ����, i need to turtle’. And turtleling will NOT get Italy into Africa.
sit at Gebralter and think it’s doing anything.
It does.
The idea behind this is too flood Africa
Cant. America. Unless you want to lose Italy.
and push into Iraq ASAP.
Blows my mind how people are so short sited
Oh wow.
with just seeing things one way and just reply with America rushs
They do, its to good of an opportunity to pass up.
in lol
Anyways I’m done try it
… It’ll work and mouths will drop other wise no point arguing with inexperianced playersUncrustable’s right. No point, arguing with people who clearly don’t know what their talking about.
Once again, If Italy is going to get France, then you must choose one of the following as the Axis:
-Lose Africa
-Lose Italy
-Go on the defensive in Europe (allies win)
-Let Russia live
Maybe stick with the 41 version eh? I can’t keep explaining how eerything you’ve just wrote no matter how hard you try or think is right won’t work or is work but it’s good to know atlest people are trying
Ah no worries brother again I love to think and play outside the box big time and with Italy ofcorse it all boils down what England dose and dosnt do if that’s there moved I just advance further to alixandria if I have my 2 transports left reinforce Alexandria with 3 more men and 1 tank and wait to push turn 2 to take Egypt from 2 or 3 sides if I have my Capital ships still alive ( again depending if England sent planes to France or not depends on if my ships will live) but if they do I’ll surely have them for round 2 I’ll be able to use my Bomber battleship/cruser for
Bombardments any men from Anglo/Sudan and my force in alixandria to push into Egypt at that point.
All this can be moot or negated to what England dose or dosnt but if your playing the ((typical)) opponent then this is how and what I do
Also I for got to mention I do move some German planes at the end of G1 to Italy depending on if I decide to take southern France or not depends if I teen force southern Italy with 1 fighter and 1 tactical but that’s again depending whom I play and what I’m aiming for
I agree with you but only again it’s easy to say it now cause you know what I’m going for (your navy) it depends on the rolls again we have all had those games where no matter how impressive your attack is you still loose or win just barely my goal would be just to take the ships in 1 turn allow you to counter and then pull
My planes back you keep your Airforce and I loose 1 sub and maybe 1-2 planes this way I still clear out your navy since you didn’t scramble for the subs and the battle off Scottland I’d still pull a head since the battle ship can take two hits and pull back. But yeahat the end of the round my objective would be complete.
For me I dread when do I decide to open with Japan. There’s to many options and I like to wait for the allies to make a mistake and Capitlize off it. Some times round 2 most fifteen round 3 it all boils down to whom I’m playing and there level if experiance. And positioning
100% I agree with you about that no question but then for the other battle with the 2 Crusers and 1 battleships wouldn’t matter then cause the planes wouldn’t help tha cause but correct if you chose to scramble with 2 for the 2 subs and I knocked out just the Destroyer the transport would be alive and the planes would retreat 1 transport would hardly cause me to worry about anything this early on plus
I would probably have the other 1 or 2 subs from the previous attack later track it down but yeah were on the same page
Subs can’t hit or attack planes so yes I only need 1 hit in a destroyer to sink that since the transport can’t counter it’s gone. Plus your gonna Either scramble for that one transport to save it or for your capital ships. Also if the sub hits ither cruser can’t counter.
And again its all on the dice if I’m rolling what 1 2 3 at 3 and 3 at 4 if I manage 4 hits that sinks all the ships unless he feels it’s prudent to pick apart his Airforce
Normaly that’s my attack and most times no one scrambles cause they like to actualy have England play and do something othe wise both navy and Airforce is decamated but that’s how I normaly clear it out I meen there’s some small
Things I can move around not much but basicaly
It
I use 2 subs normaly win it
For the record, I am not among those saying that I leaving Paris for Italy is always a bad idea. I am just skeptical about some of your related discussion.
For example:
@Whitshadw:For one it’s safe to say that anyone playing as Germany will Clear out the Atlantic as best you can. I personally like to clear out the two destroyers and transports as manditory, and the English Channel and off Scotland.
This quote makes it sound like you attack all four of the following Sea Zones: SZ106, SZ109, SZ110, and SZ111 on G1.
Is that what you intended to indicate?
allways with 2 subs each at sea zone 106 and 109 in 110 I use 1 sub and 3/4 the weight of the German Airforce and in 112 1 battleship 2 bombers 1 fighter and 1 tactical bomber completly clears out the Atlantic minus the Americans and 91
If England chooses to scramble it further helps my resolve that then they can’t support France later for Italy or if the scramble for 109 dosnt matter all I need is 1 hit and I will sink both ships
