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      Biggest german mistake

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      Imperious LeaderI

      Hitler should have just stopped the war after May 1941 and just fight UK and take her colonies and use his pact with Stalin to co-capture the Middle-East and finish off India. After 10 years of consolidation of capturing most of Europe and finishing off UK, invade the Soviet Union with the full enjoyment of all the jet fighters, super heavy tanks and greater war making capacity.

      So i guess invading Soviet Union was the worst mistake and not using them as true allies until you didn’t need them anymore and causing a two front war.

      Hitler should break any military treaty with Japan and try to 5th column USA with sympathizers to keep US neutrality.

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      DOW question

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      yeah, its my mistake. the rulebook says that the US gets their 40 ipc boost in the turn after a japanse attack on a allied territory. China is not included

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      French indochina

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      Thanks krieghund!  :lol:

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      New not historical axis and allies game

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      Well, if we have a Cold War game, then how about after the USA and USSR nuke everything we have a new game of “Rise of the Machines”, humanity struggles to survive against the Terminators.

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      Major power commander

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      @ABWorsham:

      @KurtGodel7:

      The initial invasion would deal the Soviets a hammer blow, and German strength would mean that there would not be the opportunity for them to recover. The German war machine would push eastward like a steamroller, destroying all resistance in its path.

      You still have the problem in Russia of attacking with a Mechanized force across extreme conditions- little to no road systems, rivers, swamps, forest and fighting an enemy that will leave stronghold behind to be dealt with.

      You will be asking your men to fight a battle with no chance chance of a quick victory. There are no vital targets, no death blows targets the first 400 miles inside Russia. Your army will have to fight an epic battle, near Moscow, with a 800 mile supply line; facing an enemy that is getting supplied a few miles away. That’s risking a lot.

      Your post is absolutely correct. There can be no argument that conquering the Soviet Union would have been a gargantuan task. You’re right about the terrain, the length of the supply lines, and the implication that the required battles would be of epic proportions. In addition, the Soviets an overwhelming numerical advantage in available infantry. My impression is that the Soviet numerical advantage was 3:1 over the Germans, but declined to 2:1 after taking into account the Romanians, Hungarians, Finns, Italians, and anti-communist Soviet citizens who fought alongside German soldiers on Germany’s Eastern Front during WWII.

      In the historical war, Germany lacked oil. As a consequence, its supply lines had to be largely oil-free. Coal-powered trains would deliver supplies most of the way to the front, and horses would take them the rest of the way to where they were needed. This transportation method can work well during a relatively static war, but is inadequate for the kind of mobile war necessary to conquer the Soviet Union. During the invasion of the Soviet Union some gasoline-powered transportation was available to supplement the horse and coal method. But this supply delivery mechanism was wholly inadequate because of Germany’s lack of oil. Germany’s inability to adequately supply its troops was why its soldiers often lacked winter uniforms during the winter of '41 - '42.

      In the scenario I outlined, Germany would have control of the Persian oilfields for several years leading up to the invasion. That oil would allow military trucks to play a much greater role in supplying Germany’s soldiers than had been the case in the actual war. I realize this supply effort would become less effective in fall (muddy roads) and winter (freezing engines). Even so, this would still represent a dramatic improvement over the supply situation Germany faced in the historical war.

      I envision the Soviets’ quantitative advantage being offset in three ways.

      By outproducing them. Germany experienced a nearly threefold increase in its aircraft production between 1942 and 1944. My scenario envisions putting this kind of efficient production into effect several years before the invasion of the Soviet Union.

      Largely offset the Soviets’ quantitative advantage in available infantry. Even if some group of foreign recruits proved one fifth or one tenth as effective as Germans on a man-for-man basis, it would still be better than nothing. And if, due to poor motivation or lack of discipline, foreign soldiers proved relatively ineffective, that problem could be solved through sheer numbers. A large non-German force invading northward from Persia could tie down a significant amount of the Red Army’s strength; and indeed could kill or capture a large number of Soviet soldiers. While the main hammer blow would be the German Army attacking from the west, it would be logical to create as many problems for the Soviet Army as possible.

      By building a qualitative advantage over them. On a man-for-man basis, Germany’s infantry were about three times as combat effective as their Soviet counterparts (see http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/pdf/e-4epw1and2final.pdf ). But for most of the war, Soviet soldiers were, on average, as well or better armed than their German counterparts. That problem could be solved by the assault rifle. It was introduced late in the war, and in very small numbers. It proved exceptionally effective at allowing German soldiers to mow down their Soviet counterparts. The improved supply situation (Persian oil) and manufacturing situation means that German infantry and artillery would have plenty of ammunition.

      By far the best handheld anti-tank weapon of WWII was the Panzerfaust. The first version of the Panzerfaust could penetrate the frontal armor of any widely deployed Allied tank, but only had a range of 30 meters. That range was soon doubled to 60 meters. By 1945, Germany had deployed a few Panzerfausts with a range of 150 meters, and with a better sighting mechanism and even better armor penetration than their predecessors. Germany was in the process of developing a Panzerfaust with a 250 meter range when the war ended. Had the invasion of the Soviet Union taken place in 1947 or '48, the Panzerfaust 250 could have been put into widespread deployment, making German infantry devastating against Soviet tanks.

      Another important aspect of the qualitative situation involves tanks. The T-34 was an exceptional tank by the standards of 1941. But by 1944, even the upgraded version (T-34-85) was getting long in the tooth. In the Korean War, it had become clear that the T-34-85 was obsolete in competitions against the tanks Britain and the U.S. had begun deploying in 1945 and '46. In subsequent Arab-Israeli conflicts, T-44/54 model tanks would also prove highly ineffective/obsolete against very early postwar British and American tanks.

      This is where the Entwicklung Series (E-Series) tanks could have been immensely valuable to Germany. Just as Panthers were qualitatively superior to T-34-85s, the E-50 would have been qualitatively superior to the T-44/54. The E-Series was designed to be much more easily manufactured and more mechanically reliable than its predecessors. Instead of a handful of Panthers against a horde of T-34-85s, it would have been a very large number of E-50s against those T-34-85s! Additionally, the E-50 would have been a better tank than the Panther or Tiger I, and the E-75 would have been superior to the Tiger II. Panthers and Tigers were often lost to mechanical problems or lack of fuel rather than enemy action. But with the increased mechanical reliability of the E-Series, and with the Persian Oil, German tanks would become much less likely to be lost to such causes.

      The Soviet Union did not develop jet engines during WWII. In 1946, Stalin was able to license jet technology from a pro-Soviet British Labour government. That technology was then put to use in the Korean War; where the MiG proved an effective aircraft.

      During the Korean War, the democracies’ most effective jet fighter was the F-86 Sabre. It would not be too much of an exaggeration to call the Sabre a knockoff of the Me 262, except with better engines. The Germans had begun using Me 262s in combat in 1944; and had already begun work on designing their next generation of jet aircraft. Had that next generation been deployed in the Korean War, both the Soviets’ and democracies’ aircraft would have been obsolete in comparison.

      Had the German invasion of the Soviet Union occurred around 1947 or '48, German aircraft would have had a commanding qualitative edge over their Soviet counterparts, even if the Soviets had been able to license jet technology.

      Not only were German air designs more advanced than their Allied counterparts. Late in WWII, Germany began developing advanced air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles. Waiting until 1947 or '48 to invade would have given Germany the chance to refine these designs and to put them into widespread deployment. Germany would have controlled the skies above the battlefield. It would have used that control to destroy Soviet tanks and artillery, to strafe retreating columns of Soviet soldiers, to take out bridges and trains, and generally to wreak havoc.

      While the Soviet military’s strength was immense, not even they could have withstood an onslaught such as this.

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      Radar stations

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      I’d use the silver derricks for oil and gold for Radar towers. But for me i like just the derricks for oil only. using them in all my games from now on.

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      Strict neutrals

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      @Warplayer12:

      My house rule is simple: if someone invades a strict neutral, then the other strict neutrals are not pro-allies or axis. BTW: sweden is in the game strict neutral, but they give iron ore to the germans.

      Sweden sold Iron Ore to the Germans, Ball Bearings to both sides, licensed the Bofors gun to the US and the UK, supplied the Allies with a V-2 that landed in Swedish territory, and sold spare aircraft engine parts to Finland for US and UK aircraft that were operated by Finland with the tacit approval of the US and UK.  In my house rules for the original Europe game, Sweden has 3 IPC that go to whoever controls Norway, while remaining neutral.

      I am working on a set of rules using the Political Action Cards of the first Attack Expansion to influence neutrals one way or the other, with Turkey being the main neutral that I was thinking of, along with Thailand, and possibly Spain.

      I do like the idea of grouping the neutrals into geographic blocks, as they would be most interested in intervention by one side or the other near them.  However, Brazil entered the war in August of 1942 on the side of the Allies, and the US was using Brazilian air fields for Trans-Atlantic aircraft delivery to the UK in the Middle East prior to 1942, so I am putting that in the Allied camp as soon as the US is in the war.

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      New axis and allies game

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      @Tall:

      Axistiger13,

      Thanks for the info.  That will certainly be useful.

      “Tall Paul”  :

      You are welcome!

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      British expeditionary force

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      Thanks!

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      Vichy france

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      Deaths Head 420D

      He was made the Villian because he made 1 statement (pro Nazi) that got printed in french Newspaper. I don’t remember exactly the headline but, it stated something along the lines “Here’s to a Nazi victory” or something like that. and thats what screwed him during Nurnberg trials

      Petain actually helped his people, choosing to send them as labor to Germany vs Fielding French fighting Units for Germany. He chose work over bloodshed for his people in his mind. He had No Idea germany wouldnt return said workers AT the agreed time.

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      New futuristic idea

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      @Warplayer12:

      i was reading the newspaper, en then i get an idea: a continental war. Every continent (Europe, Asia,Africa etc.) gets their own army and fight each other

      You could get the Attack and Attack Expansion game from Eagle Games and use that for your map and forces.  You have infantry, tanks, artillery, aircraft, battleships, aircraft carriers, destroyers, and submarines.  The combat system works considerably differently from A&A, and depending on whether you use the basic games rules or the Deluxe Expansion rules, production points work differently too, along with tech development.  I prefer the original Attack Expansion, and I am running a game using a mixture of the basic game, original Expansion, and the Deluxe expansion.  Works pretty well.

      And Australia in not one territory but 5.

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      Buying extra pieces on HBG.com

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      Yeah, i looked at the site and i saw everything Thanks everyone  :-D :-D

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      Naval base question

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      Thanks krieghund!

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