Posts made by Variable

I plan to merge the rules and pieces from both games to fix this problem.

@kcdzim:

Is FMG making china sculpts?  Perhaps we’ll get a P40 anyway….  hmmmmmmmmm.

I think they should! Here’s a vote for it. That way it increases the odds of a P-51 or F4U for US (or both :-D)

A-26

B-17

B-29

B-24

B-25

B-26

P-51

F4U

P-40

P-47

@reloader-1:

The only problem with that, Variable, is that the US is the only country in A&A that has already had 2 unique nation-specific fighters molded for it, in the F6F and the P-38. (I am ignoring Germany - the JU-87 is NOT a fighter!)

The problem would be that other nations would now have 2 fighter pieces (OOB and FMG), and the US would have 4!(2x OOB and 2x FMG) A bit much, eh?

After further consideration, I wanted to respond to this again.

There are only two countries in the game that are FULLY involved in both theaters of war, the US and the UK. The UK got a whole separate power and color with the ANZAC pieces. If we’re looking at all the game pieces together, there are also some very light tan ones from D-Day, plus the mint green ones from Pacific 41, I use for my Canadians or Indians. The US deserves more sculpts because of its global involvement. They built specific weapons depending on what theater of war they were used in since the conditions were so different.

What do you guys think? I’d give up something to have an extra fighter sculpt for the US.

@kcdzim:

@Variable:

Any other suggestions?

Just an FYI, The A-26 Invader is not the same as the B-26 Marauder.  Both would be appropriate as a tac bomber, but they aren’t the same plane.

Updated. Thanks for the correction!

Any other suggestions?

I put up a poll for everyone to vote.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=17858.0

I know the P-40 saw plenty of production and action, but I just don’t feel it’s “iconic” outside of its use in China. I’m still voting for P-51 or F4U.

@reloader-1:

The only problem with that, Variable, is that the US is the only country in A&A that has already had 2 unique nation-specific fighters molded for it, in the F6F and the P-38. (I am ignoring Germany - the JU-87 is NOT a fighter!)

The problem would be that other nations would now have 2 fighter pieces (OOB and FMG), and the US would have 4!(2x OOB and 2x FMG) A bit much, eh?

I know, and I agree with you. It was a greedy pipe dream. I’d be happy with either the Corsair or P-51 for the new fighter. Either one would allow me to use the P-38 as the LR Fighter. That said, the B-29 can be the new LR Strat bomber if FMG uses that one. Now we just need to figure out what the best Tac bomber would be. We have a carrier based one so its still between all the 20 series bombers…

Come on FMG, is there no way we can get the F4U and P-51D? I’d still want them both as fighters though. Still holding out for the B-24 or B-25 for Tacs with B-29 on LR Strategic duty.

@reloader-1:

Variable - I like your options, but I would send the F4U to the back of the pack. Take a look:

Pretty similar, eh?

I agree, they are similar, especially at the scale we use. But, I think the wings would be different enough and, well, I really want Corsairs.

Plus, here is some more reasoning. We already have a “land based” fighter (P-38), and a “carrier based” fighter (F6F), so we should choose what would be more useful for the US. Here are two arguments:

I generally use more US air in the pacific than in europe so I would like another carrier fighter or a land fighter that was used in the pacific. My preference here is the Corsair. It’s iconic and multi-roled.

But, if we got P-51s to replace P-38s for the “land based” fighter (mainly for Europe), we could use our P-38s for long-range fighters. This also helps the argument for making the B-29.

There is a third solution. FMG could make 2 US fighter moulds.  :-D 8-)

Also, found this site to be a great resource this morning:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/world-war-2-aircraft.asp

OK you guys, now I feel like an idiot. I thought the tac we had was a corsair because of the wings. I thought it was a little bit of an odd choice for this role, and a bit out of scale, but I figured WOTC was going for recognizable molds. After this discussion, I went to good old Wiki and discovered the Tacs are, in fact, SBDs. Definitely not Avengers, wings are totally different.

So for the fighters, I must change my opinion. Now that we have P-38s and F6Fs already, I would be happy with the F4U or P-51 simply because the P-47 does look too similar to the F6F. I would be happy with a P-40 I guess as well.

So order of preference here: F4U (small enough to not confuse me on the SBD/Corsair thing again  :-D), P-51, P-40

For the Tacs then, since we have the SBD for carrier based stuff, we should go with the B-24 or B-25, which would follow suit with the British molds.

Assuming we do the above, that would leave room for the B-29 as the new bomber to compliment the existing B-17s. Of course, now I will need a separate tackle box just for US aircraft but so what…

Okay, I have started the typing project on this. For now, it will be a plain white background until I can insert something “pretty”. To start, I’m typing the Pac40 book verbatum with all the new errata included where appropriate. At least we’ll have an “updated Pac40 book” to start with. I would also like to include a popular “house rule” section at the end. Let’s work on a list most of like and I’ll put that in too.

Put it on mediafire, then link it here. That’s what I do. It will even thumbnail the pic in the post for you.

@allworkandnoclay:

I’ve toyed with the idea of doing 1/2 P-38s and 1/2 Hellcats… Not sure yet. Don’t want them to look too similar to UK and ANZAC units. We’ll see - that hurdle is a few weeks off.

Paint the Hellcats Navy Blue like the Corsairs. Should distinguish them from the Brits.

I have a PILE of B-17s, but I do agree with AllWork, that crappy ones next to yours would be a bit off.

I have always wanted B-25s. What if we used this as the U.S. Tactical Bomber? Would that be inappropriate? I just wanted to put one on carrier… :-D

I agree the B-24 looks a lot like the Halifax, but it will be in green instead of tan. For those painting them, what color were Halifax Bombers? I think the iconic US version was unpainted like Brain’s pic.

Finally, the B-29. I’m very mixed on this one. I really want them because of the popularity. But a few problems arise. First, they would be huge, like the Soviet bombers, but the US doesn’t have room on the map for that like the Russians do. Second, I always thought if this as a tech piece for LR Bombers. Ugh, so conflicted…

I guess my order of preference would be: B-25, B-24, B-17, then B-29 (only because I’m conflicted on this one).