Posts made by Vareel

@maverick_76:

I think that you just make the IPC value reflect the oil. Keep it simple and make the game more competitive by making the Middle East and Africa (especially Egypt with the Suez Canal) a vital IPC and convoy zone, forcing the Italians to want to focus on that. Also throw in some NO’s and that can pretty much eliminate the can opener, trust me.

No it will not, the can opener only requires 1 plane in range, it is more powerful the more units you add, but it only requires 1 plane and then you must defend against it.

I highly doubt Russia would have been easy to occupy, there would have been insurgents all over the place still fighting.  The US would just be dropping a nuke on Berlin before they did it to Japan if Russia would have crumbled, but once again I do not feel loosing moscow would have been the complete defeat of Russia that the axis though it would have been.

@Raeder:

Evacuating Italy from Africa? Is that really a viable strategy? Even if it helps the Germans a lot on the eastern front, doesn’t it allow the allies to roam free in North Africa? But then on the other hand, I guess that if it helps Germany take Moscow faster, it may be worth it.

It only takes 2 units plus a plane to can opener, even less if you want to go risky.

They should start at 30, go to 40 from france, cap out around 50-60 depending on gains in Russia.

Italy should be at about in the teens, top out in the 20s depending on gains in Africa.

You gotta keep in mind, these guys will be faced with a 50+ IPC US monster they cannot threaten in the least, not to mention the 30ish IPC UK and Russia.

@Whackamatt:

Wow, somebody is not used to thinking, or allowing others to work out their ideas on these boards.  I looked over the first several pages and decided to just post again.  If these kinds of posts are getting “old” for you, then please stop replying to them.

But I landed many Bombers and Fighters on Kwangsi.  The Bombers destroy the lone boat in 42, and the Fighters take out the lone boat in 37, allowing my transports free access to whatever.

So how exactly would the America player slip past my Caroline fleet in timely manner?  If they did try to go around Australia, wouldn’t the Japanese player see that coming and be able to break off the appropriate amount of ships to deal with them?

Perhaps this conversation is old because you yourself keep posting about it.  Isn’t that your post about the economics of a J1 attack just 2 days ago?  Not that subject again!

And I doubt you’ve seen the last of someone’s J1 attack plan.  Please try and refrain from being a condescending prick for the next guy.

Bazinga, indeed.

Ok I have no problem with people thinking and what not, and you are the one who came here acting like a condenscending prick to begin with so I responded in kind.  As far as my post on the subject I examined the actual direct income change that a J1 can present to see its true value, and I found it lacking.  I did not post some ‘here is my J1 all you people who don’t attack on J1 suck’ thread.

Now for your ‘plan’.  Just because you kill those boats does NOT mean you get to go to SZ 41 during your combat move, which means you do NOT get all of DEI turn two.

As for US getting there, turn 1 move to pearl purchase 1 trans/1 DD.  Turn 2 move to SZ54 or to SZ 63 if your worried about japan’s fleet at carolines and land planes on New Zealand.  Along with moving your purchased DD/trans to SZ 51 and dropping your brand new destroyers and another transport.  With this setup the fleet at Carolines is outta range of your reinforcements.

@Whackamatt:

So when you do a J2 or J3 attack on Hawaii, how do you back up the Chinese mainland?  Do you use minor factories, or transport some troops to the mainland for a turn or two before you attack and then let them be?

And how much of a problem does the UK fleet around India become?  Do you break off something small just for them, or are you willing to sacrifice planes?  With two transports Japan would have to be careful not to let them get somewhere vital.  Or will UK be too wrapped up with China to even think about moving stuff out of India.

Build factories, you don’t have a choice in that matter.  As far as the UK fleet it dies when pearl dies, that is why i place a fleet in the middle of DEI with bombers in Siam, they can hit anywhere.

Microsoft and Intel

Only thing I can say for sure is there are not enough SZs between US and UK, larry said it would take 2 turns for US planes to get there and they would have to stop in Greenland or Iceland on there way I believe.  Other than that Russia is huge! lol.

@maverick_76:

So that is awesome that we now know what the order is, I don’t really see a problem with the can opener, I bet there will be NO’s for Italy to want to take Africa and the Middle East from Britain and France. Remember Mussolini always wanted a Roman empire to rival that of the ancients. And I bet a VC just might be in the Middle East, or if not, then Stalingrad. Something tells me that Italy will really want to move into Africa.

Man, it only takes a few planes and/or 1 tank, or now mech inf, in range to threaten a can opener.  Once you can threaten it then your opponent must make terrible trades in deadzones because of that threat.  It ruins '41 in aa50!  Just try playing aa50 '41 with a gentleman’s agreement that Italy is not allowed to can opener and see how much better it would play out on the G/R border.

Oh I am without a doubt, not the best allied player out there.  But I’m sure with a larger pool of players the better allied strats will begin to surface.

@MaherC:

let’s hope.  pac40 isn’t worth the time to setup just to see the allied player go….hmmmm for an hour and quit.

Sounds like you need a better allied player  :-D

Pearl go boom on J2

details
2 ACs SZ 31
atleast 4 planes left at japan + 2 bombers
1 BB, 2 DD, 1 SS at carolines

1 DD, 1 Cru, 1 SS SZ 36 /w 2 transports
2 bombers in Siam
1 AC, 1 BB, 1 Cru, 1 DD, 1 transport SZ 42

Purchase: 2 transports, 2 subs

Only boats exposed are the ones in SZ 42, and while the UK could attack them with ANZAC follow up, it wouldn’t be a good idea.  They would loose most of there planes and they would have to land on Java, which you could hit from SZ 36 plus your Siam bombers.

If you see any big downsides let me know.

Wow these threads are getting old.

First off, you would send a sub to kill the transport at Pearl, else your getting a US scramble and loosing a bomber.

Secondly, you will not be getting all of the DEI area on J2 as the UK can move 2 boats to SZ 37 & 42 to block off Sum, which just happens to be in range of 6 allied planes that can land on it turn 1, up to 7 more on turn 2 (not saying they should, just saying they could).

Third, you best be getting a mainland factory on J2 unless you want china to stay alive for a good long time.  And you best hope the UK player doesn’t help china by stacking the daylights out of Yunnan on UK2.

Fourth, and the worst, on J3 you will be able to take all of the DEI, the problem is on US3 there starting fleet can hit DEI as well.  Now they may have to sacrifice a transport to take an island, but, you’ll be trading down there for the remainder of the game.  Then it becomes a race, take out India before the US takes over the DEI, or you loose your income advantage that you never really had.

Fifth, and last, is this not the same J1 i’ve seen posted several times by Maher C and originally by Frontovik?  Oh no, his was better.  He used planes against ANZAC so he didn’t expose any boats.  And he knew to send a sub to Pearl.

Oh i’m not saying you have to attack hawawi, nor that you should try to take it.  But it is a good idea I feel to send the US fleet at pearl to the bottom of the ocean.  The way I do that is with 2 carriers parked in SZ 31 with some extra boats to add to the attack, like a BB, pair of DDs, pair of subs, and keep a bomber or two in range, along with a purchased sub or 2.  Just 2 carriers alone in SZ 31 bring 8 planes into the fight allowing for 24 punch and 8 or 12 hits if you bring the carriers.  Add to that a pair of bombers, 2 DDs and a BB and you got 40 punch with 6 more hits.  And thats not counting the purchased units or the pair of subs you can position there if you want.  That still leaves you with a carrier, a battleship, 2 DDs, 2 Cru, and 15 planes for the DEI area.  Now I do sacrifice my transports to take DEI islands in the end, but I feel it is worth it.  If the US cannot be at Pearl on US2, or is sunk there, the earliest turn they can get to the DEI area with a significant force would be on US 5.

@Hobbes:

The thing is that with a J2 attack, the US Navy and Air Force can move to Hawaii at US1 and J will have a major threat coming from that direction. And the US/UK/ANZAC can move their DDs to block any attacks against Sumatra or Java, while taking both islands. J might have to choose between going after the US fleet or taking both islands.

Why?  When you start with 3 carriers and a ton of other boats atleast for the first few turns your only limitation is your transport capacity and allied blocks.

Yes and no, you just have to setup next door the turn before your sneak attack is all.

UK/France will be like China is in aa40p
Russia will be like UN/ANAZAC is in aa40p
US will be like the US is in aa40p

Thats my guess anyway.  Still have no clue what will draw the US in early though.

I love a J2 attack personally.  I station bombers in Siam to strike any location the allied boats may try to hide.  I also put a few boats down in that are like the caroline fleet to SZ 42, or just a destroyer or a carrier.  It also lets you send a carrier or two to SZ 31 to threaten a Pearl strike on J2.

You have much better positioning on J2, with a proper J2 you can sink ALL UK boats and retake any DEI islands the UK takes.  Along with that you can start your convoy raids on the UK, and you still get to initial kick on China and positioning J1/2.  And you can threaten to hit Pearl with a large quantity of planes if you want, allowing you to either set the US back another turn or take Pearl heavy.  On J3 you have all of DEI, china is hurt, and the US is the only power with a boat in the sea other than yourself.

Ok time for the detailed explanation.

When you declare any move during your combat move phase that will result in a state of war, you are considered at war.  All of your moves must be legal assuming you were at war at the beginning of the turn.

This would have been alot simpler if it was as follows:

At the beginning of your turn you must decide to declare war or not to declare.  If you declare then you may make combat moves as you normal would when at war.  If you don’t declare then you cannot do anything that would start a war.

Would have the same effect, so just treat it like that.

Ok a couple of notes.  First off I personally prefer a J2 attack myself as you can still smash almost all of the allied starting units that you could have on J1.  I see a J3 attack as being too late, as the allies income gets a bit too high for my taste if you let them get all of DEI.

And Hobbes, the UK could get another 4 IPC island, or as I stated and assumed they did, they can grab the ANZAC NO island.  Its only 1 more IPC but I wanted to see the maximum possible swing.