Topics created by Upside-down_Turtle

The problem now adays is that people just don’t have the stomach for war like they used to.

The rule used to be, pre-1800, that either a city under attack surrendered and chose to raise the flag of the aggressor,  thereby not being seiged, raped, and pilliaged.

Or,

The city resisted, and you seiged it, raped, pilliaged, occupied, and raised your flag thier.

Lastly, whilst most empires expanded the rule aslo was if you wanted the land for yourself, you came in, killed everyone who had a claim to the territory, and took it as your own.

In modern terms however, we invade countires, briefly change their governments, piss everyone off who lives there, pay to rebuild their infrastructure, and then given the country back to the people we’ve made angry - after we’ve trained them to defend themselves.

@JohnConnor12:

autobot for megan fox…

You know transformers were around before 2007.

I knew this was going to be Monty Python, but figured it would be from “And Now for Something Completely Different”.

@calvinhobbesliker:

When you download it(have you?), it’s supposed to be its own program

I know, but something went wrong and the map files are also not saving right, like my laptop is the real douche.

While I rather like the idea, India is basically a power. But upside down turtle fmg is not even done  Italy.

@balungaloaf:

without US aid assistance via lend lease, without the allied strategic bombing campaign tying up much of the luftwaffe and anti air defenses, and without the threat of invasion keeping millions of german soldiers in europe, the soviets would have been smashed before they could ever set up a counter attack.  if moscow was taken, the people would give up on their communist overlords and capitulate.

You alluded to the pressure the U.S. and Britain put on Germany; and I fully agree that pressure was immense. Even in 1940–before the U.S. was technically at war–its industrial production created profound implications for the balance of power in Europe. With massive numbers of American aircraft being produced and sent to Britain, Germany had to either a) find a way to keep pace, industrially, with the U.S. and Britain combined, or b) watch its cities and people be destroyed by waves of British and American bombers. The invasion of the Soviet Union was largely precipitated by the desire to allow Germany to attain the raw materials and industrial capacity to achieve outcome A.

However, keeping pace with the production capacity of the U.S. and Britain also required Germany to invest heavily in its own production facilities. That investment diverted effort from what would have been immediately useful production against the Soviet Union. During 1942, the Soviets out-produced the Germans 3:1 or even 4:1 in all major land categories of production, and even out-produced the Germans 2:1 in planes.

Prior to launching Operation Barbarossa, the German military staff had incorrectly believed that the Soviet Army consisted of 200 divisions. Divisions which had fought very poorly in the Soviets’ 1940 invasion of Finland. In the spring of 1941, the German Army consisted of 150 divisions; 100 of which were used for the invasion of the Soviet Union. But in the months after the invasion, the Soviets were quickly able to expand the size of their army to about 600 divisions. Given the imbalance of sheer numbers, it is very unlikely Germany could have prevailed in a war against the Soviet Union even despite its military’s advantage on a man-for-man basis.

Word would have spread and every Indian with an ‘itch’ of nationalism would have rebelled. Japan would also watch this event with excitment.

:lol: I bet it’s even funner if you know German (which is on my “To-Do List”, btw).  It’s probably like watching Monty Python and The Holy Grail with Subtitles for People Who Don’t Like the Film (taken from Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part II).  :-P  :lol:

Cool!!!  Wow, I wonder what kind of damage the Abrams could do going that fast!!!

@Upside-down_Turtle:

Yeah, I saw that show.  It’s partially what inspired this thread.

Tom Clancy said the Abrams can go 70+mph w/o a governor.  Is that really true?  It’s a lot higher than the “official” stats.

Man, 70+ tons going 70+mph…that’s a load going fast!  It’s faster than the Leopard’s “official” top speed.  However, it’s suposidly ad risk of destroying the drive train, but if that’s true, couldn’t you just somehow make it stronger?  I’m no mechanic, but I’m sure it could be done.

A 70 mph tank would kick @$$!  :-D

:-P dude, i did it twice  :-P

Actually, Upside-down_Turtle comes from my early Star Craft days.  Basically, in a 3v2 game, I’d be the odd man out as Terran and essentially be a non factor.  I’d maybe get off an expand or two, but eventually “turtle up” and suck all my minerals dry.  Then I basically pray my buddies won the huge battle I had no part in.  Otherwise, I was easy pickings.

Best run I had was as the zerg.  Captured, like, ten minneral fields in the middle of the map.  Problem was, no one could attack anyone else unless they went through me.  It was like a giant Hydralisk meat grinder.    :-P They kicked me out eventually, but it was a good run.  8-)

Oh yeah, and I almost killed someone with a Zelot rush  :-D

That settles it, I’m Googling Star Craft II videos…

I want to know what else keeps the game exciting the first few rounds besides the sino-japanese war.

Like what kind of options do the allies have to interfere with Japanese expansion early in the game?

All I know is that I’m heading over to Larry Harris forum to get my $.02 in.

I’ve only seen these in WWI A&A variants.  How would they work?  Is it a viable unit in A&A, or just a waist of plastic?

That’s right!

1 mine per turn. That’s it.
If your mine sink a ship, its removed from the gameboard.

You cannot put a mine a sea zone if you’re not at war

@crusaderiv:

Well heavy artillery for me means katyusha rockets,nebelwefer and 155mm long tom.
heavy artillery attack and defend on 3. May choose is target in the first round fo combat.

that just seems like another way to do regulare artillery.

And I agree I would rather have a rocket artillery unit than siege guns, but i think rocket artillery would have a more offenisve nature, not just generaly good.

:wink:

MY buddy and I tried out landmines  on Monday. We made them 5 IPC, covered one border, and basically acted the same way AA guns do, but for land unites. If territory was captured mines are destroyed.  Found out these make USSR a bit to powerful, however they did come in handy for Italy as well.

Well for me, heavy infantry means Panzergrenadier, SS division & Russian shock army.

cost = 4
att = 1 (attack at 2 in the first round of combat)
def = 2 (defend at 3 in the first round fo combat)
move = 1

Here’s our WAW rules.

Mechanized infantry=

Move 2 (units can retreat after one round of combat).
att = 2
def= 2
Cost = 4

(Japan,france and China cannot produce mechanized infantry).