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The war was lost in the winter of 41, and Hitler knew it.  That’s when the Holocaust started, and when he started saying things like “If the German people aren’t strong enough, then they deserve to perish from the Earth!”  or something like that.

He was going down, and he was taking as many people with him as he could.

Still, on the topic of strategy, I’d withdraw across the river and regroup.  Logistics was a problem for both the Russian and North African fronts.  A link-up w/ Rommel would be great, though just having him on the eastern front I’m sure would have done wonders.  The man was a genius.  Forget my opinion, get Rommel.

http://aaminis.myfastforum.org/about5369.html&highlight=soviet

check out this page.  I forget who posted it, but it was posted in the thread on new A&A pieces.

check out the Russian carrier design just above the word Italy.  It’s a CV with 406mm guns!!!  :-o A lot of the Italian carriers are crazy, too.  These are brilliant designs.  If the carrier wasn’t obsolete from a military point of view, I’d say the US ought to build one.

@FieldMarshalGames:

(Back from vacation and well rested….  Back to work)

I understood going into this that it would be impossible to make EVERYONE 100% happy but I am sure the final product will be acceptable to everyone.

So far we are resolved on the following:

The colors with match the COMBAT DICE

The number of the units for each nation will be the same (no cheaping out on some)  Each nation will have around 200 units so they can be used for ANY AAA game or varient aswell as other WW2 games.

The quality and detail of the units will be far superior to ANYTHING that has been released to date.

We are going to to make TWO sculpts for INF and ARM for each nation.  They will be the same color but will give the game a great look OR can be used for varient rules etc…

As for Naval units and Air units we will stick with the ICONIC types.  (I think we will do the Hurricane for UK as this is more historiclay acurate)

The bases will fit on AAA chips with the same rounded base type

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If this goes off well we will continue with the line and do FRENCH, ANZAC, CANADIAN, POLISH, SPANISH, TURKISH and other types.  But to start we will do the SIX nations in AA50.

We are working on all six of the moulds concurently but the first off the production line will be the ITALIANS.  These will be shipped to all those who have pre-orders so you have something to show for your investment as soon as possible.  I hope the release of the ITALIANS will show the quality of the product and increase the interest thus making it alot easier to fund the entire set. (without having to morgage my house  :|)

More details on the final set and pre-order information will follow soon.

Thanks

Jeremy

Oh my g…… :-o You guys are awesome!!!  :lol: Man, I’m so late on reading this thread.  :-P

We are going to to make TWO sculpts for INF and ARM for each nation.

If it weren’t against the First Commandment, I’d worship you guys!  Man, and I thought the dice were cool.  Don’t get me wrong.  They are, but man! :-o

@RogertheShrubber:

Interesting side note about the Enterprise, during the Battle of Santa Cruz, the radar tower was badly damaged, so an engineer went up there to repair and restore juice to it. They forgot to cut the power to the tower while he was up there working, when he repaired the tower and bridged the power to the tower it started spinning while he was hanging up there.  With enemy Vals and Zeros dropping bombs on the Enterprise, he spun up there for a good 20 minutes unaware by the captain.  When they finally  realized they had a man on the tower they cut the juice and got him down.  Talk about a horrifying experience!

:-o…poor soul…

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They couldn’t run axis and allies through a spell check?  There should be a recall just for that.  When they send us the new game, they ought to throw in some decent plastic pieces, too.  Some P-38’s would be nice, please.  No marshaling or task force cards?  Man, what a waste of a $100.

I agree with giving Italy two infantry in Italian East Africa, if you were to adapt the idea to AA50.  5 IPC transport planes carrying 1 infantry is interesting.  Wasn’t that considered for AA Advanced?…or was it Deluxe.

I think it was probably meant for the AA50 board, so I can’t imagine an 80 IPC US.  Maybe we should design our own 1939 scenario.  You can download a 39 scenario for AA Classic from this thread: http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=14068.0;topicseen
Sorry, I forget which download.  It was printed in Battleplan Magazine in the 80s.  I don’t agree with the scenario completely.  I think each side has too much stuff, though I agree with UK player having control over France.  There are several A&A variants in the one issue, all compliments of Imperious Leader.

@Historybuff:

I’d say the destroyer.

Which one?

Welcome to the Forum, Pan.  :-)

The most incredible ideas…made my hair stand up in the back of my neck…

Yeah, same here.  One rule that freaked me out was a the Russian National Trait artillery bombardment on a 1 for every 2 units.  Of course, they didn’t have artillery pieces back then.  On several occasions when playing A&A with friends and family who have never played before, they ask if artillery can perform an opening bombardment.  I say, “No”, to which they respond, “oh,  :-( well that’s dumb.  It totally should.  :x”  I had been considering a House Rule that would allow artillery to bombard on a 1 during the opening fire stage of combat.  :-o Twilight Zone…or do great minds think alike?

btw, I can’t give out karma yet, so here’s an IOU.  +1

oh…it’s the name of the tread… :oops:

btw, what’s the name of the magazine?

dude, Imperious Leader is already a legend.  :-D

In the AA50 Rulebook, Larry Harris cites three problems with a 1939 scenario:

1. The game would automatically be much longer to play.

2. The Unites States would not participate in the Game for the first three of four turns.

3. The game would suffer from a rather slow and predictable start.

This, and several other issues, would prove to be too problematic from a game point of view.

As many of you have said, the fact that all the powers start with much fewer units is a problem, yet there are also other obvious ones.  It’s these notorious “other issues” I’m curious about.  Yet, now that I reread through what Larry said and have thought it over, I don’t think he sees it as simply “to add a cruiser, or not to add a cruiser.”  It seems that he really feels that a 1939 A&A game wouldn’t just be difficult to make, but not be fun to play.  Perhaps he feels it would be as painful as watching the first two Star Wars prequels.  All they do is talk politics, and you just want them to get on with the darn war!

Larry has said on his forum that he doesn’t want to talk about it.  Perhaps we’re better off simply not knowing , just as we would have been better off not knowing Darth Vader was a winy teenager.

Ah yes, Vichy France.  There were apparently Polish collaborators as well.

I meant this thread only to point out how Afghanistan is shaped like Texas on the AA50 game board, yet this has turned more into a history talk.  Perhaps I should start a new thread…or perhaps I should stop being a “know-it-all”.

Any who, I think when it comes to the French it has a lot to do with nationalism.  All nationalism, it seems, is coupled with the idea that your country has a special mission from God.  The idea of having a mission to save the world doesn’t go well with being rescued, though you brought up the point that not all the French really wanted to be “rescued.”  To be truthful, the US didn’t enter the war to save France anyway.  We went because Germany declared war on us, and Germany was in France.

I just have to say on the map: Beautiful! A work of art.  :-)

I’m playing a 1942 game against my younger brothers (16 and 12) right now.  I’m Allies, they’re Axis.  We’re all new at the game.  Needless to say, they’re not nearly as aggressive as me, so I built an IC in Egypt on turn 1.  It’s still a risky gamble, but I feel Africa is mine.  I’ll update later.

@Frontovik:

btw, your text
hmm…
i agree, but i wouldn’t of been better
instead of gulags we would of have death camps
not big difference

Alas, one of the great myths of WWII has yet to die, the idea that we had to go to war in order to stop the Holocaust.  The Wannsee Conference, which came up with the “Final Solution”, did not take place untill January 20, 1942, after the United States had already been drawn into the war.  Six years before WWII under the Nazis, and two years after the start of the war, there was no Holocaust.  Half of Germany’s Jews had emigrated to other parts of Europe after the Nuremberg Laws were enacted, the other half after Kristallnacht.  When Hitler invaded Poland in on September 1, 1939, there practically were no Jews in Germany.

Why did Hitler invade Poland?  Because Poland refused to negotiate over the port of Danzig, a free city with a population 95% German, which wanted to be part of Germany.  Why did they refuse?  Because Britain, which had no draft, no divisions, no spitfires, gave Poland a War Guarantee that it would declare war on Germany over Danzig.

Why did Hitler invade Russia?  Churchill’s plan was to wait out Germany till Russia and the US could be drawn into the war.  Hitler felt that if he could quickly knock out Russia, it would convince Britain they could not win.

It wasn’t until mid-winter of 1942, when the German advance grounded to a halt, and being at war with the United States, Hitler knew he was doomed.  It was then that the genocide started.  It wasn’t the Holocaust that caused WWII, it was WWII that caused the Holocaust.

On September 1, 1939, Stalin had killed a 1,000 times more people than Hitler.  When German tanks rolled into Poland, Polish civilians began fleeing Eastward.  When they heard that the Red Army was coming from the East, they turned right around and started fleeing West towards the German Army.  “No big difference” you say?  Was a war that cost 50 million dead worth trading Hitler for Stalin in Europe and Tojo for Mao in China?  When Mao killed 50 million Chinese in his lifetime, the USSR killing 100 million in the Gulags in it’s lifetime, was the death of Fascism worth the Rise of Communism, and the enslavement of over half the world’s population?

but atleast with gulags, western europe was free

Hitler was not a threat to the West.  Remember, it was Britain and France that declared war on Germany, not the other way around.  If Hitler had planned all along to take over the world, why did he build the Western Wall, the German equivalent to France’s Maginot Line?  Why did he not build a fleet to challenge Great Britain?  Why did he not demand back any of the land lost to Italy and France, or the colonies lost in the Treaty of Versailles?  Why did Hitler offer peace after he conquered Poland in '39, and again after letting the British Army go at Dunkirk in 1940?  Why did he continually offer Britain an alliance?  Why did he not demand France’s fleet and colonies after conquering her?  Hitler’s goal was to take back land lost in the East, and form his empire there.

Hitler wanted hegemony over Central Europe, and an anti-Comintern Pact against communist Russia, an Alliance he offered Poland membership in (which had a right-wing government ruled by army colonels that Hitler saw as natural allies).

i still blame the US for not taking more of germany and the balkans
for the same context,

Really?  Was Truman wrong to decide that America’s national interests ended at the Elbe River?  Russia lost 350,000 lives in the Battle of Berlin alone.  Was taking one city, which had no military value, worth well over a quarter million lives?

The French seem to appreciate the United States very little for liberating them, and don’t seem to ponder too much the 200,000 white crosses that dot their country side.  Would the Germans have been anymore grateful for keeping part of their country away from the Russians after we firebombed Dresden, and carpet bombed every other city to dust?  Would the spliting of Germany between East and West have been better than splitting Germany into North and South, as was proposed by United States Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau, Jr. under the Morgenthau Plan, agreed upon by America and Britain on September 16, 1944 in Quebec, worth 350,000 American lives?  Was Yugoslavia worth more American lives?

i do honour the brits

As do I, but was loosing their empire worth Danzig?

Sorry, but my friends and I have a policy of never to mix movies and games.  Watching a movie and playing a game always turns into watching a movie.