Posts made by UN Spacy

@calvinhobbesliker:

@UN:

How many territories will French North Africa have, I wonder?

I see Morroco, Algeria, and Tunisia.

Same here…

IPC values: Algeria 2, Tunis 1, Morocco none (or 1 if Larry’s feeling generous)?

How many territories will French North Africa have, I wonder?

@calvinhobbesliker:

@UN:

Did you also put in the 10 Chinese infantry?  :?

yeah. Keep in mind that japan had 8 more planes than the allies.

I still call it luck. Grumble

I have a question. I think, since Japan has no navy at ALL in the Dutch East Indies I can have ANZAC send its submarine fleets to disrupt convoys there. But I’m not sure exactly how convoy disruptions work. It said it can’t exceed the combined IPC value of all adjacent territories or islands in the disrupted sea zone.

So if I had 4 submarines in SZ42, the most amount of IPC I can destroy is 19 IPCs (3 from Malaya, 4 from Sumatra, 4 from Java, 4 from Boreno, 3 from Celebes)?

Did you also put in the 10 Chinese infantry?  :?

@calvinhobbesliker:

I assume the Japs destroying the yunnan stack was lucky.

Yes, very lucky. I think I remember the proper OOB:

4 fighters (3 British, 1 Flying Tiger)

1 tactical bomber

10 Chinese infantry

4-6 British infantry

3 British tanks

1 British artillery

And for my sniveling Italian friend:

-6-10 infantry, not exactly sure how much

-2 artillery

-4 bombers

-4 tactical bombers

-4 fighters

Japan got 11 hits on the first round, me 9. Despite my attempts at trying to use psychological warfare, he pressed the attack despite the casualties and basically destroyed everything.  :-(

He might remember it better than I do though. As soon as we play again I’ll ask him how the battle happened.

@calvinhobbesliker:

In this game, bombarded units get to fire back before they die.

I doubt it would have made much difference. That just means only one infantry would be garrisoning Malaya with three bombers and three fighters protecting it. 4 unsuppored British infantry would not have broken through.

^ Thanks a million. Now I just need to get my laptop fixed so I don’t have to use this stupid Mac… :|

So anywhere, here’s the situation in my current Pacific 1940 game.

J1 attack leads to typical results, but I have the houserule of the US getting 40 IPCs immediately, so USA builds up formidable navy. China moves everything it can to keep the Burma Road open, and by J3 there is a seizable British-Chinese presence in Yunnan.

The Japanese player was very hesitant to take Yunnan because of the huge Allied army there; an earlier attack on it crippled the air forces stationed in China. So, to draw some British forces out the Japanese used the infantry it used to capture the DEI and brought them up to Malaya. With the help of two cruisers it took Malaya with no resistance (the single ANZAC infantry being wiped out by the cruiser bombardment). Even though the Brits had to divert some infantry south to Malaya it still looked very much like they could and would take it; two infantry could not and would not hold Malaya against a determined British attack.

That is, until the next Japanese turn, when they transferred the three fighters and tactical bombers from the aircraft carriers stationed at the Carolines  to Malaya. On that same turn a major factory was built on malaya, but then something even better for the Japanese happened.

I guess the Japanese player got very gambly (well, can’t expect much more, he’s my friend from Italy  :-P) and decided to attack the Allied stronghold in Yunnan with two objectives in mind:

-Close the Burma Road; most of China has already been taken at this point, but with the Burma Road open they’ll just pile up more infantry;

-Destroy the Allied force looming to take back the Chinese coast.

This is like, Battle of Austerlitz-like action: the Japanese, outnumbered and outgunned, sent in 6 infantry, 4 tactical bombers, 4 fighters, 4 bombers, two artillery against double the infantry, 4 British fighters, the flying tigers, a British tactical bomber, three British tanks, and a few other things I can’t remember at the moment.

Point is, only a Japanese artillery was left standing.

Well, the Japanese air force survived, but it lost three of the fighters. I think the Japs had more infantry than 6, but I can’t recall it now.  :?

Still, their objective was completed: the Burma Road was shattered, China was done for, and Britain’s power had been shattered. I recall how kauf said that India will always fall. Well, playing as Britain, I thought that to be impossible, and so that’s why I moved the majority of the India forces to Yunnan once the Chinese re-took it, and diverted the Malayan infantry to Yunnan was well.

Big mistake on my part.

Well, today we’re going to be continuing the game, and the situation is now this:

India is about to fall, there’s no doubt about that. Japan has 10 tanks and 10 mechanized infantry in Malaya along with seizable air cover. Their income exceeds that of the US by almost 20 IPCs (around 67 or 68 last I checked, somewhere in the 60s). ANZAC, in all this mess, is now simply building up a bunch of infantry and maybe a fighter or two. The Japanese have already begun building up a massive transport fleet with a big infantry stack in Kwantung. I’m pretty sure he’s going to support them with a bunch of artillery and tanks in the Australian invasion, but the Allies have a seizable force in Australia: the Americans have a large bomber fleet there, and there is a lot of American ground forces stationed there. The British cruiser and destroyer from the Indian coast managed to anchor themselves in Sydney, and is currently there.

With India about to fall I’m building up as many fighters as I can, and right before India falls (which is next turn) I’ll fly them all out to Western Australia.

Man, this is why I wish I knew how to take a screenshot of the board and post it up here. :(

But anyway…thoughts on the situation?

@jim010:

Play here online.

I’m usually looking for a game.

How would I play online?  :?

@Napoleon:

@UN:

@johnnymarr:

Per LH 8-12-09

The French territories will be French but there will not be any French units located on the AAP map. They will appear in the Europe game however. As for the Global game… I’m not sure there is a large enough French presence to warrant French units in FIC.

I’m not sure what he means by that. France maintained a prescense there, not a huge one, but enough, I would think, to warrant at least an infantry.

And sure a naval base might help Japan, but I think that would play out to be a double-edged knife: it becomes more of a tempting target to the Japanese, but since it’s Global game, an attack on French Indochina means risking the ire of the UK and ANZAC.

Unless, of course, Larry already has a rule that says even in Global a Japanese attack on French Indochina won’t provoke Britain and ANZAC. Though I think it would seem better if it was non-provocative only after Paris falls…

Yeah what is the case with the decleration of war with french indochina in global….is there one is japs enter it?

I’m not quite sure. As calvin has said, if Japan invades it in Global it might not be provocative, kind of as a Vichy rule without actually being Vichy. On the other hand, as I said, if we’re ignoring the Vichy rule in Europe 1940 we might as well ignore it in Global 1940.

+Googleplex

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@McMan:

If the game is fun and balanced, why add more rules for historical accuracy? It gets too complicated.

How is putting a French infantry in Britain complicated?

@calvinhobbesliker:

UN, could you show me where people were complaining about the lack of British flag? I didn’t see any.

Now you don’t see them…

now you do!

Heck, I will…

I mean, I think it should be there… perhaps with more cause than the French (no offence UN), but at this point I don’t care all that much. As long as the US is on there. Do I think they (the British) should be there: yes. Does it matter: no.

None taken. Actually, I could care less what the box art shows; it can be as American, British, French, or Soviet-biased as it wants. I’ve enjoyed a lot of the A&A box covers so far. It’s rare for board games to have such fantastic and attractive covers these days. I’m still gawking over my Pacific 1940 cover (having just gotten it a few days ago!).

…I wonder who’s the designer for these wonderful covers? Seems like the same guy who was behind AA50, AA1942, and Pacific 1940…

@Dylan:

I’m going to call you Joker

Wanna know how I got these scars?

@idk_iam_swiss:

off topic much? really its just a box…. why so serious?

It is just a box, I just don’t understand why the flag-waving British patriots have to whine and complain about it.

This thread is an example as to why I really need to find people that live around here capable of playing A&A. :(

Some criticism I’ve heard about the box art is the absence of the British flag on the box art, and the center of attention being on the Free French flag. Apparently the argument is that the British Empire did more fighting than the Americans (which is up for debate, but I’m not going into it here) and the Free French did little to nothing. I don’t understand this criticism when

1)the Brit flag has been seen on almost every Axis and Allies game to date, and even if it wasn’t the UK faction has been represented in every Axis and Allies board game (except Guadacanal and maybe the Battle of the Bulge–-haven’t played Bulge). Additionally, the UK is going to be well represented in Europe 1940 (Global 1940 even more so!).

2)I see nothing wrong with the Free French flag being the “main” flag here. Free French contribution to the Allied war effort wasn’t significant to turn the strategic tide, but it was enough to warrant worthy mention. However, all of that is irrelevant; this is the introduction of France as a full power for the first time in Axis and Allies. Sure, Italy’s flag might not have been shown in AA50 but you don’t see the Italians complaining do you?

Really, I don’t see what’s so insulting about the British flag not being shown on Europe 1940. We know what it looks like, we know how much the British contributed to the war effort (at least, people who know their history do), and we know they’re a major faction in the game. Only a dunce would have no idea Britain is in a game called “Axis and Allies: Europe 1940”.

@brettstarr4:

I think if Germany captures two of France’s 3 territories, the third should just surrender and their units should disappear from the map.  This would make the game more historically accurate.

No.

@calvinhobbesliker:

@UN:

Historically, although a lot of the French soldiers that were evacuated from Dunkirk were eventually repatriated, around 8000 joined the Free French. I think perhaps one infantry in the UK would do.

Weren’t most of the French soldiers that were evacuated sent back to France?

Yes, again, they were repatriated.

100,000 French soldiers were evacuated. They were put in camps all around southwestern England before (quickly, I might add) being repatriated back to France. Around 8000 of them joined the Free French.

Historically, although a lot of the French soldiers that were evacuated from Dunkirk were eventually repatriated, around 8000 joined the Free French. I think perhaps one infantry in the UK would do.

I apologize if this is too off-topic to ask, but if, say, Allied forces occupy a pro-Allied neutral territory, would the territory resist, or would its forces actually join up with them (and likewise for pro-Axis neutrals)? Say, for example, Soviet or British forces invade Iran, and Iran has three infantry silhouettes. Would three Soviet/British infantry appear once they occupy it?

@calvinhobbesliker:

@idk_iam_swiss:

regardless of whatever the set up says. Im putting an infantry there. Do you really think japan should just snag those IPCs for free? neither did I ( and that question was rhetorical)

They did historically take it without a fight. This may represent the Vichy rule without actually having a Vichy rule.

A good point. However, we can also assume that if we’re ignoring the Vichy rule in Europe we might as well ignore it in the Pacific. As Swiss said, I don’t think those IPCs should be free, even if they were free for the Japanese in real life. If France has at least two infantry, a destroyer, and a transport (or a cruiser at best) in Indochina it would, again, present the Japanese player with an interesting scenario.

I’m definitely going to try out several different scenarios once Europe 1940 comes out: with France having two infantry, a naval base and two non-battleship naval units there; with France having just one infantry there; and then with nothing.