Posts made by Tirano

@simon33:

I mean you’re assuming they don’t hit anything you care about like the Cruiser in SZ91. If you’re committed to no scramble, then maybe you can do that.

One thing you can’t do is send the Gibraltar fighter after Tobruk. It doesn’t have the range.

21 seems a pretty high bid to me. I think a lot of the problem with the lack of balance in this game is the victory city rule which favours the axis.

Also, 75% odds is pretty low with the consequences of a failed attack on SZ97 doing it that way. It’s basically the game lost right there, 25% of the time. With those other attacks you’re committing to, Egypt is going down - even if the SZ97 battle is a draw. 2 inf + 1 tac left, which will be attacked probably by 2inf 1art 1arm.

Excuse me on the gib fighter. As for 21 being a high bid, are you serious? I would t even play for 21 personally, 29 I MIGHT consider.  Also 75% odds are completely fine for Taranto since I’m doing Tobruk as well and have a 89% chance of at least one of those happening… If they take Egypt with 4 Units I can take it right back, I have a loaded transport from Persia and very likely a loaded transport from Ethiopa, PLUS my Trans Jordan Inf as well as the Strat Bomber and Tac Bomber that can reach… As for SZ91 let me repeat myself, most players target SZ106 instead.

@simon33:

I’m wondering about a naval base on Hainan to increase the effectiveness of one’s TTs. Done it once or twice and maybe should have kept doing it.
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It is perfect for the J3 India Crush ( Assuming No Blocker) and 3 TT buy R1 with a air force landing in Kwangsi following a J1 DOW

@simon33:

Can’t agree with the no sub bid.

You’re also assuming no real losses g1.

What do you mean no real losses? You simply don’t scramble. Also most players don’t go for SZ91 and instead go for 106.  Questioning it being alive is like assuming Japan to do J1 and instead of going for Phillipines going for Hawaii.  I don’t see your points at all Simon. Also that is just with a bid of 21. If it’s 29 you could put a destroyer in 91. Which would allow that Gib Fighter to then Hit Tobruk instead which would really raise those odds.  I think you can see that doing Ethiopa/Tobruk/Taranto/Persia all on UK1 if you dedicate your bid to doing such.

@Omega1759:

I’m of the mindset that Japan should buy MICs when they can afford to do so. 3 transports is the way to go early in the game, it’s cost effective and leaves all options open since your navy is dominant.

Can’t agree more. Doesn’t matter what DOW im doing either. It’s 3 Transports for me 1st turn. Only difference I ever have is if I buy an Art and save 1 or if I save 5.

@simon33:

@Hunter:

i can hit all 3 with about 75% sucesuss rate. With the hit of Tobruk at about 60%. Usally if Tobruk fails, the Axis is left with a fighter brought from Germany. The whole idea behind hitting all three is- t-o severely limit Italy on I1.

How would you do that?

Depends heavily on the Bid, with a bid of 21 it’s very achievable though. Put Bid Units as follows.

Artillery > Alexandria
Artillery > Sudan
Tank > Edgypt
Transport > SZ71

Combat Moves

SZ98 Transport (Inf+Art) and Tactical, Alexandria Force, Mech from Egypt > Tobruk
SZ71 Trans (2 Inf) Anglo Sudan Force, Tank from Egypt > Ethiopa

SZ91 + Gib Fighter > SZ96
SZ98 Fleet + Malta Fighter + 2 Fighter UK and Strat > SZ97

So each battle looks like this

Tobruk:
UK - 3 Inf 3 Art 1 Tank 1 Tac
Italy - 3 Inf 1 Mech 1 Art 1 Tank (1 German Fighter maybe?)
UK win 96% of time or 67% if German Fighter is there
Ethiopa:
UK - 3 Inf 1 Art 1 Tank
Italy - 2 Inf 1 Art
UK win 94% of time
SZ96:
UK - 1 Cruiser 1 Fighter
Italy - 1 Destroyer
UK win 95% of time
SZ97:
UK - 1 Carrier 1 Destroyer 1 Cruiser 3 Fighter 1 Strat
Italy - 1 Cruiser 1 Battleship (2-3 Fighter Maybe?)
UK win 76% even with max scramble.

For Noncom make sure to Have India Fleet Actuvate Persia so now if Italy Takes Egypt with its lone Transport you can attack with a loaded Transport from Persia, your Trans Jordan man, any Ethiopan Forces alive, plus your Fighter, Tactical, and Strat that possibly landed in Malta. So unless the Luftwaffe is positioned to reinforce Egypt the Brits can take it back.

My games at Gencon had a clean bid (none to either side) and then a 4 bid to the Axis.

@Marshmallow:

Agree with you that air should not be taken as loss before BB in this scenario.

I don’t think you can kill the transport before the BB thought.

Marsh

Well no you can’t, however the reason I do the Taranto raid is to deny Italy of transports, not a Battleship

@Marshmallow:

Isn’t killing the BB the point of the whole attack? Or do you think Italy would take the BB as a casualty before losing aircraft?

Marsh

I take the BB before Aircraft, as Italy, because Air dominates this game. Saving the Italian fighters is much better, because they can Can-Open for Germ or can be used if you build a carrier.  I thought the whole reason of doing Taranto was to kill 2 Italian Trans, and that taking out the BB was just a nice side affect, right?

@Marshmallow:

I would do it on round one if I could take out all of Japan’s transports. If, for instance, Japan parked all transports with a very light escort in sea zone 36. I would then hit sea zone 36 with everything I had to paralyze Japan’s ability to transport troops for an entire turn, and collect my NOs in the process. Then the UK and ANZAC could collect NOs for two rounds with no Japanese answer taking NOs away.

Obviously that is a very specific situation for Japan to let the transports be killed like that.

Marsh

very true marsh, but I am assuming that Japan is not retarded.  If Japan empties all their carriers and put them in range of my SZ39 fleet and my India air force then I might UK1 DOW in that situation as well.

UK has one theater it should focus on, and that is the Med/ME.

@siparo:

I disagree. There are situations where it may make sense for UK to DOW Japan so they and ANZAC can pick up bonuses.

Not on around 1, that’s a Round2/3 thing

Coming from Little Rock Arkansas  :-)

While I’m registered for G42 (friendly on Thursday and qaul on Friday) I’m more looking forward to the G40 pick up games  :lol:

@taamvan:

I’ll tell you after gencon ;)

Just one more day Taam and then we will be there  :-D

Assuming no blocker is put down in Baltic States

I love the idea and have considered it in depth myself, however it all hinges on that statement right there.  I do not like to dictate my first round buy hoping that they did not leave a blocker…

@taamvan:

true true tirano, but the forces must exist off the east coast of the US, then move to gib, then move to London–so you have to be ready to liberate 3 turns ahead of needing to.    Some players built only against Japan during a J1 and now you don’t have a single transport to work with in the east.

Good points Jon, all very dependent on when/if Japan has done a DOW, might be inconsequential as America has its hands tied in the Atlantic anyway.

I agree very much with taaam and shadow. Sea Lion is my FAVORITE thing to see as an allied player, by far.  Russia is simply unconquerable if Germany spends all its money on UK, as well as existing pieces. America simply has to spend a full round of purchases to liberate UK, then Russia will stand and America can continue with its KJF.  The only players who do not like Sea Lion are the Axis (UK if selfish).

Very True Simon, Sea Lion even if successful increases allied chances of victory, so unles its 90%+ as Germany, I’m not doing it.

@simon33:

Ah, you said with 5Tacs & 5Ftrs. With no bombardment, 4tacs+4ftrs and must take territory I can get it down to 42%.

A more realistic scenario of 3 tanks, 3ftrs, 5tacs and a cruiser bombardment it is 51%. Rising to 55% with 5 tanks.

Sure playing with the air force even slightly makes large differences. But even at 55% would Germany risk the whole game on that? If they lose then Moscow and London surely stand and allow USA to stop Japan.  If they win it is at a great cost and Russia will still likely stand and once the USA liberates UK on Round 5 then America takes Japan.  So unless Germany gets the luckiest rolls of all time, it’s really not an option

For one I make sure I select “must take territory” then after realizing the bombardments the percentage has came down to 52% for London. The difference is you are running a perfect scenario for Germany, where they keep all surface ships, and all Luftwaffe. I am running it as if they either get to keep 1-2 planes or lose the bombardments, not both.

http://goo.gl/lmb1Gu

I ran that right there and got UK winning 51-53% of the time.  With Must take territory turned off.  Tell me how you are setting up it, I may indeed be wrong myself I just need to see how ;)

@simon33:

Would you really buy 5inf UK1 in London rather than 2inf+1ftr? All of this assumes no fleet action so probably will not happen.

I just ran the odds. Perhaps I’m looking at something different to you but I get 81% to the attacker.

Attacker: 10inf 7art 3arm 5ftr 5tac 2sb 1Cru 1BB
Def: 22inf 1mec 1tank 4ftr 1sb 5aaa

This is all pretty theoretical but fleet action will no doubt reduce the strength of the attack.

Absolutely I forgot the Bombardments, however in order to have saved that Battleship you would have lost at least 1 plane if not 2. Which as you said would weaken the attack.

As for would I buy 5 Inf over 2 Inf&1 Plane? Absolutely, every time. I see 5 Inf as a MINIMUM buy for UK on turn 1 regardless of German buys. Only way I might consider less is if Germany has left me with the bulk of my navy, in which case I’d consider a Carrier and Tac.

The point I’m trying to make is that UK can afford a IC in Egypt on Turn 1 if they so wish, assuming rest is defense for London.  London still has a viable enough defense that Germany would be unwise to pursue Sea Lion any further.  As Germany if I want to threaten Sea Lion I simply buy 1 Trans which forces a 5 Inf UK buy, so as Germany I call that a net win, which is all you are tyrinh to accomplish as Germany.