Posts made by TheDesertFox

@tin-can-of-the-sea

It’s incredibly easy to take out Russia as Germany, but to tie up loose ends with possible confusion let’s address the setting.

For starters, Germany has the option of attacking within G1-G4 before the Soviets get to declare war on them after the timer has passed up. So the question would be what turn are you attacking them? I personally like to attack on G3 as this is the perfect time that Germany has really kicked Britain’s teeth in, established themselves as a dominant industrial powerhouse having taken out France, Bulgaria, possibly Yugoslavia/Greece and Finland with Axis troops ready at the border of Russia.

Secondly, if you’re struggling to take out the Soviet Union it leads me to believe that the Soviets are imposing some sort of special strategy on you. If so, can you tell me this strategy so I can help you counter it and if you dont know the name best describe the moves that they do (i.e if they make a defensive fall back line or stack Moscow with tons of units).

As for myself, when I break through the Russian lines and start to march onto the Soviet economy, Germany tends to just steamroll and snowball their economy, with TONS of troops marching onto Moscow city that it’s basically impossible for Russia to defend Moscow, not because they lost units but because they aren’t making as many as I am after I’ve taken out the majority of their land in the Western portion of the USSR no problemo with the only issue being an Allied invasion.

So we’d need to know the circumstances at what turn your attacking, as well as if the Soviets are imposing any special strategies, and most importantly how your attacking with your units.

@crockett36

Definitely a more interesting and bare bones way of going about fighting the Japanese…

So many years back when I was still playing mini 1941 edition with a buddy of mine, we always had the Battleship race to see who as America or Japan could get the lead in battleships since that was the way to win the Pacific. Having gone from 1941 edition to Anniversary, America was capable of building 2 battleships a turn making me stumped as to how this was fair until I found the catch as to which carriers were the way to go.

I’ve done the math, and a whopping 2 battleships matches up to a carrier with 2 fighters on it, which as you know is not cost effective.

As for not buying capital ships… I’m trying to see a scenario of how this works out for the US. America not buying ANY capital ships? 0 battleships and 0 carriers?

So to be completely exact, America begins with 5 planes on the Pacific side of the board. Each of these planes is capable of reaching Wake Island as expected, you can even bring a bomber if you’re really tryna jazz up the airforce. All to which can reach Midway or Wake Island on Americas first turn. Now, seeing as there are 4 frickin’ fighters just chilling in one spot with like, no ground forces acting as backup, I as Japan won’t have attacked on J1, have built like 2 transports the firs tturn or a transport and a carrier to hold more fighters.

Now assuming you move your navy to Wake to protect from an amphibious assault, you’re effectively throwing you’re navy out the gate since Japan starts with a far stronger navy then the Americans, and as for subs well… destroyer. That’s all it takes to make any surprise strikes completely incapable as well as the mass amount of Japanese planes that can then strikea the submarines with access to destroyers. So I really do not know why the IJN would run from this fight… the potential to bring in 4 aircraft carriers, 2 battleships, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 2 submarines, and like 4 to 5 transports of units all crashing down on Wake Island, only for the entirety of your navy to be destroyed, not only that but the only airforce you had in the Pacific.

Also, there really isn’t anything stopping me from taking Wake Island and Guam even on a J1 attack and setting up a Japanese sphere of influence with the large naval presence to go along with IJN blockers to prevent you from making amphibious landings…

I mean, I’m not saying anything’s impossible, but if America doesn’t build capital ships then they’re gonna die… they’re sailors are gonna die, and they allies are gonna’ die. There just isn’t any other way of countering the large IJN naval presence then to fight guns with even bigger guns.

@flyingbadger

Hahaha I see what you did there!

@nolimit

Frankly even if they didnt go after Japan, it’d just be the same thing only Japan is doing it.

Both Germany and Japan have the ability to inflict their will upon the Pacific/Atlantic and the U.S. needs to take the appropriate measures to counter both of these guys at all costs.

@crockett36

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, I had my hands full with some stuff.

Anyway, I think you’re headed in the right direction, though I feel like ‘reserves’ is a bit vague and too open to interpretation since that could mean anything and it’s going to take a bit more than building a few ships to beat back the Empire of the Rising Sun.

So what i’ve developed is a simple philosophy I call the “Carrier Race” which can be used for the Japanese or Americans. Basically, this philosophy involves what the name states… of the race to build Aircraft Carriers.

Personally, I’ve found that when Japan or America industrializes Aircraft Carriers, they typically prove incredibly dominant in the Pacific. And the reason for this is because when the Japanese and Americans clash in the Paciific, it is mainly islands, which as you know tanks don’t prove very useful on islands, but you can’t just bring in infantry and artillery to take back important key strategic islands like the money islands, so having carriers with fighters in close support proves incredibly useful for taking out Japan’s sphere of influence.

And thats where the solution stands, since it’s more than likely that you could lose your aircraft carrier and your battleship by a J2 Pearl Harbor with Japan having 4 aircraft carriers by that time to do it. So this would REALLY set your Pacific campaign back by a lot. All the same, you could keep your navy on the coast of California though that kind of defeats the purpose of doing a KJF tactic.

A typical build I like to do is I usually build 2 carriers and a battleship on A1 which can be diverted in the Atlantic or Pacific whatever you plan to do. Or you could build 3 carriers which could be overstepping the boundaries but it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch.

Either way, the Pacific can be an absolute headache for either Japan or America to deal with depending on the circumstances and obviously the rolling of course, but who knows.

@crockett36

Not a bad plan, KJF could be seen as the latter approach to winning the game for the Allies though the same political system that Japan stands by still hurts the Americans to do so.

Japan doesn’t have to go to war with the Allies on J1, automatically leaving the Americans unable to do anything initially and any concentrated navy in say the Hawaiian Islands wouldn’t be a stretch for Japan to kill off with their large mass of planes.

For me, I typically bring the fight to Germany for the most part, but all the same I don’t leave Japan open to do whatever they want in the Pacific. While I have operations going on in the Atlantic, I build up a small force of American Units, I build up my navy having hoped that Japan does not destroy it and basically act as a disruption to Japan. Part of what I mean by this is instead of going all out in the Pacific taking it to the Japanese, I do minor inconveniences for them and setbacks like going as far as quickly destroying a newly built navy in the Sea of Japan as well as getting some of their Kamikazes off the board as well.

All in all, the vast size of the Pacific and the constraint of the Americans have to cross that vast size can typically make their fighting ineffective against Japan but having played your cards right, and caught Japan off guard at the right time and you can do some serious damage to the Rising Sun Empire.

@gen-manstein

Yeah, you’re right, that was pretty extra of me, I’m sorry you guys had to see that.

All the same though, I’m not gonna stand by and let jack bags be jack bags in a place that we literally talk about moving plastic pieces on a board, it’s just not okay. And frankly, I went right with it. Tried to be civil, was respectful in initial constructive criticism, even tried to end the whole thing and leave it behind, but what are you gonna do when they just love to keep digging that grave.

Well I’m glad we’re finally done here. I was wondering when you’d slap yourself back into reality and realize what a complete douche clown you’ve been this whole time.

So for the sake of consistency im leaving this thread as well since you’ve pretty much poisoned it with pointless blabbering of non related stuff that nobody else needs to read…

@pinch1

Its like I was trying to say that for a couple days now somewhere else on the forums… -_-

@pinch1

The fact that you call it madness is a joke of itself. It tells me you don’t even see the words you put in your posts. Not to mention the fact that you’re treating a boardgame of pushing plastic pieces like the Ducks Fan watching Monday Night Football, you’ve given me a laugh my man

And since you’re just all about that common sense, then it should be common sense to you that you clearly may have been acting a bit egotistical to have made me put the foot down.

I act like I know it all? Dude copying and pasting what I’ve literally described about you doesnt pass the smell test. 😒

I’m not mad at you, I just feel sorry for you. Sorry for the fact that you can’t even see when others are trying to sympathize with you. You telling me that my actions are far more crude and disrespectful indicates to me that you might not even know the context of those words either.

You produced nothing of value, you merely copied and pasted what GHG said. Thats what we call in America 'stealing" and ‘disapointing’

@squirecam

Pretty much. I dont think it gets simpler than that. Either Axis power has the ability to make the US pay consequentially for choosing one side of the board over the other.

I stated earlier that having assumed Japan takes Calcutta as well as the other cities of course, all that’s left is taking Honolulu or Sydney to which the Americans by GHG’s standard will have been building mostly everything in the Atlantic. yes I know he says to also shuck units back and forward into Hawaii but that’s what the Pearl Harbor attack is for.

@pinch1 said in Countering the Russian Fall Back Line:

@thedesertfox said in Countering the Russian Fall Back Line:

@Pinch1

Alright then, that’s the final straw. I’ve tried to be civil about this and have a genuine authentic conversation with you but you’ve let your ignorance get the better of you, and I’m not gonna stand by it.

Oh now it’s Noher Osten. Your first mention of this Noher Osten was on the second page of posts and its wasn’t explained. You just said, Noher Osten, as if giving it name and adding it to the every growing list of pretend strategies actually means anything.
First it was Blitzcrieg which isn’t a unique strategy worthy of a name. Its just attack Russia with everything but I’ll humor it. Then the clarification of adding Africa Korps, which also, was a known and very prominent German strategy already. Some would say one of the more effective strategies even.

Yeah, it’s been Noher Osten. In case you were unaware, that means Middle East, and in case you weren’t paying attention, then again when have you ever done that since the time we’ve been talking, I’ve posted the entirety of what the strategy Noher Osten is all about in the Middle Earth thread. I’ll let you find it for yourself. No, I said it, referring to the thought out strategy at which I made for Germany to counter a Middle Earth tactic, you were just too lazy to actually read the words on the screen at which I posted and instead jumped to conclusions as you usually do and criticized me for basically nothing.

I have no idea what Blitzcrieg is, you’ll have to tell me allllll about that strategy since I know you just get off on playing the Axis. But I do know what Blitz Krieg is. Lightning War. An incredibly simple strategy at which I didnt even say was new and authentic, since I consistently repeated that it goes as simple as doing what Germany did in real life to counter the annoyance of Russia, but then again why would you have noticed that, you’re oblivious, cocky, and naïve to have actually notice and recognize what other people have to say.

It sounds to me that you have a personal problem going on of utilizing effective German strategies, to which 2 of the 3 of these were designed and described on how to utilize them by me, to which Middle Earth? Russian Fall Back Line? Floating Bridge? 0 of these are authentic original strategies by you. It amazes me how hypocritical you are of me when you fail to keep yourself in check.

Noher Osten you say? This must be the secret sauce. I’ve been missing. Please subject me further to your entitlement good sir. I would like to know. What is this Noher Osten you speak of? I suspect greatly it is the missing piece of the puzzle to my understanding.

I would’ve, and frankly I should, but I’m not going to. Trying to convey logic and reasoning to you is a bigger waste of time then trying to explain why communism was destined to fail the moment it began. I sympathize with your thinking, tell you how it can be countered, and all you merely do is tell me what I already know, I dont think that spells out “big ass waste of time” any clearer.

Also, you should get your childish sarcasm checked out, because nobody here has time for your elementary schooler garbage, we come here to respectfully discuss strategies and connect with each other, not deal with delinquent delusional pricks such as yourself.

Or you can cowboy up and play a few games. If you really want to get your name out there and be known as the one who solved the biggest conundrum in A&A global for the last half a decade be my guest. I won’t just crush you mercilessly and say your strats are crap after a single game. Dice happen. I will evaluate objectively for it’s own merits. Otherwise words words words that’s all you are is words on paper and words on the internet. You’ll be nothing more than words until you can commit.

If putting words in my mouth was your goal, than you’ve succeeded in doing so. I have no interest in playing a few games with you, and I never wanted to get my name out there to be known as the person who literally just made a strategy to counter a strategy. You’re alter-ego is absolutely sickening and disgusting to have to see.

You, crush me? Dude, you can’t achieve what’s absolutely impossible. Even if you wanted to you couldn’t, I dont think you see your bland and absolute crude attitude here but I really hope you dont talk to other people like this because that kind of talk is absolutely inhumane.

And frankly, all you’ll ever be is a selfish prick that can’t seem to move even an inch outside of your own personal ego thought bubble to which you then proceed to be offended by which I come up with an incredibly simple solution to solving the problem of ‘the allies being unstoppable.’

You’ve definitely amused me alright. You’ve also proven to me how cocky, hypocritical, and stupid you are. To think I actually considered playing a game of Global 40’ with you.

I tried to handle this in a civilized manor, I tried to explain my reasoning and logic to you in the most respectful way possible, I at the very least tried for constructive criticism when talking about the points of which you were wrong in. Hell! I even tried to end this whole conversation seeing as you were dragging it completely out of proportion to what this thread was all about! And hah! Who would’ve thought that you just couldn’t help yourself from typing more. One damn post after another, you never seize to stop your bickering about how the Allies can do this and how the Allies can do that at which I’ve already told you I KNOW.

If there was ever any hostility from my end that made you become so crude and up-tight, I do apologize as it was not my intention for this conversation to go this way, but unfortunately what are you gonna do about the people that just can’t leave it alone, am I right?

I have nothing against you, and I hope we can come to talk reasonably again soon enough, who knows maybe even fly out to wherever state you live in for a couple games and some good old times of smokin’ and jokin’.

But for now, you’re not worth my time and engagement with that kind of attitude.

Until next time, buddy.

@pinch1 said in Countering the Russian Fall Back Line:

@thedesertfox said in Countering the Russian Fall Back Line:

@pinch1

You’re right, you can’t say anything else at this point because when push comes to shove, deep down inside you don’t have the confidence your strategies will hold up under the scrutiny of other players at the table. That’s the ultimate test. Can you dig it?

Again, conjecture from your end. You don’t know me and I don’t know you yet you think you know when I have confidence in what I’m saying? That’s incredibly crude of you dude, so we are done here.

If you were confused I tried to clear the air of that. But if you wanna reject the proper way at which I and alot of other people go about doing this than thats a personal problem only you can figure out

We are done here, there is nothing else

@Pinch1

Then we are done here.

If something was confusing at first then I would have been more than entitled to clear it up.

If you’re gonna ignore the fact that I’ve told you my own personal strategy developed and designed by me that works, then I’m done here. And incase you oblivious missed it, the strategy is called Noher Osten

All the same i still think Afrika Korps gets the job done more than Sealion does but for all in tense and purposes if the British are gonna do anything to divert this then I’ll use Sealion as a 2nd option. The Germans are weighted to win Sealion. Even still the standard UK buy is 6 infantry and a fighter on London because why the hell not

@pinch1

It sure has.

Hence why I’m not too fond of it.

I’m not going to argue the merits at which Sealion is effective in the OOB rules for victory conditions. Maybe it’ll get the win in the Grasshopper tournament rules with the London token but still. To me if the UK feel so entitled as to remove the majority of their fighters from London fine by me.

And yes, 1 fighter can make the difference of keeping or losing London

The ironic thing is that I coulda swore you said you agreed with me and my analysis of dealing with the so said Soviet Maginot Line from the start, but I guess not then.