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@The_Good_Captain Yeah. Similar to what I tried Vs. VictoryFirst in our game (which also regrettably didn’t work out) was the last-ditch-effort to leave Moscow and attack back into it instead of defending. That would have at least eliminated the German air-factor (or alternatively let me throw all the allied air at Berlin), but of course that’s still grasping at straws and did not work out.

@Karl7 …only bc the British did so awful. Otherwise, as you pointed out earlier - the game was 60% Allies going into the allied side of turn 6…

This is one of the points we uncovered early on: If the Western Allies are ‘doing it right’, the Germans will be forced to fight the battle of Moscow on G6 followed immediately by the battle of Berlin. And they must win both. The allies only need to win one of them to win the game - the Germans need to win both.

So to elaborate on what I was calculating here:

“Net TUV swing” is the difference between the Average TUV swing and the Actual TUV swing of each battle. So, a completely average game should have this number as close to 0 as possible. It is more or less equivalent to the Net Pieces that TGC calculated but with the IPC-value of each piece factored in (so -1.00 Net Pieces could mean one 3-IPC infantry or one 15-IPC bomber lost, this would be respectively around -3.00 and -15.00 with Net TUV swing).
So, the battles in the Atlantic generally have more extreme numbers because the naval units are far more expensive than land units.

“Overall TUV swing throughout the entire game” is just a sum of the TUV swings of each battle. This number doesn’t really have an average but it should be compared to other games. It gives a sense for how many IPC worth of units the Germans killed versus how many they lost themselves, or in other words, how much they “gained”.

The names of the calculations might be a bit confusing though, I would rather see the second calculation be called “Net TUV swing”, the first one perhaps “TUV Swing Differential”?

@The_Good_Captain

GG, start a fresh one.

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@DoManMacgee @VictoryFirst I was about to advocate for dropping the pre-game 12 IPC for Germany, removing a single sub from the Bay of Biscay AND removing an infantry from Romania.

If this has the affect that I think it will, I will not recommend removing the infantry from Romania and instead recommend the removal of the pre-game 12 IPC and single submarine from Bay of Biscay.

@The_Good_Captain

ok, then I will bid 2 inf in malta and 2 inf Karelia

@kwaspek104

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 52 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 52 to 40 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Tunisia to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Malta 1 submarine moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Poland to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to English Channel Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from France to English Channel Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 1 armour moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 3 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 2 armour moved from Poland to Bessarabia 1 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 1 artillery moved from Hungary to East Poland 1 artillery moved from Poland to Baltic States 3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 2 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 2 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 3 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Combat - Germans Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone British win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -16 Casualties for Germans: 3 submarines Casualties for British: 1 transport Battle in Bessarabia Germans attack with 4 armour and 5 infantry Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 4 armour and 5 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 2.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 4 armour and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Vyborg, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Vyborg, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in North Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 transport British defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 transport owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 4 fighters and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 36 Casualties for Germans: 1 transport Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Poland Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in English Channel Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in English Channel Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in English Channel Sea Zone Germans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Malta Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry British defend with 1 fighter Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in Malta, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Malta, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in Malta, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Malta 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Malta Germans win, taking Malta from British with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 fighter Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber and 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 transports in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits 2 transports owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber and 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 transports Battle in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans win with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in East Poland Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry Russians defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia to Poland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Rumania 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Hungary 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Austria 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Denmark to Germany 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Poland 2 armour moved from France to Germany 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 4 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 bomber moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 81 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -2.33 Germans regular : 4.83 British regular : -0.50

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Yes you are using an older version, as I am not able to open your save files and I have the latest version. However that issue you are bringing up is really weird and should not be caused by the older version I think. I don’t know what could be going on, that issue has never happened to me.

I suggest you use the newest version next time and see if it comes up again somewhere.

@Krieghund Thanks! (For completeness, I should have been more clear in that Germany controlled Persia at the beginning of its turn in this example. i.e. there was/is a legal landing zone for the fighter)

@Karl7

4 inf in Belorussia

@kwaspek104

what would you have done if I had done this on the previous turn?

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@kwaspek104

yeah okay, i think thats 100% on both ends.

not a good game but appreciate the sentiment - i think we should go again but whoever is Germany should go without the SCA. Shall I try it again as Germany?

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Made the same mistake again 😅

@The_Good_Captain

Just to be precise:

The TripleA website is :
https://triplea-game.org/

The (module) map-repositories (most of them included in TripleA) have been maintained and hosted here:
https://github.com/triplea-maps/
for more than a decade.

Every map (module / specific game) downloaded directly via TripleA stems from there - or has made its way from map-creators’ drives to the ‘official’ repositories.

Usually this written information with the given headline of this thread should be in the TripleA-support category.
But as the video is about @VictoryFirst 's efforts and contributions I recommend to change the title of this topic to something “non-TripleA-technical”.

(Somehow I missed this topic in 2024, so please excuse my late reaction.)

@DoManMacgee @kwaspek104

I did the German turn and then the power cut out so there is no save.

Its okay bc the Germans got killed everywhere. Blown out of Libya - cut up bad in France and most the blockers hit elsewhere.

I’m good, gg I concede. Those first three turns are just so damn critical…

@The_Good_Captain Also, from page 9:

Axis & Allies: D-Day is played in a series of turns. A turn consists of one pass through the sixteen order cards, and then a check for victory.

Since victory is checked at the end of each turn, the Allies must hold the required zones until the end of turn 10.

@The_Good_Captain

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!!!

Good game. Although you did get some horrible dice at the end there.

@SuperbattleshipYamato of course. These games are actually very helpful as a continuation of studying this game. Very much appreciate these games with you.

@The_Good_Captain

Same sides.

@The_Good_Captain Thank you for that.