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@Narvik they made us all sign non-disclosure agreements which I think is silly but it was a pre-requisite to help out. I play tested. I didn’t help with design so as for how they compute the game economy or any use of computers or AI is unknown to me. Some playtesters brought their own methods of balancing or rating these things and provided input but that was largely left to Renegade.

I wish there had been more time to playtest. I will say that about Africa and to a lesser extent, Stalingrad.

As for all the other versions and imbalance in general: I will say that it appears that playtesting and balance took a back seat to production deadlines. It appears that the thousands of human playtesting games that you and I would agree need to be done, were likely not done.

I hear D-Day is being re-released here soon. I have high hopes that that will be fully balanced. We’ll see.

@Darkpriorace

Game History

Round: 22 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 4 infantry moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Germans Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry Americans defend with 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 5 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 5 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 6 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 6 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry Casualties for Americans: 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany 10 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe 4 infantry moved from West Europe to Germany 2 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe Place Units - Germans 10 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.67 Germans regular : -2.00

G22.tsvg Allies: +45.93, Geez wow. Glad you’re okay. Pneumonia? Dude…that’s so messed up. Welcome back. Hospitals are such awful places to be when you’re sick.

Thank you very much
Did not want to assume so thanks

@The_Good_Captain Calling GG here. Germany is just going to die because of the 1-2 of IT + USA and then the game is over after that.

@VictoryFirst Yes, you can also do it that way.

@The_Good_Captain

No, the British player cannot buy supply with pre-game variable RPs.
On page 9, the plastic game pieces are referred to as combat units and trucks. As supply is not a plastic piece, they are not combat units.

Under LAND UNITS on page 30: “Infantry, mechanized infantry, artillery, anti-tank guns, anti-aircraft artillery, scout cars, and tanks are combat units, but trucks are not combat units.” Supply is not listed here as a combat unit.

Looks like we should have defined combat units more carefully, but the phrase “combat unit” appears dozens of times in the rulebook and it is clear in those uses that supply is not considered a combat unit.

Thanks,
Matt

gg!

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@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 14 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Bordeaux to Burgundy 1 infantry moved from Marseilles to Burgundy 4 infantry moved from Canada to SZ 2 2 infantry moved from Canada to SZ 2 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 2 to SZ 15 4 transports moved from SZ 15 to SZ 2 7 infantry moved from United States of America to Canada 1 transport moved from SZ 16 to SZ 2 2 infantry moved from SZ 15 to Brest 8 infantry moved from Brest to Paris Combat - Americans Battle in Burgundy Americans attack with 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 3 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Burgundy Americans win, taking Burgundy from Germans with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 6 infantry placed in United States of America Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.00 Germans regular : -0.50

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@Ragnell804

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@Ragnell804

Game History

Round: 12 Actions - AustroHungarians Purchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians 2 infantry moved from Tuscany to Naples 2 tanks moved from Tuscany to Rome 8 infantry moved from Tuscany to Rome 8 artilleries moved from Tuscany to Rome 1 fighter moved from Tuscany to Rome 3 infantry moved from Tuscany to Rome 2 infantry moved from Tuscany to Rome 1 infantry moved from Serbia to Romania 8 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Serbia to Budapest 4 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice 2 infantry moved from Tuscany to Naples 16 infantry moved from Tuscany to Piedmont 14 infantry moved from Venice to Piedmont 10 infantry moved from Trieste to Budapest 4 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste 2 fighters moved from Vienna to Trieste 7 infantry moved from Vienna to Budapest Combat - AustroHungarians Battle in Naples AustroHungarians attack with 4 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 infantry in Naples, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Naples, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Naples 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Naples AustroHungarians win, taking Naples from Italians with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in Rome AustroHungarians attack with 8 artilleries, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 2 tanks Italians defend with 1 factory, 9 infantry and 1 port AustroHungarians roll dice for 8 artilleries, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 2 tanks in Rome, round 2 : 6/24 hits, 12.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 9 infantry in Rome, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 4.50 expected hits Units damaged: 2 tanks owned by the AustroHungarians 3 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Rome 6 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Rome Italians and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 3 infantry Casualties for Italians: 6 infantry Combat Move - AustroHungarians Place Units - AustroHungarians 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 13 infantry placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 1.00 AustroHungarians regular : -5.33

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@Ragnell804

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 12 artilleries, 1 fighter and 16 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium 16 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr 1 infantry moved from Munich to Ruhr 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 6 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Berlin to Hanover 2 infantry moved from Livonia to Karelia 10 artilleries, 2 fighters and 18 infantry moved from Livonia to Moscow 5 infantry moved from Poland to Livonia Combat - Germans Battle in Karelia Germans attack with 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry and 1 port Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Belgium Germans attack with 12 artilleries, 1 fighter and 16 infantry British defend with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry; French defend with 1 artillery and 6 infantry Germans roll dice for 12 artilleries, 1 fighter and 16 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 16/29 hits, 15.67 expected hits British roll dice for 3 artilleries and 10 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 4/13 hits, 6.50 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belgium 6 infantry owned by the French, 2 artilleries owned by the British, 4 infantry owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Belgium Germans win, taking Belgium from British with 12 artilleries, 1 fighter and 12 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30 Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 2 artilleries and 4 infantry Battle in Moscow Germans attack with 10 artilleries, 2 fighters and 18 infantry Russians defend with 14 artilleries, 1 factory and 9 infantry Germans roll dice for 10 artilleries, 2 fighters and 18 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 12/30 hits, 15.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 14 artilleries and 9 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 17/23 hits, 11.50 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 16 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 8 infantry owned by the Russians and 4 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Russians and Germans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -14 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 16 infantry Casualties for Russians: 4 artilleries and 8 infantry Combat Move - Germans Trigger RemoveKareliaMine: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachmentKareliaSwitch attached to Russians Trigger RemoveKareliaMine: has removed 1 mines owned by Russians in SZ 12 Trigger RemoveKareliaMine: has removed 1 mines owned by Russians in SZ 6 Place Units - Germans 13 infantry placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 5.00 Germans regular : -1.33 British regular : -2.50

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gg, ill start another

@Ragnell804

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 fighter and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Poland to Livonia Germans take Livonia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Poland to Belarus Germans take Belarus from Russians 6 artilleries, 1 fighter and 10 infantry moved from Poland to Ukraine 3 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Silesia to Poland 2 infantry moved from Prussia to Poland 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Prussia 3 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Alsace to Lorraine 6 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Belgium to Lorraine 1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium 4 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Hanover to Ruhr 1 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr 1 infantry moved from Munich to Alsace 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 5 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover 1 fighter moved from Berlin to Ruhr Combat - Germans Battle in Lorraine Germans attack with 9 artilleries and 22 infantry French defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 9 artilleries and 22 infantry in Lorraine, round 2 : 12/31 hits, 13.33 expected hits French roll dice for 2 infantry in Lorraine, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the French lost in Lorraine Germans win, taking Lorraine from French with 9 artilleries and 22 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for French: 2 infantry Battle in Ukraine Germans attack with 6 artilleries, 1 fighter and 10 infantry; AustroHungarians loiter and taunt Russians defend with 9 artilleries and 7 infantry Germans roll dice for 6 artilleries, 1 fighter and 10 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 5/17 hits, 8.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 9 artilleries and 7 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 9/16 hits, 8.00 expected hits 9 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine 5 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine Russians and Germans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -12 Casualties for Germans: 9 infantry Casualties for Russians: 5 infantry Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 1 fighter and 12 infantry placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 47 PUs; end with 49 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -1.00 Russians regular : 1.00 Germans regular : -5.00

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@ManuC23 yes, Lee is a tough opponent for classic. Very good!!

@Ragnell804 Entente +9.05

The final video in my Europe series is up. I have a lot more respect for this version now. Lot’s of good stuff going on in there that I think got missed: https://youtu.be/_AjN3D4bWJ0?si=NYEEAwXEro3jqQDu

@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 11 Research Technology - Japanese Japanese spend 25 on tech rolls Japanese roll 2,5,4,6,3 and gets 1 hit Japanese discover Heavy Bomber Activate Technology - Japanese Japanese activating Heavy Bomber Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 armour and 15 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters moved from Persia to Russia 3 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Kazakh S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Russia 8 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Kazakh S.S.R. 5 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 10 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Russia Combat - Japanese Battle in Evenki National Okrug Japanese attack with 8 infantry Americans defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 8 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 : 0/8 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Evenki National Okrug Japanese roll dice for 7 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 3 : 2/7 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Evenki National Okrug Japanese win, taking Evenki National Okrug from Russians with 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Russia Japanese attack with 5 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 10 infantry British defend with 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Americans defend with 3 fighters and 7 infantry; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 3 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 0/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 5 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 10 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 9/22 hits, 8.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 5 fighters and 12 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 7/17 hits, 7.67 expected hits 7 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Russia 7 infantry owned by the Americans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Russia Japanese roll dice for 5 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 3 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 9/15 hits, 7.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 5 fighters and 3 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 4/8 hits, 4.67 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Russia 3 infantry owned by the Russians, 3 fighters owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in Russia Japanese captures 20PUs while taking Russians capital Japanese win, taking Russia from Russians with 4 armour, 1 bomber and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 72 Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 10 infantry Casualties for Americans: 3 fighters and 7 infantry Casualties for British: 2 fighters and 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in Kazakh S.S.R. Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry Russians defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R. Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakh S.S.R. Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R. Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in Kazakh S.S.R., round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in Kazakh S.S.R., round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakh S.S.R. Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 infantry moved from India to Persia 1 fighter moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Persia 4 fighters moved from Russia to Persia 3 infantry moved from French Indo China to India 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to India 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from Russia to Yakut S.S.R. 1 armour and 8 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 1 armour, 8 infantry and 5 transports moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 4 transports moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone 1 armour and 6 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 1 armour and 6 infantry moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria 1 armour and 8 infantry moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China Place Units - Japanese 1 armour and 15 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 54 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.83 Russians regular : -0.33 Russians AA : -0.83

Took Russia as requested, though the Germans are pissed the Japanese are in Moscow.

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@Martin said in Martin (Axis +6) vs TGC (Allies), Classic Tournament Game #2:

Look at my dice, when I attack Karelia with Germany in my running game with Dawgoneit:

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So my dice in our match were OK, LOL

=(

@Ragnell804

Game History

Round: 17 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 16 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 15 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium 13 infantry moved from Hanover to Ruhr 2 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia 13 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover 2 infantry moved from Silesia to Galicia 2 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine 4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Moscow to Ukraine Combat - Germans Germans creates battle in territory Alsace Germans creates battle in territory Bulgaria Battle in Belgium Germans attack with 7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 16 infantry British defend with 7 infantry; French defend with 9 artilleries and 1 infantry; Americans defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 16 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 11/24 hits, 11.50 expected hits French roll dice for 9 artilleries and 12 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 12/21 hits, 10.50 expected hits 12 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belgium 4 infantry owned by the Americans and 7 infantry owned by the British lost in Belgium French and Germans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Germans: 12 infantry Casualties for British: 7 infantry Casualties for Americans: 4 infantry Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 16 infantry placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 48 PUs; end with 49 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 1.50 Germans regular : -0.50

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