We have played a couple of global games and with different Pacific setups suggested by Larry.
The latest (with added Chinese inf, NB in NSW, etc) is probably good for Pacific, but may cause a too weak axis in global. Tommorrow I am going to do a new global game.
Any suggestions on what setup I should use?
Thanks!
Can you move as Italy from Egypt to empty British Jordan (with a tank) and then into Pro-Axis Iraq?
Did you place the 4 free inf in Paris for France?
I reckon you are not a piano player?
:)
I agree with the attack value of subs and the comparison with bombers is really true. Sometimes I need to land a lonely bomber somewhere on its own and then it gets killed by an inf and art, or something. Same with subs.
German scientists having a chance of discovering a mystic artifact every turn which boosts morale (+1 on attacks)……
:-)
But seriously. The Aden naval base may have been important IRL, but then Malta should have an airbase, Holland should have a naval base, Sweden should have a lot of fighters and not only infantry, the US and UK should be able to attack simultaniously, Norway should be worth less IPC then Spain, Holland/Belgium/etc, etc, etc, etc.
I would wait a turn and build an IC in a useful place. If you build it in J1, then it will mostly be used against China and perhaps Russia. HK and Singapore are way better options. From Malaya you can be in India in one turn (with fleet), in Australia, all of DEI and back to Japan quite fast. Land units are also quite close to Burma road (Chinese lifeline).
So if you decide to attack the UK on J2 then I would build an IC on J3 in Malaya or Kwantung. If you are going to wait longer then China (and perhaps Russia) may become too much of a pain and you need to transport units to the mainland.
My next game as Japan I will attack UK on J2 in Malaya. It gives you +3, UK -3 and ANZAC NO lost. And it is arguably the best place for an IC. For the attack I need a lot of transports, because I also want to take most of the other prices, like the DEI island, Phillipines and/or Kwantung. This gives your economy a major boost and the UK loses a lot of IPC income. I would also prefer to take DEI island from the UK instead of the Dutch controlled islands. You can take those later and the UK islands work both ways (more for you, less for them).
In all previous versions we played with the houserule that when a capital is taken the victim must pay the IPC value of that country to the conquerer, but keeps the rest and keeps getting income. Then the UK can still build in Canada, or somewhere.
With this version however, Germany needs the IPC from capturing Paris and France can’t be allowed to keep building elsewhere (Normandy or a conquered neutral).
In our houserule a succesful sealion doens’t mean the end of the allies. Here it does.
Sure about that? Even with a 65 ipc US and a 30 ipc Russia against a 60-70 ipc Germany and a 30 ipc Italy? Seems about equal.
Yes. The USA won’t have a staging ground for their troops and Germany has way less ground to cover with coastal defense. And having the UK as a sub pen is incredibly powerful.
But apart from that, the most important reason is that the Axis start with a way larger army. If both sides have an equal amount of cash the allies are doomed. They won’t outproduce the axis to make up for their fewer battle equipment. And the Americans can’t invest all in inf or tanks, like Germany, but have to build transport and a lot of destroyers to transport those troops safely to Europe/Africa.
I agree. Make the US spend at least some IPC on the Pacific theatre. If not, well, then you will have a nice income from Hawaii and/or Alaska.
In all previous versions we played with the houserule that when a capital is taken the victim must pay the IPC value of that country to the conquerer, but keeps the rest and keeps getting income. Then the UK can still build in Canada, or somewhere.
With this version however, Germany needs the IPC from capturing Paris and France can’t be allowed to keep building elsewhere (Normandy or a conquered neutral).
In our houserule a succesful sealion doens’t mean the end of the allies. Here it does.
Nope, you can only land units at allies’ tt when at war. As Russia you are not yet at war (unless g1 attack on Russia).
I think the +6 IPC is worth more for Italy then for the USA. Going from 20 to 26 is relatively better then from 82 to 88.
Yep. And Russia will take over Korea and threaten Manchuria.
If I was Britain and Japan saved all its cash then I would seriously consider attacking Japan. That would depend mostly on where Japan moves its ships, of course.
But without the new set up it is much easier to win as Japan, so I don’t know what I would do with the UK in that case.
With the new suggested set up (7 planes less) you do need some more inf. And the times I relied upon mere airpower I was never able to kill of China effectively. At some point most of your airforce will fight off western powers and then the fact that you don’t have enough inf/art will give you headaches. Britain comes into China and China itself will come back from the initial poundings.
I often wait with buying a minor IC until I have Kwangtung or Malaya. Those are IMO the best spots for it. Both have a naval base and can turn into a major.
Harassing ANZAC really helps. You only need to kill the DD with an airplane and you are game there.
That’s the first thing that came up to me. Follow-ups. Germany needs a lot of inf and art at the Russian border. They are not getting there if you only build them on G3, or something. Then they will only be effective on G5, or something.
Same for Japan. You just need trannies and cargo to land on the mainland.
Yes, one sub can reach it and that one should be moved there. Combine it with a massive move to Carolines and from there you can pick Hawaii, most ANZAC territories, most of DEI, Phillipines, etc.
It doesn’t say Euro-Axis. But I think that was the intention.
But everything that prevents a Russo-Japanese war should be promoted. In my current opinion attacking Russia as Japan J1 is a no-brainer.
I think a solution to this is to give either defender a one time 6 inf bonus if attacked by the other.
The very fact that your opponents react on the fact that you are saving money is worth it. Everything that distracts them from their own plans is good. If Germany places all its airplanes at the coast and subs closeby to attack a fleet that you could build is good. Then the Russians have more chance of holding. Then you can always build your units at Canada or South Africa and no harm done. Or build a massive airforce and the turn after that only CA’s.