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So who would be your top 10 generals and admirals of World War 2? Put them in order if you can (it’s quite tough). If you could also make a top 5, that would be appreciated. This list also includes all naval, army, and air force commanders regardless of rank.

Personally my picks would be (in no particular order, I just can’t decide):

Erwin Rommel

Jisaburo Ozawa

Takeo Kurita

Walther Model

Erich Von Manstein

William “Bull” Halsey

Raymond Spurance

Tamechi Hara

Chester Nimitz

Georgy Zhukov

Writing this out, there is not enough space for all the generals I want to put, such as Bernard Montgomery, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ernest King, and many Soviet generals.

@barnee

Perhaps, there was a plan for that-but there probably wouldn’t be any massive massacre (in proportion to what was historically done) by the Heer or Einsatzgruppen, as the military commanders would probably say that it won’t be good for discipline to treat at least 5 countries (the Baltic States, Belarus, and Ukraine) and a nice chunk of Russia as a gigantic free fire zone. And seeing the resistance to Germany in the actual war, it wouldn’t have been so hard for a massive rebellion to start, followed by a massive Soviet invasion.

Hitler actually had a plan to deport and enslave the peoples of the Soviet Union, part of Generalplan Ost:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

This would have had to be take this part more slowly. This might not have even been done at all until Germany conquered enough of the Soviet Union.

I guess we talked enough about the east-how would the war with the west go? As I said in my scenario, Hitler did not declare war on the US, and the Second Battle Of El Alamein did not happen (the British only won because of Shermans and Grants, which would not have come in this scenario). Rommel would have stayed in Egypt. The Allied victory in the Battle Of The Atlantic would have taken more time. Vichy France and Spain would have joined the Axis, causing chaos for the British in the Mediterranean. Japan would probably have surrendered in 1944. So what happens then? Would the US have entered the war after the truce? Would Britain have sued for peace after the fall of Gibraltar and possibly Malta. And would the Soviet Union have dared to go to war with Germany again if Britain sued for peace? So many possibilities! I hope to hear your perspective on this!

@aadudecphdk1981

I’m an ocean away, but I’m just curious the price you are charging this for. Thank you!

@imperious-leader

It’s actually possible for an armistice to happen in 1942-all the way to mid-1944, as some weird Soviet peace overtures were offered in neutral countries. These weren’t anything serious, but if the condition I outlined had happened, they might have been pursued much more vigourously. Hitler would probably have accepted, at the advise of his generals and Luftwaffe officers (to replace Barbarossa’s and Case Blue’s losses), economists, and “race scientists” (to consolidate the newly conquered lands and peoples in the east). Hitler was far more rational during the war before the failure at Stalingrad. Of course, it would only have been a truce as it would have left Germany far too deep in the Soviet Union. Perhaps it would have also included access to Soviet oil. With the Soviet Union still quite strong and rebuilding with the factories in the Urals, Hitler would have had to do his extermination plan slowly, to prevent a massive revolt in conjunction with a resumption of Soviet attacks. But what happens then? That is the question.

@abworsham4

Thank you for responding!

For a more successful 1942 campaign, to start, Germany should have encircled Stalingrad (like Leningrad, but there is a problem of overextension), or following the original Case Blue plan of cutting the supply line on on the Volga, and then turn all of Army Group South to invade the Caucausus-accomplishing objectives on at a time rather than simieataneously. Other than that I haven’t go any other ideas. Perhaps further development is necessary.

@barnee

I feel the same way too.

Soon after the Battle Of France, Hitler is informed by the Devil that on the day that when Operation Sealion begins, a massive land bridge (stretching from Pas-De Calais to the western edge of Normandy) connecting France to Britain will magically appear. With this information, Hitler immediately orders the suspending of Luftwaffe operations over Britain to conserve aircraft for the invasion (that way, if pilots are shot down, there is more of a chance for them to be recovered). This information is not found out via Ultra, and Hitler informs only his top generals, admirals, and Luftwaffe officers of this information. No civilian cargo ships are converted to transports, the resources used for the conversion used to produce additional army equipment.

With the striking power of the entire German army catching the British by surprise, could Germany have won the war? Thank you!

Re: 1944 Germany's Last Stand

His idea is quite interesting, but I don’t have much interest for it. I do feel bad for his story, though. I wonder is anyone interested in this though? This seems to have gone under the radar of most members on the forum.

@grumpy-pig

How far can you you ship? Thank you!

Let’s say Germany and Japan suddenly hate each other (magical intervention). Then, all pieces of land not directly controlled by Germany before the invasion of the Balkans magically disappear (this includes Axis allies such as Italy, Romania, Hungary, and even the puppet of Slovakia) along with all the people there. The exepecption are all courntries that border the Baltic Sea. The palces that are not directly controlled by Germany (such as Sweden, Finland, and the Soviet Union) will turn into impassable zones (anyone who step foot into those places instantly disappear). All German units in the disappeared places move back to Germany.

After that, the Japan home islands replace where Great Britain used to be. The IJN moves to the Atlantic. The IJA in China is moved to France. All German units in France move to Germany.

Now that Germany and Japan are now near each other and hate each other, who will win in a hypothetical war? There will be supply ships that are magically created, fueled, repaired, and crewed carrying supplies such as steel, oil and all other materials needed to conduct war to both sides. The supply ships for Japan magically appear in the Atlantic and the German supply ships magically appear in the Baltic Sea. Germany’s strength is their strength before the invasion of the Balkans in real life. Japan’s strength is their strength before the Battle Of Midway.

Now this is a very complicated way to pit World War 2 era Germany and Japan against each other, but it can be a cool scenario.

So who wins in the hypothetical war? What are the specifics? Thank you for responding in advance!

@general-5-stars

Thank you for responding!

Can you please expand more on what you are saying? Thank you!

Let’s say Hitler did not declare war on the US. After that, Hitler planned a better strategy for Case Blue. What strategy would that have been? After a victorious German breakthrough in the extreme south of the Soviet Union, Stalin sues for peace, Vichy France and Spain join the Axis, Rommel stays in Egypt without Montgomery having the resources to breakthrough at El Alamein without the Sherman tanks. What happens next? Thank you for responding in advance!

One of the books I read on the conference has this opinion:

“Take Munich. A disaster, right? But since when does a peace conference that actually produces peace a disaster?” Note: I don’t own the book, so it may not be the exact words, but this is basically what it says.

The book also mentions that British was not strong enough to take on Germany, Italy and Japan, so the British decided to remove one of them by appeasement. It also asks the question of whether it would have been more honorable (and morally correct) to do appeasement or fight a war that Britain will lose? The book says that the mistake of Britain and France was not appeasement, but letting Germany get so powerful that by 1938 there was no choice but appeasement.

What do you think of this view? Thank you for responding in advance!

@general-5-stars

I don’t know which one you are talking about-I have already created multiple games, notably “What if the Soviet Union joined the Axis and Japan joined the Allies?”. Or are you talking about my attempts to make the game more accurate? Thank you!

@general-5-stars

What is that? Thank you!

@general-5-stars

What does the “F” in the “GF40” in your post mean? Thank you!

Who would win in a fight on a coast (on paved roads) between 100 production models of the Ratte tank and one Yamato class battleship? No movement is allowed, no other units are allowed, both sides never break down, and both sides are fully loaded with ammunition. The distance is a Yamato class battleship’s point blank range. Yamato can fire it’s broadside. So basically it is a massive gun duel between both sides, until one side is destroyed. If the Ratte tanks lose, how many Ratte tanks would it take to beat down the Yamato? Thank you!

@midnight_reaper

Cool! This will be close!

Two big, slow tanks, duking it out, almost like battleship fights (or not)-no other units (infantry, artillery, support units, aircraft, and others) are not allowed. Both sides are fully fuelled and loaded with ammunition. Both tanks never break down. Both tank crews are equal in capability. Who wins? Thank you!

Have you ever heard of the book called If The Allies Had Fallen? It examines many what ifs of World War 2, with all of them very grounded in reality. A lot of the chapters are written very differently, from basically scholarly analysis to what the history books would have said had the timeline changed in the way described. If you had read the book, what do you think? Thank you!