When do you get your NO IPC’s?
E.g. US is able to declare war on T3 so do they get their NO at the collect income point which is at the end of their turn so can be spent on turn 4 or is it at the point they are at war so the 3rd turn? The way I have read the rules it’s at the Collect Income stage so I can’t spend the extra till T4.
Has war been declared on the states? If not you are not allowed to leave the coastal seazones of the US. You are allowed to do a longe range patrol into seazone 102.
I’ve just realised this last night. MAde a couple of novice errors as still getting up to speed on the rules as first game on 1940.
UST1
Buy 2 Transports for Atlantic 2 Carriers for Pacific and 2 Infantry in E. US
Move Transport/Destroer to Iceland
Move bomber/fighter in Eastern/Central US to IcelandUsa can not move into iceland or venture too far into the atlantic before Turn 4. It can, if it has been attacked before
This is exactly what I did in the end!! Identical. Really stuck for T2. Will move the newly purchased Transports to Iceland. Really want to get more troops on to Europe or Africa. Currently wondering if I can position some troops either at Gibralter or near Brazil and (with the help of naval bases) get them across to either north africa or southern france/italy within a further turn.
It’s also how i go about protecting those transports from german air attack.
Why do people still leave 1 Russian Inf in border territories? If Germany is gonna take it anyway, why not just leave the territory empty?
So Germany can’t blitz.
Was fairly sure that was the case. Think he got confused about the rule about upgrading minor IC’s which require the territory to have a value of 3 or more.
Firstly, I wanted to check the rules on this but I dropped a minor IC in Egypt and my friend has since informed me that it’s an illegal move as I can only put one down where the territory has a value of 3 or more. Is this correct?
Secondly, following on from my last thread, I’ve since played out the full turns and the following has happened.
Germany only has normandy.
Italy has rest of France.
UK Navy from 110/111 is intact.
IC in Egypt
96/97 Italy Fleet is dead.
Japan have not declared war but made small inroads in China and moved all fleet to Sz20 (with the exception of what started in Caroline Island)
UK has activated Greece
Italy has split force from Ethiopia and has taken Syria.
Germany have activated Finland
1 loaded US Transport sits at Iceland
Russia has retreated leaving 1 infantry in all bordering territories. 18 Infantry are in Novogorod and about 13 in Ukraine.
UK Europe has put an IC in Egypt and put all fleet from 110/111 in Sz119 with Transport/Destroyer from Canada and other Transport.
UK Pacific hasn’t done much except buy mech infantry and artillery and also put troops on Celebs. ANZAC have taken Java and bought a destroyer.
US have bought 2 carriers for Pacific and 2 Transports for Atlantic. Also moved the 2 transports from Pacific and are in Sz64. No German subs are left.
Intention is for Russia to reinforce again with 12 more infantry. Will put 3 in each IC and will start moving some down to NW Persia. Will move some troops up to the frontline to be ready to push Germany.
UK will buy a Naval Base for Iceland. (Allows Transports from US at Iceland to reach Norway/Denmark/Holland/Normandy in 1 Turn. 2 Mech Infantry would be purchased and deployed in Egypt to assist with Italian force. Unsure on rest. (Have total of 39 to spend)
US intention is to move Transports to US and load up. Can then reach Gibraltar. Want to buy 2 Carriers to accompany those Transports. From Gibraltar it can reach Italy where my friend has left no troops in Northern Italy
Major concern is ability to defend this fleet. Won’t be able to attack Italy till T4. Alternative is to put it at British Guiana nr Brazil. Uk will need to purchase a naval base and furthest I can reach is Normandy or Tunisia. Less protection required then for the fleet.
We are both novice players so please ear that in mind!
This is my latest thinking.
UST1
Buy 2 Transports for Atlantic 2 Carriers for Pacific and 2 Infantry in E. US
Move Transport/Destroer to Iceland
Move bomber/fighter in Eastern/Central US to Iceland
UKT1 Buy Carrier deploy in 110 IC in Egypt
Attack Sz96/97 land Aircraft at Malta
Consolidate Navy in Sz 110
Move Transport/Destroyer from Canada to Iceland
Pull back from Alexandria to Egypt leaving 1 infantry
Attack with Med Transport to Ethiopia
RussiaT2
Buy 6 Mech Infantry for Novogorod/Ukraine
Move 12 Infantry to Karelia
Move 12 Infantry to Bessarabia
Move 6 Infantry to Western Ukraine
Move 6 Infantry to Belarus
If Germany have declared war and taken Karelia/Vyborg I will either re-take or just consolidate in IC Territories
UST2
Move both Transports to Iceland
UKT2
Buy Naval Base in Iceland & 2 Tanks/1 Infantry for Egypt
Attack from Sz110 to Norway. Land 2 units, attack with air and bombardment. Land fighters on Carrier.
Move air units from Malta to Egypt. Possible attack in Alexandria if Italy taken on T1.
Russia T3
Attack Finland from Karelia
Attack Romania from Bressarabia
UST3
Attack from Iceland into Normandy with 3 transports full plus Fighter/Bomber
UKT3
Transport from Iceland to Normandy and unload. Fighters land in Normandy.
This assumes:
That I can take out Ethiopia in 1 go.
Can hold Egypt at ItalyT2
Germany doesn’t declare on Russia/US before Turn 3
Germany doesn’t target UK Navy in Turn 2. If UK Navy dies in T3 it almost doesn’t matter as Normandy attack won’t have bombardment and will be comign from Iceland which seemingly looks far away.
It also allows US to choose between fllow up in Norway, Denmark, Holland, W Germany or original target of Normandy (because it already has an IC)
The objective of attacking Norway in UKT2 is to stop Germany from delcaring on Russia and attacking through Finland.
The IC in Egypt T1 is based on the fact that if I deploy 3 Mech Infantry in SA, it will take them 2 turns to get to Egypt. Even if I don’t attack Ethiopia in T1, they can’t attack till T2 and by which time, I can add 2 Tanks and 1 Infantry to the defence plus any air assets I wish to move.
If I take out Ethiopia and Italian Navy in 96/97 then Italy won’t be strong enough to take Egypt even with reinforcements.
I could land in Greece instead, put 2 units there. I would have enough to hold Egypt against an attack from both sides in N Africa (if I deploy 2 tanks, 1 Infantry as well as land a fighter/bomber there). That still leaves enough to win against Albania whether attcking or defending and I could then activate Yugoslavia in T3. I can’t see Germany attacking if I am attacking Norway in T2. The only downside is that it will present a very nice target to Germany who may decide it can win that one instead of going against the Navy in Sz110.
If I am attacked by al of Germany’s Air (6 Fighters, 1 Tac Bomber, 1 Strat Bomber) with 5 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter and 1 Tac fighter, I will lose. It’s about 65% in my favour if I add the Strat Bomber and Fighter (assuming they survive against Italy’s fleet in T1) but 76% against without those 2 extra units.
The reason for leaving UK Fleet in Sz 110 is so if attacked, I can scramble and add 3 Fighters to the defense but hopefully will just deter a German attack. Anything it does will be costly to us both.
In my calculator, with 2 Battleships, 3 Cruisers, Carrier, 1 French Fighter (which I can land after UK’s turn but before Germany’s) and 3 scrambled UK fighters, I have an 80% chance to win. With 2 Destroyers instead of the Carrier and 1 less fighter, it’s 62%. This is if Germany commits every aircraft it has and the Battleship/Cruiser it has left.
If I were to
@Eggman:
Very, very, rarely I will use the Med TT to activate Greece to provide an alternate landing spot for the SZ97 Carrier air.
Haven’t thought about this move. I kind of like it if the sealion threat is small. that small force in Greece (6-7 land units and 3-4 air units could be a massive thorn in the side of Germany/Italy; especially if it was a G1 attack on Russia.
There has been no G1 attack on Russia. If I do that, there would be no attack on Ethiopia and the Transport will die. Wouldn’t Itay throw all airsupport and the 3 units at it? Germany could follow up (admittedly with no canon fodder) and take them all out. UK couldn’t withstand those losses where as Germany and Italy could. Could move French fighter there so total of maybe 4-5 Fighters, Tab Bomber and 6 Infantry.
It all depends if he scrambles or not!
I’m a little unsure what my strategy should be in the Pacific but I’m hoping to contain Japan and keep the Dutch Islands in Allied control and allow the UK to focus on ground troops against Japan if I can.
Looking to move ANZAC and UK Pac fleet into same square and just out of Japanese Reach. Move All US Pac fleet to Hawaii or perhaps just a square or two towards S. America but still reachable of Queensland. In US T2 move newly acquired Carriers to join up around Hawaii and then T3 have them all at Queensland.
On the Atlantic, the alternative to going Norwary is to support the British in the Med and go after Italy. Will take 2 turns to get to Southern France or Italy. Southern France has a Minor IC. I will have air assets from the British already there and if I put an IC in Egypt then the UK will be about to assist and funnel troops. The more I can land, the more it takes the pressure off the USSR and I am confident I can make small steps forward on the German/Soviet front.
Another alternative is Normandy. Easier to get to and less chance of German bombers and easier for UK to deploy troops into as well.
If I go Norway which I’ve been leaning towards, I have 2 options. Either let the British take it in T2 and hope they keep it so I can land troops there in T3 or wait and allow US to take it in T3 and follow up with UK troops so it can be kept with IC deployed in T4. I could do the latter and just soften the zone up in T2 so attack with enough troops to reduce the force in Norway but still attack with US in T3.
I guess China tries to retake Yunnan and I don#t know what Anzac does.
@Eggman:
I will remove the Russian troops from NW Persia so no big deal. :)
What do you mean by 98 or 92 stack?
How can I get London Fighters to Sz97? By my calculation only the Strategic Bomber can make it to Sz97. There is zero sealion threat.
It is exactly 5 spaces to reach SZ97 from London, so you can bring them provided you also move in a Carrier for them to land on.
What happens if the carrier dies? I may move 1 to assist but I am pretty sure my friend will wipe out anything in that square with either Italy (from Sz95) or with Germany by Air.
I will remove the Russian troops from NW Persia so no big deal. :)
What do you mean by 98 or 92 stack?
How can I get London Fighters to Sz97? By my calculation only the Strategic Bomber can make it to Sz97. There is zero sealion threat.
How do you have Russian troops in NW Persia if Germany hasn’t attacked yet?
Is that not allowed? I will move them back. First 1940 Global game for both my friend and I so possibly a mistake.
Ethiopia isn’t that dicey:
2 Inf, 1 Mech Inf, 1 Arm, 1 Cruiser shot against: (should get at least 1 hit, if not 2 the first round)
2 Inf, 1 Art (should get 1 hit first roundProbably win with 1 Mech, 1 Arm and much less Italian headache in Africa.
I did think for a minute that I could go for Tobruk but it would be even numbers and there is the Italian Navy in Sz 96 as well. Back to Ethiopia then.
I’ll attack Ethiopia with 1 Mech Infantry, 2 Infantry and 1 Artillery and move all troops from Alexandria to Egypt and leave just 1. Will then land all aircraft from Sz96/97 battle in Egypt.
Just one question. If I attack Sz97 can he scramble?
I will have 2 fighters, 1 Strat Bomber and 1 Tac Bomber, 1 Carrier, 1 Destroyer and 1 Cruiser to attack 96/97. How should I divide up my force? Was thinking
Carrier, Cruiser, Strat Bomber, Tac Bomber, Fighter vs 97 (1 cruiser, 1 battleship)
Destroyer, Fighter, vs 96 (1 destroyer)
If he scrambles in 97, I don’t fancy my chances.
Thanks for that. My last queston on UK is what to do about Ethiopia. My first thought is use transport in Med to take 2 units and from Egypt and the 1 from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan which is a straight 3 v 3 matchup.
I did then consider using the transport at India to move 2 troops into support. My second thought is to use that Transport to load troops on to Celebers and Sumatra (with ANZAC taking Java) and using Cruiser to do bombardment at Ethiopia to even the odds. Or do I just wait to allow troops deployed in SA to make their way up and attack in due course. In that case, I would be more inclined to take troops off Malta and move them to Alexandria or Egypt to hem the Italians in at Tobruk.
Other options ot my original plan for ANZAC is instead of buying troops. Just buy a Destroyer every turn. and position in DEI with British Fleet. By T3 I should have a US Navy nearby. Depends when Japan goes after UK/ANZAC.
If your opponent is inexperienced, he will likely disperse the Ethiopian troops (easier to pick them up on UK2, Ethiopia is a dicey battle). Activate Persia with your Egypt transport and activate Sumatra with the Indian transport. Don’t put the indian oceal British fleet in range of the Japanese fleet, or they will be wiped out. � These ships are better used in the Med and you have the option to return in the Pacific eventually.
USSR already has 4 units in NW Persia so I can activate Persia next round. As UK go before Italy, I can either attack Tobruk whre the bulk of his force is or Ethiopia. Both myself and my opponent are inexperienced (as you can all tell!) so he may well split his Ethiopia Force.
A transport cannot land troops in two different territories, even in noncombat. Personally, I’d rather use the Med Transport to hit Ethiopia with 1 Inf, 1 Arm along with the Mech Inf from Egypt, Cruiser support, and Inf in Anglo-Egypt Sudan.
Damn! THought I may have struck gold on that one! I can’t pick up troops from Malta for Ethiopia so back to my previous plan!
Thanks for that. My last queston on UK is what to do about Ethiopia. My first thought is use transport in Med to take 2 units and from Egypt and the 1 from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan which is a straight 3 v 3 matchup.
I did then consider using the transport at India to move 2 troops into support. My second thought is to use that Transport to load troops on to Celebers and Sumatra (with ANZAC taking Java) and using Cruiser to do bombardment at Ethiopia to even the odds. Or do I just wait to allow troops deployed in SA to make their way up and attack in due course. In that case, I would be more inclined to take troops off Malta and move them to Alexandria or Egypt to hem the Italians in at Tobruk.
Brainwave. Use the Transport in a Non COmbat turn to collect the 2 from Malta and move them to Yugoslavia and Greece. Pick up an extra 4 IPC and activate an additional 9 Infantry. Will lose the Transport next round am sure from German Air. This assumes that I have managed to destroy Italian Navy in Sz 96/97. Will move most of troops from Alexandria to Egypt leaving just a few infantry there. Will make 3 Mech Infantry in SA to push up towards Ethiopia/Egypt. Will try and use Aircraft in Malta to support any attacks against Italians. Soviet T3 I would have taken Iraq and will send further troops (mech Infantry) from Volgograd down to support initially. No real attacks on Italians in Africa in UK T1 and probably not UK T2. Hope I can move Med Airforce to Egypt UKT2 to make it difficult to take should Italians decide to sqeeze.
Thanks for that. My last queston on UK is what to do about Ethiopia. My first thought is use transport in Med to take 2 units and from Egypt and the 1 from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan which is a straight 3 v 3 matchup.
I did then consider using the transport at India to move 2 troops into support. My second thought is to use that Transport to load troops on to Celebers and Sumatra (with ANZAC taking Java) and using Cruiser to do bombardment at Ethiopia to even the odds. Or do I just wait to allow troops deployed in SA to make their way up and attack in due course. In that case, I would be more inclined to take troops off Malta and move them to Alexandria or Egypt to hem the Italians in at Tobruk.
Other options ot my original plan for ANZAC is instead of buying troops. Just buy a Destroyer every turn. and position in DEI with British Fleet. By T3 I should have a US Navy nearby. Depends when Japan goes after UK/ANZAC.
@captain:
Is the US at war already?
If they aren’t at war then you won’t be able to use them in Europe until one of the axis powers declares war on them or on US4.
So your plan of having US attack Norway on US2 might have to wait. But that will give you time to buy some more transports and the ground units to fill them.
You’re right it’s not. I had forgotten. I’ve been used to playing 1942.
The question is how much investment I should make on Atlantic/Pacific. I only have the 1 Transport in the Atlant. It takes 2 turns to get anything from Eastern US to Norway. So do I buy in T1 in prep for T3. I could just buy the 1 Carrier, Destroyer and Sub for Pacific. Then 2 Transports, 1 Infantry and 1 Artillery in T1. T2 I could buy a further Carrier for the Pacific and 1 Fighter, 2 Tac Bombers and another artillery.
I’m a little unsure what my strategy should be in the Pacific but I’m hoping to contain Japan and keep the Dutch Islands in Allied control and allow the UK to focus on ground troops against Japan.
On the Atlantic, the alternative to going Norwary is to support the British in the Med and go after Italy. Will take 2 turns to get to Southern France or Italy. Southern France has a Minor IC. I will have air assets from the British already there and if I put an IC in Egypt then the UK will be about to assist and funnel troops. The more I can land, the more it takes hte pressure off the USSR and I am confident I can make small steps forward on the German/Soviet front.
If the Canadian transport is alive, I would move all the fleet to 109 and add one carrier to it (2 transports are a sufficient threat for UK’s second turn). I would then build some troops in South Africa with the 12 IPC remaining (3 mechs or 1 tank / 1 mech).
Build your navy to be invincible (no need for subs unless you can convoy Italy). Only then buy transports once you master the seas.
You should be able to keep Italy off Gibraltar with your fleet, and Egypt should be safe if you pump out land troops from South Africa + an IC in Egypt.
Taking Norway is a good plan, but it is more important to contain Italy in the short run while at least threatening Germany with increasing pressure.
With Russia, you can afford to build up artillery in Leningrad / Ukraine and some mechanized troops in Moscow. Be prepared to push back the Germans (the bad rolls should give you a turn or so of respite) and take Scandinavia with the Russians.
Thanks for this. Just to clarify moves then.
US T1 Move Transport towards UK.
UK T1 Attack Norway which will be taken back. Move Canadian Transport which is closer towards UK. Buy Carrier but no Fighter. Buy Troops for SA. Use Med Transport to land troops in Ethiopia. Attack Sz 96/97 with Med Fleet and Air.
France T1 Attack Sz 95.
US T2 Amphib Assault Norway.
UK T2 Follow up in Norway. Buy IC for Egypt.
US T3 Buy IC for Norway.
In USSR, I had pulled back and left only 1 Infantry in any territory bordering Germany. I have about 18 Infantry in Novogorod and 12/14 in Ukraine. I hope the UK will occupy Germany and that my friend won’t declare on USSR so I will then start moving troops to the front line. I bought 12 Infantry last time. I intend to buy 6 Artillery (3 each for Ukraine/Novogorod), After that I am tempted between some Air or Mech Infantry. I may try and send some further units down to Persia. I already have 2 Infantry/1 Mech Infantry/1 Tank in NW PErsia. I intend to activate Persia and then attack Iraq and be able to lend some troops to Egypt.
Only risk is I can see my friend trying to take out my Med fleet with German air on G2. Is that an issue.
What options should I look at for UK Pac and US purchases then?
Currently considering 3 Infantry/2 Artillery for India and try to move troops from India to Burma and try to land some troops on to Samatra. I was also considering pulling Battleship from Malaya to Sumatra just so it’s a little bit more out of range of Jap fleet.
US I was considering spending my 52 IPC on 2 Carriers, 1 Destroyer and 2 Subs all for Pacific. Moving all PAcific Fleet to Hawaii T1 and then to Queensland (Sz54) T2 and moving fighters down towards queensland on T2.
China I have no idea. I guess Japan will take Yunnan T1 so I should take that back. Buy 4 Infantry and place hopefully back in Yunnan I guess?
ANZAC, buy 2 Infantry 1 Artillery. Not much they can do I guess.