Posts made by Sproit

@axis_roll:

@Sproit:

You don’t need to say someone has black and white glasses, this doesn’t make sense, everyone has it’s own view, so everyone wears glasses, satisfied?

“Black and white glasses” means that there is no middle ground, no gray area.

It’s either on or off, up or down….

She is very adamant (almost to a fault) in her opinions that she rarely (if ever) sways in her opinion, even when more than one person shows her opinion to be less than factual (read the German nick pick economizer thread.)

And, you know what, I am ok with that if you have shown you have a basis for your opinions, like you are a good player or have a good understanding of a subject matter in which you profess ‘expert knowledge’.

However, I just do not think that seven games of A&ARe qualifies any player as a source of absolute knowledge such as “The allies have no chance in Enhanced”

And I use capital letters as another form of emphasis besides bold or italics

You don’t have to explain your sentence, I know what it means, I was just fooling around with the saying. ;)

Everyone has it’s own view on things, some might swear with defense, others go always for the attack no matter what,
So? They do what they like, and if you don’t like it, don’t do it,
I don’t believe Jenn ever forces you to play just like she, would be pretty odd eh? ;)

I think the game works well enough, and not every Seazone or land area should be in war always,
The WO2 was fought just on a couple of places, they didn’t fight on every edge of the world. ;)

It doesn’t matter how big your force is, they still move 2. :P (haha kidding ya)

But he it could make the game also a bit more fun, to just annoy the US player with lots of Axis activity there, might cause a laugh after all,

And that’s what this game is about, to have fun, aye?!

Can’t stay your last point is a lie,

Still I doubt if you have serious threat in Sz60 with Japan when the US only goes after Germany and leaves their Navy in the Atlantic.

But still, Japan should grab its infantry and fight hard against ground forces, the navy is just an extra way to create more IPC, by taking Australia, New-Zealand, Africa? And of course shore bombing India with your Battleships (and destroyers if you got the right tech, not worth to buy it but still, you are allowed to. ;) )

Guys,

I just think we are loosing the point of this topic,

Axis_Roll, You don’t need to use capitol letters to make your point clear,
You don’t need to say someone has black and white glasses, this doesn’t make sense, everyone has it’s own view, so everyone wears glasses, satisfied?

So please just keep smiling, there are more important things in the world than this forum, or even this game. ;)

I think building 1 extra is enough, but not in the UK1, but after that.

As said before you should focus on the RAF, Royal Navy and of course the infantry.
You do not gain respect with transports, respect can be a good key to victory, having your enemy fear you, it’s all psychological, they fear you, they retreat quicker, and do not attack you that hard. ;)

So those 5 transports will do just fine, and letting you lose one if needed (while you never want to lose any)

Ok thanks for that answer! Will take that for truth. ;)

Me for US playing, I would only build anything there indeed when UK did India IC, and Russia is supporting from behind with inf.

But that is another story, lets stay a bit on topic. :)

@Cmdr:

As I said, Sproit, Japan should have some cash on hand to build a counter navy.  If you are that advanced with the Japanese fleet, odds are you own Africa uncontested, the middle east with a few ICs put up, China and the eastern Russian states to include Novosibirsk.  That means Japan’s in the 50+ range.

Ok,

Only when you have enough IPC coming in every turn you can just leave it undefended,

That way it sounds better, not waisting money or navy power with doing nothing, but buying it when needed. I buy that story Jenni. ;)

@cyan:

@Sproit:

I think building a fleet there is not going to lead anywhere,

Germany retreats (well I would at least) when you build an IC in Norway from the Atlantic, and keep all units focuses now on the entire Russian line, with additional US forces,

Building this IC, would you still build the one in Sinkiang?!

who builds in Sikiang anyway? YOu need an indian IC there first

I was aiming on the US. ;)

I think Germany should stay fighting Russians until Japan has enough ships to come to the Atlantic,  then they should invest in their navy and build up together very strongly,

Until then they should just try to hide their fleet a bit, so the investment is not that big when Japan comes by.

Btw, if Germany owns the Suez, can Japan use it? I would say yes, but is it a no?

I think building a fleet there is not going to lead anywhere,

Germany retreats (well I would at least) when you build an IC in Norway from the Atlantic, and keep all units focuses now on the entire Russian line, with additional US forces,

Building this IC, would you still build the one in Sinkiang?!

Move all?
I think that is a bit too risky,

Always keep the backdoor secured, do not trust the quietness, they will be there way before you can come back.

If the US saves some money, buys hell of a navy and you are in Africa?
It would take you around 3 turns to sail all the way back, assuming you are at Cape of Good Hope, or you can buy new stuff, say you have 36 IPC, that’s a battleship and a destroyer,

I think it is very, just say, stupid to leave nothing behind, although they might build transports a turn later and invade even later on, you’ve got a big navy fight, losing all your money on ships, not beating Russia anymore, risking the position of Germany, and being disabled of any combat except the naval war in the pacific for like 3-5 rounds? (just a wild guess)

I would not leave Tokyo behind with nothing, never.

@newpaintbrush:

@axis_roll:

@ncscswitch:

Fight nice folks.

A challenge is fine, insults are unneeded.

where was there an insult?

@Sproit:

@balungaloaf:

we play china as its own entity, its in enhanced.  the american units stay there and you use american pieces, but china goes after america.  you roll a die and if its a 2, 3, 4, you put that many inf down on a spot.  they defend on two’s, put you need 5 inf stacked to make 1 die roll on attack.  that way they really cant attack out, but its very hard to take over the chinks.  but in enhanced japan gets to use heavy inf on bonzaii attacks.

Go make your own game,

This sounds nuts, and places the US in an even worse starting position than before.

I am insulted on behalf of squirrels everywhere

I want to apologize for my insulting and unappropriated behavior.

I stick to my point that every ship not being Axis in the pacific is a real threat.

I think it is a good option,

It should provide indeed 3 units, and not being attacked after you got a nice cover from USSR or UK, at least not from Karilea, since you keep the pipeline going into that country.

I think it is worth it, but ah well, I doubt wether UK or US should build it, US is btter I think, they need to travel way more then UK.

@Romulus:

I usually try to get Australia and then move to Madagascar and then Africa with part of the Japanese fleet, leaving the other part in sz60.
A fast raid in Brazil, with Africa fleet may divert USA attention from Europe.
The problem is that Japan should not divert too much ships from sz60 so it is not “safe” to stay in Atlantic.

True,

You should keep enough backed-up in the Pacific, around Tokyo. (a few transports, 2 destroyers submarine might sound good enough?)

I think Japan moving in the Atlantic might be a good one,

Not really to attack, but just show your shining white teeth to let them watch their moves twice, and give Germany some hope on a bette rnavy (if needed) Mostly the German fleet is doomed, if not correctly handled and a bit luck, or just no Allied force attacking.

Going for Brazil, and/or Africa with your navy might sound nice, stick them into S17, this is just out of range from Washington, but you can reach: S7, S8, S9, S11, S12, S19, even Paris and London are in reach of you,
Only problem: if you placed an IC in Brazil, you need to move first to that one to continue your move.

I think I could try this one, but it needs lots of patience to act wisely there, and I doubt if an IC is the solution,
Not quiet sure.

@Cmdr:

Sproit,

You know, I have to say I hate the VC idea.  Most games are conceded with the fall of Germany, Japan or Russia.  In most cases, that is NOT 9 Victory Cities which has come to be a standard of most games played in most of the clubs IN MY EXPERIENCE. (just to clarify so we don’t get some nut job who says that in the Uzbekistan Club of Male Purse Carrying Turtle Lickers they use the 12 VC system as standard.)

Germany’s fallen with the Allies only having 5 VC.

+1 Germany
-1 Karelia
-1 India

6 (Starting) - 2 + 1 = 5

The Axis have had games given to them in concession with only 8 VC.

+1 India
+1 Russia

• None

6 (Starting) +2 = 8

VC is really a way to give the allies a chance to win the game without winning the game.  They don’t have to take any nation, they only have to take some territories and make sure not to lose any.  For instance, they can take Kwangtung, S. Europe and W. Europe.  Even if the axis have a 2000 IPC army and the allies a 12 IPC army, the allies win with the VC system in place.

I guess the original idea was probably (notice the hypothetical statements, no nut jobs allowed to say “no, I talked to Mr. Soinso who told me they came up with it so that People wearing purple bikinis on Wednesday in Ice Land could eat Cherry toppings on their Sundaes”, please!) to help end games before they became 100 Infantry 30 Armor, 6 Fighters defending vs whatever was attacking games like happened A FRICKIN LOT in classic!

I agree with you the VC rules are a bit, well not fully closing it,

I saw before you mentioning to keep playing for 1 entire round before seeing who really won the game, and I think that is a very good one, and I would like to introduce that in my House Rules with my fellow players.

I think the 8 VC play is useless, or at least, too short, It could be managed in a round or 3,

I think the best VC rule is to have 10 out of 12, this means the Axis don’t have to invade Washington or London, and win,
And the Allies dont need to take down the entire German force,

Historically that is also correct that you don’t kill all foe units, many German and Japanese soldiers surrendered, so I think 10 VC is the best (and keeping them for 1round)

@balungaloaf:

we play china as its own entity, its in enhanced.  the american units stay there and you use american pieces, but china goes after america.  you roll a die and if its a 2, 3, 4, you put that many inf down on a spot.  they defend on two’s, put you need 5 inf stacked to make 1 die roll on attack.  that way they really cant attack out, but its very hard to take over the chinks.  but in enhanced japan gets to use heavy inf on bonzaii attacks.

Go make your own game,

This sounds nuts, and places the US in an even worse starting position than before.

@axis_roll:

@Sproit:

@axis_roll:

There’s lots of factors for if it’s good or bad.

Taking the South America route makes those pieces ‘useless’ for 3 rounds (yes, grab new zealand on the way).

It’s a long trip, US can prepare (or the US pacific fleet was saved and in the atlantic already)
US can just sacrafice a tpt or two to take it back and now the Jap fleet has nothing to transport.

Japanese air craft would need to be in europe to make a fleet dsh into the atlantic as effective as possible.  Without that, the allies can treat the IJN as a gnat and deal with it when they are ready.  Also, If Japan is working the Indian ocean, US might drop a small backdoor navy in WUS to harass your sz60 transports.

Japan only attacks when ahving enough to leave behind, doh.

Please add detail to your statement or else it might be mis-construed as condescending.

“what is enough”?

I’ve already stipulated that IF you have an Indian ocean fleet working (to feed africa or fight persia, trans-Jordan, etc), then you might not have enough capital ships in/around sz60 to not have to worry about sailing 2 capital ships with support vessels around the south american tip.

US can drop a loaded carrier in sz55, fly a bomber in range, they would be able to hit sz60 with 3 planes.

Enough?

Enough when they can manage to keep the Russian pipeline flowing, supporting the fight (if needed) in Persia,

But hopefully the UK and US build both an IC in Sinkiang and India, so units can also be placed there.

It is a risky move, but well, aint war risky any time? ;)

Attack back with everything you own,

Blitzing Karelia is a good one, but do not enter Archangel,
You do not have enough inf to reach that (0), so you have only tanks there, and they get shot right away, for those 2 IPC, getting 2 tanks shot = 10 IPC, that ain’t worth it.

On G2, if you’ve taken back all those teritory, you could have an easy shot at Archangel, pushing Russia backwards more, hopefully you didn’t lose everything.

I would spend all my units on getting back at least Ukraine, and taking Karelia is just a gift. ;) (and if you can mange to hold it, a victory city! )