@Argothair said in We need an allied playbook.:
What I’m interested in is whether it makes sense to try to capture Yunnan at all on J1 during a J1 DoW. I go back and forth on that question. I like attacking with 3 land units and 2 planes and then retreating when you are down to 1 infantry or so – you might get lucky and capture the territory, and on average you will kill more infantry than you lose. Together with a small attack on Hunan, you can bleed the Chinese pretty dry on J1 and keep Kwangsi safe for a while.
Right. I read your comments as you not being sure about whether to attack Yunnan at all. The Yunnan stack is one of the strongest bids so I was very confused by your comments.
Strategic bombing on Moscow can’t start G3 unless there’s a G1 DOW. You do open Calcutta up to bombing from J2, but this isn’t a strong Axis move anyway unless the allies are likely to defer the fall of India. Makes much more sense with a J3 DOW. Anyway, a G4 unescorted bombing raid is something that is likely to need to be countered. Escorts can only make it if Belarus, W Ukraine or Ukraine fall I2. British fighters may be available for intercept, but may not too.
Ok, so if you’re just questioning whether to strafe, I still wouldn’t plan to do that. I can accept the idea of holding back an infantry in Kwangsi for reasons already discussed, but only in the case of a J1 DOW. If the battle goes badly enough, you can never rule out a retreat. I wouldn’t retreat one artillery and leave alive one Chinese inf. It puts you in a really bad tactical situation turn 3. China will stack Szechwan C1 and build artillery. Then turn 2, are you going to put your artillery into Yunnan? Doesn’t make sense given you wouldn’t do that turn 1. So China gets two turns of building up in Szechwan. By J3 you need to move into Yunnan or India can keep living too long. But China may be able to kill your stack on its own. Your choices become really bad unless you’ve taken India somehow (refer to my thread on stopping the J3 India crush). All this to save (usually) one artillery? Terrible decision. Still terrible if China got no hits on you.
If you aren’t doing the J1, my go to plan is to send the Kwangsi artillery to Hunan. There are two reasons for this. firstly just to keep the artillery alive for extra punch and an extra hit in later battles. Secondly, if the 2inf in Hunan get a double hit in the first round (1 in 9 chance) or a second hit in an improbably later round, then a Chinese counter attack is on and will probably succeed. Now, back to Yunnan, if I do indeed lose all my ground troops, I’ve never lost a plane to take the territory. I’m pretty sure I can attack it J2 in that case.
It’s massively different in a J1 DOW or later. In a J1, every ground unit is that much more precious. I can accept leaving Yunnan Chinese in a later DOW because you can that much more easily occupy it later.