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I think you have caught me napping in the Pacific.
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The G3 W Rus Line - Commentary on a Game

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Some time ago, I wrote a thread addressing a situation where another player was upselling their G1 6 tank line, arguing G1 Ukr was this great cool thing. Which, let’s face it, on some level I agree that 1942 Online meta Axis players are way too timid and uncoordinated. I think advocacy of aggression is good for the meta.

But I stated that playing G1 Ukr hold blind, ignoring dice outcomes and R1 action, was questionable, and further that I thought the proponent of the line had ignored R2 Ukr strafe (attack with intent to retreat).

One thing I remember from Discord is, after I said G1 6 tank buy does not necessarily require G1 Ukr hold, that I was ridiculed.

So I thought, you know, though I’ve spoken to various timings before, I’ve never really chained together what I’ve written into addressing the G3 W Rus line.

So here we go, it’s popcorn time!

THE BACKGROUND

Some months later, I was having a civil discussion with some other players on Discord about US1 bomber use; there were a few different participants, some points were made that I disagreed with, but nevertheless.

I wrote that I thought US1 bombers were not “correct” in any circumstance I would expect, that US1 transports reach Finland/France on US3, those transports threatening Karelia/Berlin/France on US4, and that US2 bombers (at the earliest) made for a pseudotiming - which is not to say, a specific line of play, but a confluence of factors that can be combined with other conditions to possibly arrive at something useful.

This was civilly questioned by another Discord poster. I thought they were civil and brought up coherent points, so I proposed a game - not as any sort of competitive match, or to prove or disprove any points with finality, but to possibly serve as illustrative context which, over repeated games, might form the basis for further analysis and discussion. Which maybe I didn’t say so much at the time, but at any rate we agreed to play.

I decided to take the G3 W Rus line, as I hadn’t used it in a while, and I thought fast pressure would highlight what I saw as questionable in the US1 bomber x 1 purchase line. My purpose, not to say that a US1 bomber is useless (it is not), but to more sharply define the terms; to show that a claim an entirely other player made that the US1 bombers should not be expected to bomb might not apply in practice - you get the idea.

THE POINT INTENDED TO BE ILLUSTRATED

US1 purchased bomber threatens France, Berlin, Karelia on US3. If the US1 East US fleet is left alone, it can drop to those territories on US3. But in practice, I think the Axis can counterpressure, discouraging the Allies from advancing their fleet.

HOW THIS WAS INTENDED TO BE DONE

Again, the framework was G3 W Rus line, specifically off G1 tank purchase, G2 air purchase, combining to pressure W Rus on G3.

Shifting G’s main stack to W Rus leaves Karelia vulnerable. However, G’s air force combined with J’s airforce moved to Ukraine on J2, counterpressure any fast Allied landings on Karelia. It is not desired that G bleed its stack, as G is the major Axis stack controller that is best suited to hitting a combined Allied defensive stack on Moscow. However, with both G and J in position, with the Allies still building their Atlantic fleet up, with G having some G2 air purchase to effectively take fewer casualties against possible attack against Atlantic fleet, the position is considered to work out all right.
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Gamerman01 (Axis) vs Ragnell804 (Allies) - Classic Invitational Game, RR, No Neutrals, Tech Turn 4 NOW just for fun

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It took me awhile, but I see what you mean as the G1, G3, G4, G5 North Sea dice are not grossly out of whack all put together.

After the 1% G3 result, I would have continued if the prize was $5,000

We re-set, and played just for fun. G4 was lucky with 0 planes lost instead of “supposed to be” 2, which set up G5 situation.

After the 1% G5 result, I would continue if the prize was $5,000, but I’m not going to grind out a just-for-fun game trying to win, and I think it might even be insulting to continue against a strong player after losing 6/7 of your luftwaffe early in the game in that situation, to say I will show you that I can still beat you

:) :) I only post this because I think it’s fun and mutually enjoyable to talk about the game and situations we all looked at. Hope I’m not wrong.
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L25 OOB domutgold (Axix) v Zar (Allies+45)

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zarhunter (Axis) vs Simon33 (Allies+50) OOB

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 8
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 4 armour and 5 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey Japanese take Yenisey from Russians 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Ulaanbaatar to Dzavhan Japanese take Dzavhan from Russians 1 armour moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia Japanese take Central Mongolia from Russians 1 armour moved from Central Mongolia to Dzavhan 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from UK_Pacific 1 armour moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei 1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Hopei 2 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Hunan 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Hunan 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 battleships, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 4 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 3 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone Japanese take 43 Sea Zone from Americans 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo Combat - Japanese Battle in Borneo Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers ANZAC defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships and 1 cruiser in Borneo, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Borneo, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 4.33 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Borneo 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Borneo Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Hopei Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 armour and 3 artilleries moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Kwangsi 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Shantung to Anhwe 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 3 artilleries placed in Kwangtung 1 armour and 2 artilleries placed in Kiangsu 3 armour placed in Shantung Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : -1.33 UK_Pacific regular : 0.33
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World at War Captain Walker (axis) vs Entek

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@ it looks like I missed the Italian aa gun while unloading… ok if I edit on minors?
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 11 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia Germans take Northwest Persia from British 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Southern Persia Germans take Southern Persia from British 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Vyborg 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Vyborg 1 armour moved from Karelia to Vyborg 1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Novgorod Germans take Novgorod from Russians 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Poland to Leningrad Germans take Baltic States from Russians 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Germany to Western Ukraine 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Karelia to Vyborg Combat - Germans Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Vyborg, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Leningrad Germans attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Leningrad Germans win, taking Leningrad from Russians with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Western Ukraine Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Leningrad: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Leningrad Non Combat Move - Germans Trigger Leningrad Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Leningrad_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans 1 artillery moved from Norway to Finland 1 armour moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to Romania 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 8 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus 1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 1 artillery moved from Romania to Bulgaria 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vyborg to Eastern Poland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Romania 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 fighter moved from Germany to Romania 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 1 armour moved from Western Germany to Poland 1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland Place Units - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Romania 1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Germany 1 submarine placed in 116 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 61 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 75 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Northern Belarus: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Tobruk: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Alexandria: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 2.33 Germans regular : -2.00
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It needs to be edited. There is a prompt when they are attacked reminding the Player.

A couple Ftr Aces and a regular Ftr make for a formidable defense :)

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