Posts made by robbie358

The trick is really that if Germany focuses on Sea Lion, there’s nothing the Brits can do about it, but if they do, then it gives Russia another 2 turns to build and therefore they have a freaking ton of guys.  So doing the Sea Lion invasion makes an invasion of Russia (almost) impossible.
If Germany doesn’t do the Sea Lion thing, Russia falls ALOT easier, but it keeps the UK in the game at least.  Either way the Allies are screwed, but it comes down to the dice most often times late in the game.  I’d say Axis-slanted, but not by much.
A bid does not help at all.  A few more infantry in UK means that Germany goes all-in on Russia, and a few more infantry in Russia means Germany goes all in on UK.

This is just an initial opinion, and I’d like to play a few more games before trying to come up with a fix.

Also I had the British Major Complex, so I just build another 10 infantry to help the 12 that I had there.

I don’t know how they crush my fleet when they can’t get into the Baltic…

I had a carrier and 2 cruisers and a few subs with my six transports on the Baltic.  My point was that for the next 5 turns or so there was nothing directly threatening German soil.  If he went to the UK (which he would have had to do before going to Norway, or he would have been going 2 spaces the whole way), I still got a turn to try and retake it before the UK even collected money, let alone another turn before they could build anything there.  All I have to do is destroy the US ground forces that he puts in Norway, then swing those troops back to the attack on Russia.  That’s 9 tanks and 6 infantry a turn for 4 turns plus a 6 tac bomber build to follow them all going into Russia by way of the factory in Leningrad and the transports in the Baltic.  He has to ACTUALLY take Berlin, where I can just spend my turns building 20 infantry until there are 60 infantry in Berlin while all those forces attack Moscow.

Oh, and to my knowledge he had 5 fully loaded transports (inf and art and tanks) 2 fully loaded carriers, 3 destroyers (counting the French), and a Battleship (damaged) off Gibraltar.  Southern Italy was going to be just fine for another 3 turns at least.  I had 5 fighters and 3 tacs to hit his navy if it went to Egypt, don’t know if I had to make that attack, though.

Oh, and also six transports in the Baltic ready to hit England or Norway with whatever I buy in West Germany.  Currently ferrying 6 tanks and 6 inf to Leningrad every turn.

If he goes Norway instead of England, my forces in Leningrad hit him hard.  If he goes anywhere in France, my 10 infantry in France kick him out.  IF he goes for Italy I don’t care because Italy is not trying to take Russia.  You honestly believe that Germany was going down just like that?  Why does Germany care about Africa again?  It’s worth 5 bucks?  That was the differnece in the game?

So here’s my after-action report for the game we finished tonight.  I was Germany and Italy vs. 3 allied players in Russia/France, UK, and USA.  I did my typical G1 craziness and beat down France and Yugoslavia.  Much to my surprise, the UK player did not build anything actually in the UK, let alone bring his fleet out to stop an invasion.  Italy got their fleet trashed, then managed to regroup and take Greece and eventually (on I2) Egypt.  G2 I built 7 transports and wiped his navy off the map with my air, G3 I invaded England and took it.  It was turn 4 before I ever devoted resources to Russia.  Meanwhile, Italy took THE ENTIRE MED and by turn 7 was raking in 34 bucks a turn… enough for a whole bunch of fighters and infantry.

Turn 4 I had a decision… built Navy to contest the USA or plow into the now very-formidable Russian front, I chose the latter (could have been a mistake).  With my 92 bucks on turn 4 I bought a whole lotta tanks and I did the minor in Yugoslavia-thing to get troops to Africa (like I needed it, should’ve just sent my navy down from England into the Med) and built up for the Russian campaign.  I ended up going north and hitting Leningrad with 17 tanks, 24 mechs, 10 artillery, and 4 inf.  It was at this point we ended the game.  The USA had built up his fleet enough to go to Gibraltar and kill the Italian fleet, and was sitting there with a sizable force.  There was 10 German infantry in France ready to hit any landing zone in Europe, 12 infantry and 2 fighters defending London, there were 10 infantry and 4 fighters and 3 tac bombers in Southern Italy ready to repel an invasion, Italy owned Iraq, Persia, and India, and I was two turns away from Moscow with no sense of urgency to attack.

Final IPC count was Germany: 77  Russia: 23  Italy: 34(was going down because of allied ships in the Med now)  USA: 68.

We ended up rolling the dice for Moscow, assuming a 2 turn Soviet build of just infantry (10 a turn for 20 total, seemed a bit high) and a build of 6 tanks for two turns in Leningrad.  He ended up defending with 48(!) 2s.  We came out of it he had 4 art, 4 tanks, and 2 fighters left to my 3 tanks and bomber.  My point was that I didn’t have to attack him right there as I was not sufficiently threatened by the US fleet.

Who do you guys think would have won?  I call it at tie at best, but opinion was against me, they all thought they were going to win by virtue of an Italy crush.  I though that I would have taken Russia eventually.  Did the Sea Lion build on turn 2 kill my chances of taking Moscow?  Could I have been there 2 turns earlier with the same force minus the 20 Russian infantry?  Please let me know.

If this happens, Japan needs to seriously consider getting transports to South America.  It’s worth another 8 bucks a turn!  Minor complex in Peru and it’s ALL YOURS.  THE AXIS WILL RULE THE WORLD! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

@BadSpeller:

And so the Great Debate starts….“the best G1 purchases and moves are…”! :-)

And so the GRAND BELLYACHING begins.  Noone is happy with anything in this forum.  For chrissakes…

ANYWAYS, the Italian Navy only dies if Germany allows it to.  IF on G1 the German Luftwaffe hits SZ 110 and the Germans send 2 U-boats to SZ 106 and 3 to SZ 109 it leaves the British in a very tough situation.  If it sacrifices that carrier (and especially destroyer) to kill the Italian Navy then it will undergo 3 IPC convoy disrupt from Canada and 6(!) IPC convoy disrupt from UK itself.  That is 9 bucks A TURN for potentially a very long time.

Besides, the Italians get two different sea zones with transports if I’m not mistaken so at least one should probably survive even with an all-out UK assault.  AND after Italy takes Greece and Southern France and grabs Egypt, and when the Germs or Japs get their air force around to killing the Allies’ Med fleet, they get 27 BUCKS A TURN.  That’s no small amount in my humble estimation. Cruiser/Destroyer/Transport every turn.

Though maybe I’m just a complete idiot and you whiners are the smart people in the room.  I must be totally wrong about this because noone here ever complains if there isn’t a great reason to.

Yeah, the kicker is that the other side has to actually take the territory, you can’t just move into your ally’s territories and call them yours.  They have to take it, and then you re-take it with your ally’s capital in enemy hands for this to happen.

@moralecheck:

@robbie358:

Hey allwork,

Did you notice that between Pac40 and Guadalcanal there are two differenet types of US infantry molds?  The base of the figures seems to be different sizes.  Anyone know why that is?

My Early copy of AAC came with 1/76 scale infantry and the later copy had the now standard 1/72 scale.  I’m surprised to hear that the 1/76 reappeared 20 years later.  Maybe the molds are still around and they used the wrong ones???  :?

I just went ahead an painted the smaller molds as regular US Army infantry and the larger ones as US Marines.  I usually do them all the same, but I wanted to make sure I have Marines in case I play the old Pacific again.  Besides, I’d never use anything other than Marines for Guadalcanal anyways.

Hey allwork,

Did you notice that between Pac40 and Guadalcanal there are two differenet types of US infantry molds?  The base of the figures seems to be different sizes.  Anyone know why that is?

@plumsmugler:

I guess that also means that if the axis decide to attack a strict neutral then you have basically just handed the Americans 6 extra income in South America and 2 more income to the UK in Africa too.  It looks like the same goes for the Allies.  If they piss off the neutrals then they hand over 6 income to Germany through Spain, Portugal, and Sweden and 4 income to Italy through Turkey and Saudi Arabia.  Not to mention the oodles of infantry the other side would be picking up too.

ANYONE attacking a strict neutral is just asking for trouble.  Just think of it as 6 infantry in Spain, 6 in Sweden, and 8 in Turkey that it’ll cost ya.

The Allies doing it is suicidal for Russia and the Axis doing it slows them down so much it’s not worth it.

@marechallannes:

AA gun in France could be a problem for the deutschen Panzertruppen.

I know, right?  The least the French could do is shoot down a German plane or two.

Anyone else think that at least Eastern USA deserves an anti-aircraft gun?  Not to mention Central US, France, West India, South Africa, Egypt, or Quebec?  Seems a bit thin on AA to me.

I don’t know about you, Allwork… the first thing I’m going to paint on the Europe '40 game is the French pieces.  I’m not a fan of the sky-blue color.

I have a fair idea of all the other French pieces, but I really don’t know how to do the infantry justice.  Any ideas from what you’ve seen?

The '66 Packers were the best team of all time.  Voted :)

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Whatever happened to “fortress malta” being in the game?  From what I can tell from the setup charts, there’s noone in Malta, so why bother?