@Zombie69:
Germany was already losing and would have kept losing with or without the US. Japan would have run rampant in the Pacific until Germany got dealt with, then UK and the Commonwealth countries would have started pushing Japan back. So basically, Germany would have fallen in 1944 anyway (1945 at the latest) and Japan would have taken a lot longer to settle, maybe until 1950. But The Allies definitely would have won WWII even if the US had stayed out of it the whole time.
ok…as i said play a game of A&A global 1940 with the US remaining neutral and win the war with just the UK and USSR and the ANZAC and france and let me know how the game goes…the US does not enter the war at ALL unless JAPAN attacks pearl…so tell the Japanese player NOT to attack Hawaii or ANY US territory and he does NOT have to worry about USA’s industrial might the entire game and the USA can still purchase units but at it’s non-war income level and they can do non-combat movement and they cannot attack anybody.
oh…germany was NOT already losing in december of 1941, the east front had bogged down into winter and had slowed them down, but the germans had still captured a lot of territory in the first six months of the great patroitic war however, Rommel was still very strong in north africa, japan was pushing deep into china, and britain was saying SOS to america at this time before december 6 because the germans were making killings in the battle of the atlantic, please tell me how the allies win this war without the men and industrial juggernaut that was the USA, remember please…the battles and invasions that the US participated in…do not take place…which means no operation torch, no normandy, at least the british would have had to invade ALONE, which means 1.5 million american troops are NOT in the UK at this time, no sicily, no salerno, no anzio, no midway, no leyte gulf, no island hopping, which means the japs have carriers EVERYWHERE in the pacific decimating the british fleet there, should i go on? oh yeah…no atom bomb either, because germany would have invented it FIRST because they were doing WARTIME R & D and the USA would NOT be doing it at the speed at which they did.