Posts made by MrMalachiCrunch

By your logic, the US did not fight an overseas war during WW I or II as it had bases in England.  Sure dude.  If you want to insist Carthage and Rome were not separated by the Mediterranean ocean you go girl.  Whatever you say.

Ah, well I was just being a technical with the word “fixed”.  :-P  Can yell tell the community can’t wait!!!

I suppose it depends on YOUR version of the meaning of war and battle.  shrugs

If you insist there is a disagreement then you must be right.

I never disagreed that the attack came from Spain.  So again, I am not sure what if any disagreement there is.

But the war was between an empire based in Africa against a European empire.  I don’t think you can say Carthage was a Spanish based Empire because it had a few belongings there for a few decades.

I think you are confusing battles with wars.

Hmmm, strange logic.

Carthage was an African based empire (true or false)?

Rome was an European based power (True or false)?

So the war was between two empires centered on different continents.

While I agree the invasion of Rome was launched from Carthaginian territories in Spain, it was still a war between Empires who have the centre of gravity on different continents.  Indeed, it was the invasion of Africa by Rome that caused Hannibal to leave Europe whereas loses in Iberia were not critical to Carthage.

I am not sure what the disagreement is about.

The spanish territories were under constant Roman attack.  True they were part of the Empire of Carthage but so was Britain part of the Roman empire.  Carthage was not at war with Britain but Rome.  The political centre of gravity was in Africa.  Carthage could exist without Spain but Carthage could not exist only in Spain.

New Carthage as it was known then was in the hands of the Carthaginian empire for a span of 19 years, hardly a pillar of the empire.  The Pyrenees were hostile territory requiring him to pacify the tribes he encountered so really not like fighting from the turf of his home land.

Yes, the attack was from Spainish land, but Hannibal was not a Spanish General.  The attack was from Spain by necessity not because Spain was the center of power for the empire.

The was was between an African empire and a European empire.  Get over it.

I think it’s lucky white’s weren’t asked to drive the natives around in rickshaws….I would pay to see a photoshop’d pic of Garg operating a rickshaw with Tecumseh in full garb!

If it wasn’t for the Natives most of Canada would belong to the natives Americans as the war of 1812 was won primarily with the help of native allies.  Their reward was to be screwed over by the British.  60 cents a day is a bargain for that classic betrayal.

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Both correct.  The attack came from the direction of Spain.  However, the war was between Carthage which was African based and Rome which was European based.  It was not a matter of the Spanish attacking Rome with a few African advisers who happen to belong to the Carthaginian empire.

We paid compensation to the Japanese who were in internment camps during WW II.  That was racist, you had to be Japanese to get that money!  I protest!   :wink:

Democracy for ya.  I have to pay for welfare moms because they keep popping out bambinos.  That is so unfair because as a man I can never get in on the action……

We don’t always get to pick and choose where our tax dollars get spent.

Many Canadians don’t like that French is forced upon us.  Price we had to pay for not having a continuous war with the French, a compromise for confederation.  The BNA was also a compromise that we cannot completely do away with, so lets change what we can change and accept some imperfections.

Garg, just marry a native chick…

I believe Hannibal’s attack on Rome initiated from his base in Spain. There was no “ocean” between his army and Rome. Granted he crossed the alps but paid a heavy price in doing so

By your logic the US was not fighting an overseas war against Germany in WW I or II because it had bases in England.  I suspect some historians would disagree with that assertion.

If there was an ocean between your army and the army of your enemy you could not actually fight could you?  If your home country is across the ocean from your enemies home country and you are fighting on the enemies home turf, you are fighting across an ocean regardless of where you have bases.

I think if one could compare the relative GDP of Carthage against the Roman empire and then compare that ratio to the ratio of GDP of France versus it’s enemies you would find the Carthage/Roman ratio to favour the Roman empire more so than the enemies of France.

A puny country Carthage taking on an empire versus in some cases a larger France compared to some of her enemies.

I believe Hannibal spent 10 years in Italy with no “ocean” between his army and that of Rome.

Carthage was indeed across the ocean and that is from where the attack originated from sans his European allies.  Most of Frances big battles were not far from its borders excluding of course the Africa campaign and the Moscow defeat.

Quite the feat shipping Elephants to Europe.  Quite the feat surviving 10 years an ocean away from home in hostile territory.  Transportation was a bit more challenging in Hannibal’s time compared to Napoleon

Canuck12, it took less than two hours to get a down vote for your last post I see.  And with my vote it goes back to zero for the time being.

That is gross rent.  If you factor in the taxes that natives do end up paying the ‘rent’ becomes even less.

Hear, hear!

Garg, that would be one heck of a drive…… Now if you had 3-4 people and could drive 24 hours…you would be more of a man than I!

Considering the vast manpower that Rome enjoyed over Carthage and the quality of the Roman Army, Hannibal may have had a more difficult road to total victory than Napoleon.

Precisely!  If the question was about accomplishment only then George S. Patton would be in the running.  My metrics are feats versus odds.  Hannibal was fighting an enemy in a different continent and separated by an ocean!

1. 1 sub attacks 56 cruisers, 28 battleships 9 aircraft carriers, and 12 loaded transports.

• the sub wins without any shots fired.

I’ve never played Global,  Garg how can that be?  1 to 1 rule means one attacking plane/ship per destroyer along with the destroyer?  No destroyer no defense at all?

@Gargantua:

The point was Cornwallis didn’t lose an entire continent.

That actually was the point.  Cornwallis didn’t lose an entire continent so ought not to be in the same league as Hannibal Barca who naturally is the correct choice and not just because it was my choice……but because it is correct.

Just learn to accept it.

neat, wonder why I see a scroll bar…neat!

Just saying if we expect natives on reserves to generate wealth, we ought to encourage changes in laws to give them the tools to do so whilst putting an end to the cronyism that occurs now.