As it stands, Bush couldn’t get elected dog catcher. His approval ratings have dipped below 40%, Iraq is a mess, and his pet project is DOA (Social Security reform). Also Republicans up for reelection are already distancing themselves from him.
That said, here’s the poll
@F_alk:
Because “Kristallnacht” is the official term listed in the history books in public record.
So, if i find an official german book that says something about anything in US history, then that gives me the right to use that term… even if the whole of the US agrees that it is an “evil” and relativistic term?
Besides, I can’t find a definition for progrome. Is that spelled right? Is that a native word (ie German?) Better yet, could you post a definition for us so we don’t have misunderstandings over syntax?
Pogrom. My bad, a spelling mistake.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=pogrom&searchmode=none
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=pogrom
There are all sorts of euphemisms in American history. The Trail of Tears should probably be called “When we force-marched thousands of Native Americans to their death”. Have to agree with Jen on this one.
Google: Teddy AND “rough riders” AND “buck stops here”
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv1-&p=Teddy+AND+“rough+riders”+AND+“buck+stops+here”
Needless to say, there’s not much help for Jen in those 8 links.
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/buckstop.htm
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/355200.html
"Origin
U.S. president Harry Truman had a sign with this inscription on his desk. This was meant to indicate that he didn’t ‘pass the buck’ to anyone else but accepted responsibility for the way the country was governed."
I used him specifically because of his catch phrase: “The Buck Stops Here” In other words, no matter what happened under his watch, he took personal responsibility for it. Obviously, he didn’t resign, but I get the feeling, from what I’ve seen and read, that he didn’t exactly tolerate evil happening around him.
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You should have read more. “The buck stops here” is from Truman.
His early material was excellent. Sean Penn was great in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Bad Boys, and At Close Range, but other than that, crap.
Dead Man Walking, The Translator, The Assassination of Richard Nixon and The Thin Red Line.
He couldn’t have done LESS than Bush has done.
If people are being suspended, I would think references to electing Hitler would be at the top of the list, but that’s just me, I guess.
The Germans never attacked one US Citizen until after we pre-emptively attacked them, just like in Iraq.
Lol, you’re so full of shit you must squeak. Germany and Italy declared war on the U.S. on Dec. 11, 1941.
Mary, did you miss that entire Congressional Declaration of War? The details on how to fight the war are up to the President, but he still waited for the DOW.
I just coulnd’t let this pass, cause it’s, ya know, Jen.
Yes, we all missed the “entire Congressional Declaration of War”. Most likely because it doesn’t exist.
I’m about posted out on declarations of war now.
@Imperious:
Man we lost 10,000 men just taking Wake island from Japs… i dont see the big deal with Iraq. Heck we only lost 1,100 taking and holding an entire hostile nation for years… Why didnt anybody complain about Wake Island? Oh i forgot that was a war with a Democrat as President … or 4 term “King” called FDR. And I also forgot that life didnt matter then and Democrats also controlled both Houses of Congress… NM :wink: :wink: :o
Two words: Just war
According to Zogby, Bush’s approval rating hit 41% on Sept. 8, the lowest it’s ever been. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a_85Pjjx7jAQ
Bush might as well vacation the rest of his term out in Crawford. Unless Iraq pulls a democratic govt. out of its ass in the near future, Bush is finished. Has anyone seen a more ineffectual president since Carter or even Nixon?
Come to think of it, i’ve had patients die in the hospital under my care
DOCTORS ARE KILLING OTHER PEOPLE IN CANADA FOLKS, LET’S GO INVADE THOSE JERKS!
I don’t know. I have this image of Canadian mounties swooping down like a bunch of furies and… well, they’d be swooping at least! Nightmares all around.
@cystic:
i suppose so . . . if you believe in multiple personality disorder/fugue state.
It’s kind of like a matter/anti-matter thing.
Yes, if I met Jen in real life, we would annihilate each other. Wisdom and stupidity is just as volatile a mix as neutrino/anti-neutrino ;)
Clearly they are one in the same.
I mean seriously TWO girls on an A&A site. Not Bloody likely.
I’m not falling for this Tom Foolery any longer.
:D
That WOULD be something, but you should really start a poll for this sort of thing.
But I think Jen was here years before me. Maybe a case of late-onset schizophrenia?
No, no. Jen’s on to something here. More people die in hospitals than in Iraq… Think of THAT next time those EMT jerks want to take you to “the slaughterhouse” (AKA “a hospital”).
Just another example of the liberal media ignoring the real news: Chicago drivers.
So, did you ever find where Congress declared war on Iraq? No? Better keep looking! Probably in that library you always go to ;) And who decided if, when, where, and how to invade? Congress? Could it have been the White House? The worst you can say about Congress is that they shouldn’t have given a loaded gun to a moron, but the moron’s party ALSO happened to control Congress. When Condoleeza started talking about smoking guns turning into mushroom clouds, it was clear Bush was going to get the power he wanted.
I don’t know why you and Darth have such a hard time grasping this. LBJ lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident to get a resolution passed in Congress. Bush lied about WMD’s, Al Queda, and nuclear weapons to get HIS resoultion passed. Know who gets blamed for Vietnam? Do you think anyone even remembers congressmen from the 60’s? But I guarantee you people have heard of LBJ and McNamara. Do you think they’re going to look back at the 2000 Congress for the mess in Iraq? Lol! Good or bad, Iraq is Bush’s legacy.
Besides, Bush wanted an Iraq war. He was a popular Republican at the time and there’s no way the party was going to go against him. There was one Republican who voted NOT to give Bush authorization out of the entire Congress. Republicans controlled the White House and Congress and they got their little war and now must live with the consequences.
Oh, and I think I heard Rush talking about Hybrid M.P.G. averaging somewhere around 2 nowadays ;)
Becaue you do not agree with it, or choose to focus in on only one reason (wmd) does not make it a lie.
From the Wiki link - reasons listed in war resolution:
_The act cited several factors to justify a war:
Iraq’s noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire
Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, and programs to develop such weapons, posed a “threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region”
Iraq’s “brutal repression of its civilian population”
Iraq’s “capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people”
Iraq’s hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt of George Bush Sr, and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War
Iraq’s connection to terrorist groups, including Al Qaeda
Fear that Iraq would provide weapons of mass destruction to terrorists for use against the United States_I do not know why some people are so eager to defend Saddam. Who cares why he was removed. It is a good thing he is out of power.
Without WMD’s, nukes, and links to Al Queda, an invasion of Iraq never would have taken place. Those were THE defining reasons for going to war.
And if anyone is eager to “defend” Saddam, it was America, back in the 80’s. Ever seen that picture of Rumsfeld shaking Saddam’s hand? Or the weapons we supplied Hussein with? He was the same bad guy back then as he was in 2002.
Yes, both Bush and Congress were necessary conditions for the Iraq war- one to give authority and the other to actually use it. But Other factors tip the balance of blame over to Bush: It was his party in control of both houses of Congress, and the Bush administration either misstated the reasons for going to war or out-and-out lied.