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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 2

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 4 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
        Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Established Switch: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans

    Politics - Germans
        Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
              Germans take Greece from Neutral_Allies
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to 116 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom

    Combat - Germans
        British scrambles 2 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in United Kingdom
        Battle in United Kingdom
            Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 1 infantry; French defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                British roll AA dice in United Kingdom : 2/10 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                2 bombers owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in United Kingdom, round 2 : 6/10 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 4 aaGuns, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in United Kingdom, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom
                4 aaGuns owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in United Kingdom
                Germans roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in United Kingdom, round 3 : 6/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in United Kingdom, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom
                1 infantry owned by the French, 1 fighter owned by the French and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in United Kingdom
            Germans captures 40PUs while taking British capital
            Germans converts factory_major into different units
            Germans win, taking United Kingdom from British with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for British: 4 aaGuns, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
        triggerBritishDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to British
        Trigger Germans Conquer London: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Axis_Capture_London_Switch attached to Germans

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Fleet Scuddle: has removed 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer owned by Neutral_Axis in 95 Sea Zone
        Trigger Germany Syria France Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Syria
        Trigger Germany Occupies Tunisia Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Tunisia
        Trigger Germany Occupies French West Africa Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in French West Africa
        Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband: has removed 1 artillery and 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France
        3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Southern France
              Germans take Southern France from Neutral_Axis
        1 aaGun moved from France to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
        2 artilleries moved from Germany to Poland
        3 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
        4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from France to Austria
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 116 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Germans
        3 transports placed in 116 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 4 submarines placed in 115 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany
        Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband Facilities: has removed 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France
        Trigger Germany Occupies Southern France Facilities: Germans has 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour placed in Southern France

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 92 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 95 PUs
        Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 100 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 105 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 108 PUs
        Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 113 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 113 to 108
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern Italy: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Alexandria: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 115 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 107 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 116 Sea Zone: 3 transports
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 115 Sea Zone: 3 transports
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 108 to 113
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

British AA : 0.33
Germans regular : 3.00
British regular : -0.00

Savegame

@mr_stucifer
Last edit I swear.

didnt move the land units for the TT’s.

Not that it really matters. For some reason I had it in my head the US TT had to go through SZ 107.

@mikawagunichi
In BM4, Russia makes a lot less money, and sees its income steady reducing fairly rapidly. In that version, trading 7 Russian planes, early, for the Italian fleet with a Persian factory that is threatened and a 30ipc Italy would, in my estimation, be a slight net negative in the overall allied position.

But P2V is a very different game. I have no reference to look at to have an informed opinion on the overall strategic situation in this game.

As you say, we will find out as it plays out.

@TinCanoftheSea
Not sure, will look later

Work insanely busy this week. Will try to get to it by end of the weekend

@mikawagunichi
Didn’t know if you wanted to move your french fig, and feel free to edit during russia’s turn.

@mikawagunichi
And Merry Christmas to the Japanese. Anzac took Borneo without casualties in all, ALL, the test plays I ran. Was causing me much distress .

Will post Germany in a bit. Have it figured out, but in-laws just arrived

Edits:
Forgot a walk-on battle in Bryansk, and a NCM for 2 figs to Leningrad.

@TinCanoftheSea
don’t feel pressured. Holidays are to spend time with friends and family.

Brain fart. Guerrilla rule activates on China’s turn. So don’t mind those edits.

Last edit was a forgotten NCM from Japan to Hokkaido

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

@mainah a lot of interesting thoughts and points. I’ll just leave one with you, off the top of my head.

Especially if you’re not talking about veteran players, your opponent may actually be improving over the 6 months that you are playing him. He is learning things from his other games, and you may be actually playing an increasingly good player over the months that you are playing him! So there is a weakness to counting ELO’s at game start, as well.

This is not intended as a complete answer, but one thought that I think may be another thought to consider. I like your post.

And another thing - as the player is getting better (and we all want to) I don’t think that it should help up the eli affect on the first game, as the first few rounds are utterly crucial, and would be hard to make up for with your new knowledge.

Player A elo 1300 vs b elo 1500. At start. Player A gets better over the 5 months, when the game ends is at 1400. Player B, having played flawlessly since G1, doesn’t get the full elo bump they earned by playing good from the beginning. Or maybe I have that backwards as I don’t know how the formula really works. Maybe it ends up reverse, player A gets an unfair change.

And all of this, when applied to the “new to league unranked” player is really variable when they start at 1500 . And I understand that that is a sword that cuts both ways, wether we score at the beginning or end of the match.

Again I don’t understand the mathematics behind the formula. I use carpenter in the field math without a calculator, not algorithms. So I don’t know how this plays out on the spreadsheet. I am trying to understand, but probably won’t. I do trust that both you and @MrRoboto will get it right.

@mikawagunichi
Break out the chianti, boys, celebrate the new year!

Didn’t matter.

Results ended up being average. So I can’t complain, I knew the risk.

@mr_stucifer
Actually, rule book says sub hits, when they are surprised, roll first, and hits assigned first, as the hits do not get a return shot.

3 more hits. With the CA gone, you have 3 CA’s, tilted BB, CV, 3 figs

@mikawagunichi

New things to try??!?! Intrigue about your plans for a British bomber in the pac.

@barnee
I am logging in to put in 200.

What are the bots? Are they needed? Not trying to micro manage, just I am unaware of how they work on the game/league play.

@barnee
Least I could do. Haven’t donated before, so makes up a bit.

@gamerman01

Might want to shoot off some star shells. I bought us till March, but time seems of great importance.

@gamerman01
Of course you post this after I have over-extended myself with 5 games already. I’d like to make an exception to try the new uhd map, but the family might take offense.

If no one takes you up on the UHD in a few weeks after I clear a game or two, I would be honored

@dawgoneit

https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases

@mikawagunichi
Edit is a changed NCM - I had sent 1 inf from shan to malaysia, changed it to Yunan