I would hope the true intent of this one time IPC bonus was for a propaganda like boost. That’s why I say for this to work, Anzac inf has to take say the marshall islands, change the ownership of something japanese to anzac. Giving the people back home something good to read about in the paper.
AUSTRALIAN INFANTRY DIVISION TAKES PALAU ISLANDS!!!
not
WE LANDED SOME PLANES IN BRITISH OCCUPIED SIAM!
I declare BS on this. Yes, I know there is precedent from 50 regarding USSR NO’s and allied units being in Soviet spaces…but I still say BLAH to planes on the carolines getting 5IPCs for ANZAC.
So to be clear. The US takes the carolines, ANZAC lands a plane there, and they get 5 IPCS?
right, so he can destroy the xport, or bombard, but not both.
I thought w/transports you had the option of ignoring them, so you’d have to not have the planes attack if you wanted to have your BB shore bombard.
pretty sure by “occupy” to get the 5 IPC one time deal you have to have boots on the ground, not planes in the sky.
again, it is in the rulebook which is a misprinted pile of garbage as we have learned. the errata has changed the way this plays.
Build transports and infantry to keep taking the islands near Australia. It’s not only an ANZAC NO, but keeps Japan from one of theirs. Plus buying fighters and landing them there will stall Japanese fleets (scramble rule).
only if you build airbases, unless you are talking about anzac taking the carolines…?
@Col.:
I guess another question is, what does “unescorted” mean? Can a surface warship come from a sea zone that the transport did not originate from to enter the “sub defended” territory and thus escort the transport? Also, what does “through” mean? Does the sub only attack if the transport enters and leaves the “sub defended” sea zone, or is it when it enters (which would seem to mean that the escort must start with the transport)?
EDIT: OK, the rulebook says “the sub can attack any transport that moves INTO or THROUGH its sea zone unaccompanied by surface warships.” So it’s when the transport enters. But the question still stands, does the escort have to start with the transport in the same sea zone?
in terms of common sense, no they shouldn’t have to “start” together. I can move 2 fleets from 2 different sz’s into a sz with an enemy fleet and 1 big battle takes place. but this is AA, so who knows what the “official” rule will be. I will never understand why a mech inf needs a tank to blitz. Blitzing takes place through an EMPTY square. It’s BS.
let you know when I actually see the items promised in the mail :)
when they send you a cut and paste reply, and obviously don’t pay attention to anything in your email, call them and say you have a problem w/a reply. They will ask for a ref #. Give it to them. Let them read it. Then say, So do was my message even read? Worked for me.
I’m assuming someone didn’t miss it, and that’s why it is in the FAQ.
The FAQ is errata, therefore it is correct. The rulebook has many, many holes in it.
The Errata for the Anniversary edition is bigger. Who’s demanding updated rule books for that?
The power of a little extra tartar sauce is amazing.
I don’t own 50 or I would have been complaining about that. I play on other people’s copies :)
Besides, from seeing '50, and the quality of the product, more goodwill was earned. 50 doesn’t feel cheap like this game.
you can’t attack on someone else’s turn…
Playtesters never test the final product. Once it’s final, it’s a little too late for testing. Once the game design is finalized, it’s up to the editors to make sure that nothing changes during the translation from prototype to final product. There are many steps in which mistakes can be made.
Kreig you seem to be a decent guy, but I declare shenanigans on what you say here regarding the map itself. Are you saying the map you played on had the lines for the sea zones correct? That the names on the board were spelled correctly? That the setup didn’t have misspellings? How about the rule regarding IPC values for Maj ICs? No one caught the issue in Australia? Or the rule about IC’s on an island? No one caught NZ?
Again, not attacking you, I have no idea what you contributed to the final game, I can only assume based on your tireless efforts on this site that if not for you the game we would have all purchased in December would have had 5 random magic the gathering cards, risk pieces and a rulebook for D&D and the board from D-Day.
I think there needed to be more eyes on the beta product, and WOTC needs to olive branch it with the community here. Want me to buy AAE40? I’m thinking MIR would be a good idea. Or hell, include these http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/429258/Avery-Sliding-Bar-Report-Covers-Assorted/?cm_mmc=Mercent--Google--Report_Covers_and_Portfolios-_-429258&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=plusbox-beta&mr:trackingCode=8F470D1B-EC81-DE11-B7F3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA to hold all the boards together. I bought 6 for $2.34 at office depot, I’m sure they could buy them in bulk and even put logos on them.
I’m starting to notice a trend that every thread in the P40 forum ends in this discussion.
So the real question is:
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE AND IF SO, WHAT DO WE DO?
Otherwise, we will continue to just slam WOTC and complain about spending $90.
Thoughts anyone?
I’m all for the continued attacks on WOTC. They claim they read these forums and are “in touch” with what the people who buy their products are concerned about. Really? Well then how about they step up and do the right thing? They have NO PLANS to send us a chart for IPCs that goes into the 50s/60s/70s, but they’ll be happy to send us a battleboard 3 months after we bought the game…does anyone actually USE a battleboard? They have changed the starting setup of the game, but our lids are now wrong. Stickers? New lids? Pipe dreams. Especially when you look at their site, the FAQ for this game? Non-existent! PDF of the rules? NOPE. Not that they would be accurate, there is no errata for the game on their site.
$90 is not a drop in the bucket for some people. If you think it is, i’ll send you my paypal info and you can drop it in my bucket and I will shut up and stop complaining about this game.
it’s like in AA50 where you have Italians and Germans in Libya.
I still think that something using toilet paper tubes as the fuselage and cereal box lids as wings would be more in spirit with all the cardboard WOTC gave us in this release. That and the size would be appropriate for the board.
yeah, and i keep trying to get behind this abattlemap thing but the ridiculously small icons is too much for me to deal with