Posts made by Lazarus

@Pvt.Ryan:

Please leave irrelevent things out of the conversation.

So sayeth the man who believes the Stealth Bomber was a German invention!

@Pvt.Ryan:

Ok IR score one for the US Yeah! Score a whole **** more for the Germans for getting Jets, Assault Rifles, Rockets Etc.!!!

The first jet to enter full Squadron Service was the Meteor……

Score what for an army  that to the end used horses for transport?

Not very good at this are you?

Let me try and make it a bit simpler.
The German version never saw service.
It is claimed that some MIGHT have been used or POSSIBLY one or two saw action.
The US Sniperscope was issued to front line units in some quantity and used in the Pacific against the Japanese.
Let us recap
German version never saw production
US version has a production run and was  combat tested in WW2.

Anyway you look at it IR was NOT a German first.

IR was not a German secret weapon

@KurtGodel7:

. In addition, Germany achieved the below list of developments–developments which were significantly ahead of their time.

Wartime jets + axial flow jet engines --> postwar axial flow jet fighters.
Wartime advanced jet designs (Me 262 HG III) --> postwar efforts to break the sound barrier
Wartime stealth bomber design --> 1980s era B2 stealth bomber
Wartime type XXI U-boats --> postwar nuclear submarines
Wartime air-to-air missiles --> postwar air-mounted weaponry
Wartime guided air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles --> postwar guided missiles
Wartime cruise missile (V1)  --> postwar cruise missiles
Wartime V2 rocket --> postwar ICBMs
Wartime assault rifle --> postwar assault rifles
Wartime infrared vision equipment for tanks --> postwar night vision equipment
Wartime handheld anti-tank weaponry (Panzerfaust) --> postwar handheld anti-tank weaponry
Wartime Fritz guided bombs --> postwar smart bombs
Wartime Wasserfall surface-to-air missiles --> postwar SAMs

Ah I see. If Germans had something then it follows that all post-war development stemmed from them.
This is silly.The claim that the stealth bomber is a german invention is laughable. It is long shown to be a history channel invention.
Let us take one example above. The claim Germany led in IR development.
Is that so? How then did the US develop and deploy a rifle with IR scope  when Germany failed?
IR was not a German invention and even the Soviets had a pre-1939 version.

@Krupp:

From 22 June 1941 onwards, at least two-thirds of the German Armed Forces were always engaged on the Ostfront.

60% of the German GROUND Army not 60% of the German Armed Forces.

@KurtGodel7:

It is also worth noting that by 1944, the Germans had developed or were in the process of developing potentially war-changing technologies; including the following:

• Jets: obtained a 4:1 kill ratio against enemy aircraft.

• Wasserfall: a guided surface-to-air missile capable of helping defend Germany’s skies

• Type XXI U-boat (in development in '44): a very quiet, stealthy, highly advanced submarine difficult to track or kill. It had advanced electronics, allowing it to hunt and kill enemy ships without being detected. It used electrically powered torpedoes that did not leave telltale bubble trails.

• Panzerfaust: a shoulder-launched rocket used to destroy enemy tanks. Easily produced and effective.

• Panther tanks: significantly better than their Allied counterparts.

The usual fantasy where every German weapon is assumed to be 100% successful and the Allies stand by and do nothing to counter the threat.
The truth is Allied Jets were in the wings, proximity fused radar guided guns would deal with any missiles. Millions of Panzerfausts were made and they did not stop the T34 or the Sherman. I could go on but I know someone is going to bring up Nazi Flying Saucers and secret Artic Bases!

@MrMalachiCrunch:

Relient is not a synonym for majority, moreover I was talking about aircraft in specific.  Now you show me a chart that documents numbers of aircraft flown by the US airforce and country of origin that shows 1/2 of the planes flown were made in France and I will then agree that a majority of planes flown by the americans were of French origins.

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Service

Statement:“The 740 airplanes[24] equipping the AEF on November 11, 1918, were approximately 10% of the total aircraft strength of the Allied forces”

Footnote 24 :
Cooke (1996), p. 198. Quoting Mitchell, there were 196 American-made, 16 British-made, and 528 French-made aircraft

From another Wiki article:

“The US army and navy air services were hopelessly behind, even in 1917, when the United States entered the war, they were to be almost totally dependent on the French and British aircraft industries for combat aircraft”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_in_World_War_I

The point is that during WW1 The US was reliant on French (and to a lesser extent British) equipment, vehicles, artillery, tanks ect.

The point is the original claim that The Germans considered Patton the ‘best’ Allied General. I gave a quote where this is contradicted and no quote confirming the ‘Patton is best’ claim can be found.
I have yet to see any quote showing a named General showing the claimed German ‘fear’ of Patton.

@Herr:

It is not specifically mentioned that (von) Rundstedt was among the generals who said that, but it seems likely: Liddell Hart did indeed meet Rundstedt

He did say it and it is in the book. It is a authentic sourced quote.

@Herr:

But the possibility exists that the quote was a consensus opinion offered by several German generals, Rundstedt being one of them.

There is no ‘possibility’ about it. It was said. The quote is sourced along with other comments by Blummerit.

"What did the Germans think of their Western opponents? They were diffident in expressing an opinion on this matter, but I gathered a few impressions in the course of our talks. In reference to the Allied comanders, Rundstedt said: “Montgomery and Patton were the two best that I met. Field Marshall Montgomery was very systematic. He aded: “That is alright if you have sufficient forces, and sufficent time.” Blumentritt made a similar comment. After paying tribute to the speed of Patton’s drive, he added: “Field Marshall Montgomery was the one one general who never suffered a reverse. He moved like this” – Blumentritt took a series of very deliberate and short steps, putting his foot down heavily each time.” --“The German General Talk”, pp.257-58, by B.H. Liddell Hart

One has to wonder why doubt is being cast on this ranking of Montgomery with Patton. It would appear there are those who simply can not accept reality and prefer legend.