Posts made by Keodis

ok i think this is how the unkown locations of germany is set up. correct me if wrong!

Germany: 6 inf, 1 mech, 1 art, 2 bombers
Western Germany: 6 inf, 3 tanks, 1 mech, 1 art, 2 ftr, 1 tac
Poland: 6 inf, 2 tanks, 1 mech, 1 art, 2 ftr, 1 tac
Greater southern Germany: 2 inf
Denmark: 1 inf
Norway: 1 inf
Holland: 4 inf, 1 ftr

1 sub in each of the following seazones: 103,104,107,108,112,117,118,124
SZ 112: DD
SZ 113: BB, CA, DD
SZ 114: CA, 2 AP

ALSO: the ships listed for UK europe are just for the SZ’s around the UK. theres no info for ships in gibraltar or the med.

RN:
SZ 119: 3 BB, 2 DD, 2 CA
SZ 109: 1 BB, 2 DD, 2 CA, 1 CV, 1 SS
SZ 111: 4 DD
SZ 110: BB, 2 DD, 2 CA, SS

i think SZ 19 (gibraltar) has: 1 CV /w tac and a CA

Do we use the same navy in OOB for the med?

Japan has no info for deployment in Korea.

What i setup: germany, UKP, UKE ( navy only ), Japan

Pacific side:
JAPAN
Japan: 2 Infantry, 1 Bomber
Manchuria: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mechanized, 1 Fighter, 1 Bomber
Jehol: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery,1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Bomber
Shantung: 2 Infantry
Kiangsu: 2 Infantry
Kiangsi: 2 Infantry
Kwangsi: 1 Infantry
Siam: 2 Infantry
Sea Zone 6 (off Japan): 3 Battleships, 2 Carriers, 2 Cruisers, 2 Destroyers, 1 Transport, 2 Fighters, 2 Tactical Bombers
Sea Zone 17: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 19: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 20: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 22: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 36: 1 Carrier, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Submarine, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber

United Kingdom
India: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank
Burma: 1 Infantry
Malaya: 2 Infantry
Sea Zone 39 (Ceylon): 1 Cruiser, 2 Destroyers, 2 Transports
Sea Zone 37: 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 42: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 43: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport

ANZAC
New Guinea: 1 Infantry
Queensland: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
New South Wales: 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Western Australia: 1 Mechanized
Sea Zone 54: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 62: 1 Transport

Dutch
Sea Zone 41: 1 Destroyer

CHINA
Chahar: 2 Infantry
Hopei: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Anhwe: 2 Infantry
Human: 2 Infantry
Yunnan: 3 infantry, 1 Fighter

United States
Western United States: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1Bomber
Sea Zone 10 (San Diego): 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 12: 1 Carrier, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Sea Zone 14: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 25: 1 Submarine
Hawaii: 1 Infantry, 1 Tactical Bomber,
Sea Zone 26 (Honolulu): 2 Battleships, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Philippines: 1 Infantry
Sea Zone 35: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport

Europe Side:

Germany:
unkown locations: 26 infantry, 5 tanks, 3 mech, 4 artillery, 5 fighters, 2 bombers, 2 tactical bombers, 1 BB, 2 CA, 2 DD, 8 SS, 2 AP
Romania: 5 Infantry, 1 mech, 1 artillery, 1 fighter
Hungary: 5 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank

Italy:
unkown locations: 15 infantry, 1 tank, 2 mech, 2 artillery, 2 bombers, 2 fighters (1 in Italian East Africa), 1 tactical bomber.
2 BB, 2 CA, 3 DD, 5 SS, 1 AP

Soviet Union:
unkown locations: 25 infantry, 4 tanks, 4 mech, 5 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 tactical bomber, 1 bomber ( rated Soviets lower due to huge issues on quality and doctrine, but on paper they had the largest air force easily)
1 BB, 3 DD, 7 SS, 2 AP  ( on the Manchurian border:6 Infantry, 2 Mech, 2 artillery 1 tanks, 1 fighter)

France:
unkown locations: 16 infantry, 6 mech, 3 tanks, 2 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 tactical bomber (air force was not ready and mostly destroyed by June 1940)
2 BB, 2 CA, 3 DD, 3 SS, 1 AP

United Kingdom: Global
unkown locations: (possibly double listed ) 6 infantry, 3 mech, 1 tank, 2 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 bombers, 1 tactical bomber
5 BB, 1 CV, 4 CA, 10 DD, 2 SS, 8 AP
BEF:1 Infantry, 1 mech, 1 artillery
Canada:1 infantry, 1 DD, 1 AP
India:2 infantry, 1 tank
Africa:1 infantry
South Africa:1 Infantry

im going to print this out and try and figure out where all these would be located. all help appreciated as i cant find any historical info on where they were located

hey oz are u working on a european setup? or do you want me to do that?

ive been gathering all the #'s to a single spot but i dont know where theyd be placed down at. asking for help seeing as you made a 1941 variant

i hears pacific was bad compared to band of brothers. still gunna see it

where did you get the info on where ground forces were? im trying to get a historically accurate 1940 setup going ( you already posted there )

edit: is this historically accurate?  becaue the royal navy seems really small and theres no ships in scapa flow

i was thinking of a way to implement vichy france, but gotta do everything step by step

@Gargantua:

I haven’t seen any of them, or the T.V. Shows/spinoffs, or read the book series.

But I can imagine, that the TWILIGHT series most certainly trumps ANY previously mentioned films as overrated.

TWILIGHT SHOULD BE ERASED FROM ALL OUR MEMORIES. havnt watch it but just saying.

ANY and i mean ANY MOVIE with Nicolas Cage is overrated because the movie automatically should receive a rating of 0.1 / 10

I love the movie boondock saints but it is overrated lmao.

Recent movies that are overrated: Looper.      it epically failed and was a waste of a good idea, talent, effort and cgi. that movie has plot holes larger than the planet Jupiter.

also, everyone go to the theaters right now and watch Dredd because its an almost perfect rep of the comic books. watch dredd!!!

I am unable to explain to other people how great it is, and when people watch it, they always just say “meh”……

Ok. We’ll i guess its going to be a waiting game till we can get all the info on the forces and their exact location.

once that is done, NO’s, combat, retreating and many other rules will be altered so we can make this work

ok i will. the problem is theres no info on italian ground forces for example

EDIT: nvm theres units for italy, just not raw data but idc. that will have to do. your ratios are matching mine except for some small differences, ex. i have russia with 1 mech and u have it with 4. Doesnt matter too much. Gotta see what countries are missing now

your right. we will work on that soon.

IL, i went through your MASSIVE WALL OF TEXT and determined this from the #'s

France: 13 inf, 3 mech, 1 tank, 1or2 art, 1 ftr, 1 tb

Germany: 18 inf ( then another post divides thier inf into 25 inf so idk whats accurate ), 1 art ( other says 3 ), 1or2 tanks, ( another syas 5….) 10 art, 6 AAA, 4or5 ftr, 4or5 tacbomber, 2 bomber.

UK: 5 inf, 1 mech, 2 art, 4 ftr, 2 bomber, 5 BB, 6 CC, 2 AC, 9 DD

Japan: 9 inf, 1 tank, 2 art, 2 AAA, 10 ftr, 2 tacbomber

russia: 25 inf, 1 mech, 4 tank, 5 art

italy: 2 ftr, 1 bomber, 1 BB, 2or3 CC, 6 DD, 4 Subs

somthing seems very wrong here. alot of in fo is missing and i dont even know whats accurate or not lol…

i wanna find someone with a triple phd in ww2 history so they can set this up lmao

i cant seem to find a good website that shows where the military of any country was locted and what they were comprised of……

i can get super accurate details on navy. i didnt look for airforce yet, but land forces have almost no info

im going to stick to navies.

oh i know that. i plan on using D20’s

i dont know how accurate ur guys D20 combat mechanics are tho

ok. ill start working on it soon!

thanks alot. once i got the setup done im gunna do some playtesting. i think it will be heavily skewed for the allies.

one idea is to not give many transports to britain at all. your chart used merchant shipping as military transport so ill see what i can do

i dont like it. good idea but if you know you will lose the territory, you are inflicting extra damage to the attackers by getting more inf and damaging their IC.

wait i think i figured it out, your comparing the deployments on the pacific side to the European side.

Has anyone made a near perfect historical setup of global 1940 or will this be the first official one?

as i said earlier id like this to be historically accurate as possible and from there we can do balancing. id like to see 2 setups come from this.

IL, i can work on the european side now that i know that ratio is accurate. what info would you like me to use? i see u got pacific all done. between ur posts theres some discrepencies so i just wanna know what to work with

i think im confusing myself by overeading some of this. what difference do you speak of?

“The AAP40 historical setup is based on where these forces were and based on ratios established.”
^ so this is exactly historical according to the ratio chart you posted earlier with no compromise for balancing reasons?

because “Note: the Balance of the armed forces for AAE40” and Note: “Balance of US armed forces for AAE40 map:” are confusing me as to what they’re trying to do.

ok so that new list you just posted would be historically accurate in terms of the list provided?

and what does “Note: the Balance of the armed forces for AAE40” exactly mean? are units changed for balanced or is it all still historical?

ok thats alot of info. Hardest part is to know where these units were located. ex. 4 SZ around Britain what goes where?

Land:
5 infantry divisions = 1 unit
2 Armor Divisions = 1 unit
3 Motorized Divisions/ Mechanized = 1 unit
Artillery (subjective based on level of artillery in infantry and other factors)

Sea:
3 Battleships = 1 unit
4 Carriers = 1 unit
10 Cruisers = 1 unit
20 Destroyers = 1 unit
30 submarines = 1 unit
2,000,000 Gross Tons of Merchant Shipping ( rounded up) = 1 Unit

Air:
200-250 Front line Fighters = 1 unit
200-250 Front line Fighter- Bombers= 1 unit
450-500 Front line Bombers= 1 unit

Round up or down depending on quality overall.

^now with that chart, is this what a single unit in axis and allies represents? because if its different then units we buy each turn may be much less than what is historical because of unit prices. if spending 3 ipcs on an inf equals to about 3 infantry divisions for example, then we gotta change this chart.

Once the chart is complete, lets weed through the information to have the total of units for each nation, then eventually figure out where they would be located on a set date. how about June 5, 1940?? a day after dunkirk? or does the game begin before dunkirk? i dont remember.

Thanks for posting IL, put its kinda confusing. im going to take a look at the map when i get home and try to figure things out