In chess, which probably is more similar to this as it’s an individual sport without much change from year to year( mental sport with no roster changes, coaching changes , injuries or much age based decline) you absolutely base this years initial rating on last years final rating. Why not? We need as much data as we can especially in this situation with extremely low sample size.
Posts made by jkeller
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RE: League General Discussion Threadposted in League
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RE: League General Discussion Threadposted in League
I don’t really appreciate being used as a counter example here. I decided to take a break this year, but if you look at my results from last year you would see that I clearly belong in the M tier or you can ask any of my opponents. AAGamer absolutely deserves every one of those points.
As to the entire argument I have no issue with an elo rating system in general, as I am a lifelong avid chess player (Master there too fwiw) and it is generally pretty accurate. I would say that due to the length of time it takes to finish one of these games, and the resulting low sample size the ELO rating would be far less accurate because it does rely on a larger number of games to be accurate. In other words AA players just have too few games elo rating to be accurate.
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RE: Post League Game Results Hereposted in League
@andrewaagamer Sorry brother I forgot. Congratulations again on the championship !! 🍾🍾🍾
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RE: 2021 G40 OOB Final Playoff AndrewAAGamer (X) vs jkeller (A+50)posted in League
I’m sorry I just don’t have the time or energy or motivation right now to finish this one. I’ll go ahead and resign. I was hoping I could get back into it but you have waited long enough and you have played very well and deserve the victory. Congratulations!
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RE: 2021 G40 OOB Final Playoff AndrewAAGamer (X) vs jkeller (A+50)posted in League
yes you are right I am sorry. I will play today or tomorrow
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RE: 2021 G40 OOB Final Playoff AndrewAAGamer (X) vs jkeller (A+50)posted in League
@andrewaagamer Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 fighter moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan Place Units - ANZAC 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 16 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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RE: 2021 G40 OOB Final Playoff AndrewAAGamer (X) vs jkeller (A+50)posted in League
@andrewaagamer Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 4 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Queensland to 62 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Southern France Combat - Americans Battle in Celebes Battle in Holland Belgium Battle in Southern France Americans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Italians defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France Americans win, taking Celebes from Japanese, taking Holland Belgium from Germans, taking Southern France from Italians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Egypt 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 1 artillery moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Suriname to 88 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 bomber moved from Southern France to Gibraltar Place Units - Americans 2 fighters placed in Eastern United States 1 fighter placed in Western United States 1 infantry placed in Central United States 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 4 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 61 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese 13 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Hopei 8 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi Place Units - Chinese 5 infantry placed in Hopei Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 9 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 armour moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux Combat - British Battle in 125 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer Germans defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 125 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 125 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 125 Sea Zone Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in Normandy Bordeaux British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 2 infantry Italians defend with 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry Italians roll AA dice in Normandy Bordeaux : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the Italians, 2 artilleries owned by the Italians, 1 artillery owned by the British, 3 infantry owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux British win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Italians with 1 armour and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 41 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom 2 fighters moved from Egypt to Eastern Persia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Eastern Persia 1 bomber moved from Egypt to India 2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 2 infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 2 transports moved from 72 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo 1 infantry moved from West India to India 2 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone Place Units - British 2 transports placed in 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 1 bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Egypt: 1 bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 2 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 1.00 Italians regular : 1.00 Germans regular : 0.50 British regular : 2.50 Italians AA : -0.50 -
RE: 2021 G40 OOB Final Playoff AndrewAAGamer (X) vs jkeller (A+50)posted in League
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Baltic States 1 artillery moved from Belarus to Baltic States 2 armour, 3 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Iraq Combat - Russians Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Battle in Novgorod Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Iraq Russians attack with 2 armour, 3 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 3 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3.67 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians and 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq Russians win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 2 armour, 3 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Russians: 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 4 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 20 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov 10 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 aaGun moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Buryatia 4 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Buryatia 6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska 1 aaGun and 8 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Iraq to Egypt 2 fighters moved from Iraq to Caucasus Place Units - Russians 2 infantry placed in Volgograd 10 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 38 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.00 Russians regular : 1.17 Neutral_Axis regular : 1.00 -
RE: 2021 G40 OOB Final Playoff AndrewAAGamer (X) vs jkeller (A+50)posted in League
@andrewaagamer Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to France Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in France Germans roll AA dice in France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in France rolls: 8 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in France causes 6 damage total. Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from France to United Kingdom 1 armour moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Brazil to Suriname 1 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 1 carrier moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 3 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland 1 artillery moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone Americans undo move 1. 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in Eastern United States 1 infantry placed in Central United States 1 carrier and 3 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone Americans undo move 2. 2 fighters placed in Western United States Americans undo move 4. 1 fighter placed in Western United States 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States Americans undo move 4. 1 fighter placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Yunnan Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 3 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi Place Units - Chinese 5 infantry placed in Shensi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 10 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 16 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 airfield, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Szechwan: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Shensi: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Szechwan: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Shensi: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Szechwan: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Shensi: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 2 fighters moved from India to Shan State 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Shan State Combat - British Battle in Shan State British attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State British win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters moved from Shan State to India 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to India 2 aaGuns moved from Burma to India 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Burma to India 1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India 1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies 2 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 1 mech_infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Egypt 2 fighters moved from Malta to Egypt 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malta to Egypt 1 bomber moved from Malta to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia 1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Tanganyika Territory 1 cruiser moved from 76 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from New Brunswick Nova Scotia to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 armour moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to United Kingdom 1 battleship moved from 123 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 123 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 123 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 118 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 108 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone Place Units - British 1 airfield placed in Gibraltar 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 109 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 91 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 91 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 92 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 1.17 Japanese regular : 1.33 Germans AA : -0.17 British regular : 0.17