Posts made by jemo81

so in this case they would be considered as all other naval units making an attack and then desciding to wirhdraw in the next round?

if japan attacks the phillipines with 2 transporter full of 4 units and uses a battleship to TRY to clear the seazone around the phillipines. What happens witth the 2 japanese transporters if the US destroyer kills the battleship and the destroyer survives (as US this has happened to me twice now and once as japan)?

1. can the transporters retreat to another seazone from which one or both of them came
2. do they remain in the seazone along with the destroyer
3. they just die to the remaining destroyer

@randyshervandyke:

how about none!  2 factories to be placed in India and Egypt.

well first of all you don’t know if you even have egypt, and if japan plays they way they often do (going for the two british islands the “phillies” and kwantung), they are in a good position to hit india round 2 or 3. + you you force yourself to use minumum 9 ipc a round with uk, which means less focus on western europe.  in other words i’m secptic, but open to a good argument of course. So please elaborate on your 2 factory strategy.

@General:

Nope I haven’t tried a bomber.  I just see 2 tanks being better than 1 bomber.  What would I back it with?

All I see is in R3 is 9 German tanks on karellia and 10 German tanks in Poland.  I don’t know how to counter that without help.  I try to open the western front as soon as possible to divert some of the German panzer spam. I have started using the optional rule of closing the black sea… That way Italy cant use its units on a suicide attack to help the Germans overpower russia.  That makes it a bit fairer for russia…

But to balance it I also use the rule where you must own Gibraltar/Algeria to gain access to the med and also north west Europe to gain access to the Baltic.

My brother beat me playing allies using these rules… it helps to stop the Italians can opening the Russians for the Germans to blitz through next turn.

If germany is able to have that many tanks i r3, then your uk/us effort towards france seem to be in ruins. In my perspective uk and perhaps us (depending on outcome with japan and general mood) should always force the germans to divide their troops to avoid the allies getting a foothold on mainland europe (france typically).
Regarding the bomber, then you should use …infantery of course, since you are russia and have a s…load of then and they don’t cost that much. buy a bomber pr round for 2 or 3 rounds.

we never play with the optional rule of closing the black sea. In relation to the italians, try building 3 bombers in round 1 with the us, and in round 2 you can have 5 bombers in london ready to kill the italian navy. in round 2 the us could/should launch a force against north africa to prevent an italian no. Italy MUST DIE asap (and if not possible prevent then from getting their NOs as this enables the germans to forget about france and let italy do it for them). hence the 5 US bombers. perhaps even combine then with a sub or 2 to force the italians to build naval units (destroyers).

If the germans are still to strong consider SRB from london. Just realised that my comments may be quite fragmented; sorry for that. But in any case, get scandinavia asap, as it is a pain in the a… for germany to retake and you then only need 1 more territory for russia to get their 10 NO bonus.

all tanks does not sound too bad. as long as you invest in some heavy firepower and don’t go all inf, then it should be okay i would say.

have you tried other approaches than the 6 tank build - e.g. the bomber approach?

@Adlertag:

UK 1 you must buy 1 dd and/or 1 cv, the rest depends

I would say that the dd buy would depend on whether germany has any remaning subs after g1, as the dd can’t help in any way if the axis leaves the UK navy alone.

how about 2 carriers and the use the US fighters.

@Subotai:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=44492&package_id=119711&release_id=686735

thx :D

@General:

I’m still losing with the allies to skilled axis players.  :(  Try Try Try again.

I cant get an invasion force going until turn 3 at the earliest and even then russia is on its knees. :(

what is your approach and buys with russia.
you usually get 30+ (i very rarely go below 30 with nos) which COULD be used to buy 1 bomber (12), 1inf (3), 1 tank for mobility and cost free blitzability(5). that costs 20 ipc total, and then the rest could be used on cheap units with a bit firepower such as 2 inf supported with 1 art at the price of 10 ipc total. Again I would recomend against buying fighters instead of bombers IF the axis is far from moscow as bombers range and kill-power are just so much better for the louzy 2 extra ipc. Of course if the axis is on the doorsteps, the 4 defensive dice for the fighters might be considered, but otherwise never if you ask me.
p.s. your are not building navy with russia are you? (joke, but just making sure)

could anyone please post a link to the new version, as I can’t seem to find anything other than version 1.0.0.3

thx

@bugoo:

…On UK1, 1 AC, 3 transports, or 2 transports and a DD if I absolutely have to.  You can buy more boats on UK2 to reinforce your navy if needed…

hey, just came to think about something:
Why do you wanna buy 3 transports in round 1? I only assume that to be nessesary in the case where you loose all your transports in the atlantic, since you will only be albe to move 5 units anyway (4 in London and 1 tank i canada) and you don’t buy any troops to your transport.

@AdmiralNagano:

I love playing Russia. Lots of space to trade while you build up for the counter-attack…

what do you then build up for the counter? planes and fodder or tanks or a big mix?

attack egypt round 1 and do SBR on london.

with japanese strike all the possible islands from r1 and on

i have never played with victory cities in AA50 and don’t plan to atm.

Do you play with VCs?

why/why not?

What impact do you think is has on the game?

I read you DM on the issue with max possible shores, but have also found that the ability to soak a hit or 3 can have a disencouraging effect on the germans, so perhaps the “truth” is something in between :)

in any case I am very fond of the cheep solution for the british to build AC’s and use US fighters on them to quickly gain a strong defence of capital ships to cover transports.  Ideally the british are able to launch 4 full transports at round 3 or maybe even round 2 if the germans lost alot of airplanes

Personally i prefer the UK or Japan as i like messing around with navy units and having some options in my game.

However, after having great sucess with building russian bombers, they have also grown on me, but still doesn’t rival the two above.

A strategy for the allies that has a very good sucess rate for me personally, is to research for the 3 allied fractions to do the following:

US: to research EVERY round with at least 3 active dices (if you don’t get the research with the first 3 dices, buy another one the next round so you got 4) until heavy bombers and long range aircraft is achieved, and then bomb the s… out of german production + sink the japanese and italian fleets if they are still alive.

UK: build up navy hvile preventing Italy from getting both NO’s and preferably none, but one might be much more achievable. Secondly, take scandinavia in order to make the 2nd russian NO (10ipc) possible, while putting a 1-4 infantery into NWE to annoy the axis, as they need to retake the territory to get one of the german NOs.

Russia: build 1 bomber pr turn until you get 3, as this vil enable you to hit all the deadzone areas in eastern europe (where the germans need to be to get another of their NOs) at low cost (a 2 inf + 1 bomber attack will easily take out 1 inf protecting a teritory). Russian bombers are MUCH MUCH more effective than fighters, as russians should use their inf. for defence and never fighters unless as a last resort. Secondly the extra range of the bombers allows you to reach much more targets without having to land in unsecure territories. Thridly, if things are going well, you can always use the bombers to do SBR on your favorite axis enemy :)

good questions you arise regarding where the uk should strike first. normally i would strik against norway and or finland or perhaps throw some inf into NWE to annoy the germans. BUT, in any case I would clain that any british navy should be stron enough to avoid the germans desciding to throw their airforce against it to “canel each othter out”, as the typical rapid decline i UK income oten makes rebuilding a strong navy near impossible. Thus going for an extra transporter or 2 in round one, might be to risky.

In general my main goal with UKs fleet is to put so much preasure on the germans to give the russians some air and help them gaim their 2 NO.

Does your comments mean that you never or only very rarely go for the capital ships, and how is your perception regarding shorebombardments compared to the investment that is required?

what kind of navy should UK use their 43 ipc on in round 1.

in my playgroup we have many times build:

1. 2 battleship to get some hit-soaking ability and some heavy shores.
2. 2 carriers + 1 cruiser to get heavy defence with the help from 2 us fighters.

what do you prefer any of the above, or do you use a different approach when goind navy with the UK

If the Allies can effectively help russia and in the process saving russia for 5 IPc or more AND if the Allies couldn’t use their forces with better result tjen yes. Unfortunately it would be very individual when those requirements are met, and it would change from time to time obviously. Personallly I have done so on a number of occations e.g. taking out japanese navy units with US bomber and landed in eastern russia etc.