@ksmckay said in Post League Game Results Here:
Axis Dominion (axis) over ksmckay (allies +22) in League Championship. Well played and well deserved. Congrats!
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/37554/2020-championship-axis-dominion-vs-ksmckay-22/289
Congratz to AD. Hail to the new league champion, well deserved!
@farmboy said in L22 BM Me1945 (X) vs. farmboy (+20):
@me1945 said in L22 BM Me1945 (X) vs. farmboy (+20):
From my experience UK fleet move to sz92 in R1 is the best one.
Yeah. That is what I think too. But this is an interesting counter to it. Definitely risky and probably a move that requires a quicker axis victory or it will start to benefit the allies. But we will see.
Wheatbeer surprised me with that move once, too, but he didn’t have the logistics to follow up on it and miserably failed and the game was over after 3 turns or so.
However, against a naval G1 and against ME1945, who always loved to take SF G1 the Gib attack is more efficient with an extra mech in range.
I have to say, I would have certainly tried to attack the Italians at Spain with the Blue men. The French ground units have no better job to do and you can get lucky there and if R1 does not go as planned, you can at least save the blue fig. And in case you manage to retake the whole G2 is getting more complicated and more costly because the SF mech couldn’t have joined = extra plane, the Germans would have lost.
Gratz re AD and well played farmboy.
I really believe you had serious winning chances in this one. The Germans were on the rope and even Japan was slightly behind schedule, until they took Anzac
Even after Anzac got lost I think the Allies still had a good position. But then it slipped away somehow.
Again, well played both and it was fun to watch!
@trulpen said in Post League Game Results Here:
Playoff finals BM4
Congratz AD, back to back Champion!
@elche said in Elche (+18) vs Gamerman01 (x) BM4 rematch:
The fig in sz111 was nice.
Looks interesting without Vichy and german Navy. Never had a planed non-Vichy game.
Or will you attack with Italians ? If not I can use french ships and inf in Northafrika ?
I believe, in the long run, Vichy hurts the Axis more than it helps in total.
There are certainly benefits, especially if Axis goes for some kind of Blitz on a certain objective.
In case Axis is not afraid of having a longer game, slowly grinding their way through, the income benefits and extra territories for bases Allies get outweigh the early benefits Axis gets.
@andrewaagamer said in 2020 Playoff AndrewAAGamer (X) vs JDOW (L+58) OOB:
Oh - and it looks like if I want to expand the number of potential Players on this website I will need to add BM3 to my playlist. :)
Yes, as always one is hesitant in the beginning and A&A is already a complex game and one should be careful to add complexity.
But BM really did a great job to further balance the game (although Axis still has the advantage) and to add more spice to the game with marines and more NOs plus the partisan rule and Vichy.
@gamerman01 said in 2022 BM Playoff R2 Me1945 v Gamerman01 (+24):
What a smack in the mouth, you pop back in and call me out for hypocrisy! :fearful:
It was a nice break for a while, here. Without you or Bold, nobody has been poking me.
A guy can adjust his strategy a little over the years, right?
Yes, absolutely. There was no poking intended, just the opposite. I wanted to share once more who taught me countless lessons in A&A and whose style always inspired me:)
(You are most welcome to comment as long as it doesn’t interfere with Me1945’s zen, don’t get me wrong)
<cough> I bought only 2 in the Pacific theater, though. The carrier buy US1 in the Atlantic is especially when I scramble G1 because Carrier can go out to sea with 2 planes US2 and that is the only way you can get fighters to London or Scotland US3 (crazy JDOW1’s excepted). I don’t know if anyone else ever takes advantage of the little 102 while USA is neutral rule :sunglasses: - I take some pride in that one.
I also like to think no one goes as light in the Pacific with carriers as I do but of course I can’t know that for sure either. :thinking_face:
I agree no one goes lighter with Carriers than you and as said, I only wanted to express this always reminds me not to overbuy them. Always ask: what juice boats with attack value, planes or amphibious units I can buy instead:)
Vs J3 there isn’t much the US can buy in the Pacific and as the German fleet is still active, Allies need at least some kind of naval defense when trying to join the action in the European theatre.
Interesting game so far, will be fun to watch.
Good luck to both of you. See you around!
Ah and regarding no attachments can be posted: Back then, this happened frequently when the forum server was simply full.
I guess the admins have to run a purge and remove attachments from older games, that’s why, in case you browse the forum to look up older games, you won’t find any attachments in those threads.
Good luck to both players!
Rough start for the Axis so far. Losing 5 Japanese ground J1 hurts. German rolls could also have been better.
But Farmboy got Axis very cheaply, thus some 14-18 less Allies IPCs on the map compared to matches in which no player is as keen on playing Allies as Gamerman is:)
@gamerman01
Friend, I take that personal. I didn‘t do noting;-)
J/k
In fact, Japan got even on dice. At least. The airstrike plus DOW dice make up for the early losses.
Ready to resign now? :-)
Yes!
I overlooked can openers on both sides of the map. Time to resign to save the sz91 fleet from total annihilation.
Thanks Gamerman! It was a great pleasure and an honor to play you in my first league game! I learned A LOT during that game.
Regards,
Tobias
Congratulations to both of you for engaging in the most epic battle I have ever witnessed in a top-tier competition encounter.
Congratz to Adam for pulling it through as long as it took the Axis to slowly but steadily climb the mountain until reaching the summit. Very well played!
It was truly a roller coaster ride in terms of determining who was in the lead.
Initially, I thought the Allies were doomed after the incredible dice rolls in G1 and G2. Although there was a hiccup in Yunnan, everything else seemed to be going smoothly for the Axis.
Then, I was astonished by how quickly the Allies managed to establish a foothold in Europe, and I found myself favoring their position.
But the tide turned again, and once Moscow fell, it was clear that the Axis had the upper hand (following the rule of thumb: when both India and Moscow fall without significant concessions, the Axis typically emerges victorious). Although the Germans had to make concessions to capture Moscow, the possibility of retaking France made it evident that the Axis were pulling ahead.
Yet, the momentum shifted once more, and it became apparent that Japan couldn’t swiftly secure a VC victory. At this point, I found myself favoring the Allied position again.
However, the situation took a turn for the worse for the Allies, and the Axis gained complete control once more, rapidly deteriorating the Allied position. I was not really sure what happened here.
The situation became so dire for the Axis that not even a +263 battle at WGR (discounting some negative TUX exchanges before the UK battle) could turn the tide. Despite the Germans losing around 28 planes, the Axis were still prevailing.
One aspect I believe the Allies could have handled differently was adopting a more aggressive stance in the Pacific. They focused solely on fortifying Hawaii and Sydney, neglecting to contest the islands or send planes to support China. While I understand this is easier said than done, I think the Allies became too complacent and should have taken more risks while preventing a Japanese VC rush, thereby allowing US to build more transports, recapture islands, and wreck havoc in China with US air strikes. Additionally, the Allies retained UK planes in China for too long, where they failed to have the desired impact and were disconnected from their ground units.
It appears that there was a critical juncture in the game where the Allies had to decide whether to permit Japan risky battles at Hawaii or Sydney, potentially leading to either victory or defeat depending on the outcome, or to endure a slow death, as they ultimately opted for in this particular game.
Furthermore, the Japanese expedition to Africa was foreseeable, and I believe the Allies could have taken more precautions. This excursion proved to be highly beneficial for the Axis, completely disrupting any momentum the Allies had in Europe.
Also I believe Allies MUST attack South America before allowing Japan to land there, regardless of whether the units will be missed elsewhere.
A few questions to @Adam514
I was intrigued by the maneuvering of your primary German force following the initial capture of Moscow. There seemed to be some oscillation, allowing the Russians to regain control temporarily before mounting a strong offensive to retake Moscow. Was this part of your strategic plan, or did you adapt your tactics midway, perhaps accepting a less-than-ideal outcome in the short term?
It appears to me that you could have mitigated even more damage in WGR by mobilizing all Italian forces before the +263 battle took place. Was there a deliberate decision to spare the Italians?
Hypothetically, if the Allies had achieved a top 10-20% dice outcome, with the US preserving a significant number of fighters and the UK minimizing losses during subsequent attacks, do you believe this could have tipped the balance in favor of the Axis? Considering that the Allies would have had two full turns to fortify Berlin against ~75 mech and 23 tanks rushing to recapture it. How apprehensive were you before that crucial battle?
@Myygames My view on LL is just an opinion and personal preference. There is nothing wrong at all about LL, it’s just not for me. Coming from a semi-pro poker background, I find the element of chance to be an essential ingredient, adding an extra layer of complexity that fascinates me.
@jkeller said in L24 BM4 jkeller(Axis) vs axis-dominion(Allies+20):
I am pretty disgusted with how this game went last round of moves so I will probably just forfeit it and I would love to start a new one with you after that but if you don’t mind since I have limited time right now I will focus on advancing my other ongoing games first so it might be a couple weeks. In the meantime I will see if I have the will to play this one out.
I believe it’s premature to give up at this point. I’ve heard you’re a strong chess player. In chess terms, I’d say you’re perhaps a pawn down with not much compensation, around -0.8 to -1.2, but not a piece down or more. Against Stockfish, it might look grim, but against any human opponent and factoring in luck, there’s still a game left for the Axis.
You have several advantages slowing down the Axis, such as a strong Italian ground force in Africa that will be difficult to eliminate and a healthy Italian fleet that will require significant effort to sink. Additionally, you have a fierce defense in Caro. Japan may appear worse off than it is; it can retake islands, and the Allies have almost no loaded transports.
However, Japan is overstretched. Against 17 or 18 + 2 Siberian Russians, it’s better not to commit to going north. Instead, maintain a stalemate at Manchuria and focus your efforts on keeping India and China small, along with enough troops for island warfare.
Throw everything into breaking through to Volgo and the Caucasus as soon as possible. Even if this might risk allowing the Russians a potentially game-winning attack (I didn’t run numbers), but if they succeed, you can safely resign. If the dice roll in your favor, you’re back in the game. If the Russians hesitate, you can gain some ground.
I apologize for offering unsolicited advice. AD and I are friends, and he was disappointed you wanted to resign, so I took another look. Knowing AD, he prefers competitive positions, so his disappointment suggests he wouldn’t resign as the Axis.
“You have several advantages slowing down the Axis”
Must read “Allies” of course
@jkeller said in L24 BM4 jkeller(Axis) vs axis-dominion(Allies+20):
Going for Egypt with med play in this version is so difficult to pull off withGermany having to make plane buys, planes being out of position, Italy needing some good dice, etc. […]
I don’t think there’s an easy way for the Axis to take Egypt by force early on if the Allies play correctly, whether in Vanilla or BM. Losing Egypt early as the Allies typically happens due to one of three reasons:
If the Allies play cautiously and anticipate potential Axis moves, they should be able to hold Egypt early. However, this often comes at the cost of delaying other priorities such as a stronghold in 110 for example.
@GovZ said in L24 bm4 axis-dom (axis) vs farmboy (allies+17) #3:
Games like this are why I prefer low luck.
Games like this is why I prefer no low luck.
Gamblers ans those who watch the gambles need being reminded from time to time that aggressive play can lead to quick game losses:-)
@axis-dominion game on, we await #4.
play a safe opener this time and show if you can beat the champ the „boring“ way or whether good dice early on are required to stand a chance vs Farmboy‘s deadly Allies.
Amazing game, gratz AD!
The key takeaway seems to be that if the Germans cause enough havoc, the Axis can still succeed, even without much support from the Luftwaffe for a while.
There has to be a better way to counter JDOW4 though. I can’t believe J4 is that dominant.