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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 3

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 artillery and 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Eastern Poland Russians take Eastern Poland from Italians 1 armour moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia Russians take Bessarabia from Italians 1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Novgorod 2 infantry moved from Smolensk to Novgorod 9 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad 2 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northwest Persia Russians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies Place Units - Russians 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine 10 infantry placed in Russia 2 infantry placed in Siberia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 47 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 49 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 51 PUs

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@Private-Panic Austria is up

@The_Good_Captain I’ve watched your first few videos about A&A: Europe (1999) and your comment about the game being a 6-round affair sort of struck a chord with me.

I think E&W is similar, except that it’s “1d6 rounds” owing mainly to how soon the USSR can get the first nuclear bomb tech. Granted, their economy needs to be strong enough that they can afford to build a bomb while maintaining parity in terms of land units.

The issue is that NATO generally can’t counter-attack anywhere on rd1; if the Soviets spread their Pacific fleet properly, they can insulate Korea as well as Kamchatka. The only place that’s usually left open is Yugoslavia. The adjunct to that is generally the USSR spends all of rd2 attacking neutrals, which NATO can do nothing about; since there is no “Pro-neutral” type of mechanic within the designs, NATO can’t lend support/deterrence to neutrals that are vulnerable to attack (i.e. on the Soviet border.)

If the strongest weapon in NATO’s arsenal is the US attack in the far east (which takes til rd3 to reasonably get new transports involved in a landing) you’re at least halfway along the doomsday countdown by that point.

Even if NATO is splitting their fleets to mitigate the effects of a nuke, I think that having to rebuild, say, 3 transports in the Pacific is more cost-intensive than the USSR having to crank out another nuke – particularly if their income is anywhere in the 70 UPC range. If India is bottled up, you end up in a situation of the UK basically throwing good money after bad, just to maintain the status quo, with no real potential of ever swinging the momentum, from that position. Never mind the costs NATO is going to incur trying to keep up on spying.

I think the Kamchatka landing can absolutely work, but it’s a lot easier if NATO can sway China (hard, if not impossible) and they absolutely need to be pushing past Eastern Siberia within “1d6 rounds.” Otherwise the game just deteriorates until NATO slowly dies to nukes. Even when I’ve had NATO making grand offensives to try and keep the economics of the game from stagnating, they either can’t sustain it because the USSR absorbs and counter-attacks everything, or they’re forced to pivot off of one position to bail out another, and all momentum is lost in the process.

NATO has time in which to gamble, but they don’t have the economic edge in this game – and they have all the drawbacks of the Allies, always needing to build up their logistics chain (and spying!) before they can really even act. They’re on the back foot from the word ‘go’ and they have only a handful of rounds to do something decisive.

@surfer SZ 55 2 AZ fig on 1 UK CV

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 14 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 23 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Smolensk to Russia 2 fighters moved from Finland to Russia 1 fighter moved from Northern Belarus to Russia 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians 1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel Germans take Archangel from Russians 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Norway to 115 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 130 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 130 Sea Zone to Nenetsia Combat - Germans Battle in Nenetsia Battle in 107 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 2 submarines Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 destroyers and 1 fighter in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 107 Sea Zone Germans win, taking Nenetsia from Russians with 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Battle in Russia Germans attack with 14 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 23 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 28 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 1/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Russia Germans roll dice for 14 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 23 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 : 19/57 hits, 21.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 1 fighter and 28 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 10/29 hits, 10.00 expected hits 10 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia 17 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 aaGuns owned by the Russians lost in Russia Germans roll dice for 14 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 13 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 3 : 17/47 hits, 19.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 11 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 5/12 hits, 4.33 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia 11 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Russia Germans captures 43PUs while taking Russians capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 14 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 8 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 49 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 15 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns, 1 fighter and 28 infantry triggerRussiansDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to Russians Non Combat Move - Germans 3 aaGuns moved from Smolensk to Russia 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 4 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Smolensk 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Northern Belarus 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy 1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 107 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 122 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Finland to Norway 1 artillery moved from Finland to Vyborg 2 transports moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Germany to Austria 1 armour moved from Germany to Yugoslavia 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Germany to 117 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad 2 fighters moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 bomber moved from Russia to Finland 1 bomber moved from Russia to Greece 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Eastern Poland 2 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Leningrad Place Units - Germans 1 factory_minor placed in Leningrad 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter placed in 113 Sea Zone 1 armour and 4 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 95 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 98 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 103 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 106 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 116 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.50 Russians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -3.50 Russians AA : 0.00

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@FranceNeedsMorePower …France doesn’t exist in any Historical “1943” setup. Its a typical vassal of Germany at this time. I would order more white flags. Thats all they can build until June 6th 44’

@Gorshak as I test my USA turn I see that the game doesn’t correctly represent the Anz fgt’s in z35. One should be on a USA CV, and the other on the Anz CV. Need to clarify this before America’s turn begins.

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 6 Combat Move - British 1 Artillery and 1 Elite moved from Wales to 18 Sea Zone 1 Artillery, 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 1 Elite and 1 Transport moved from 18 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone 1 Artillery and 1 Elite moved from 30 Sea Zone to Azores 4 Fighters moved from 18 Sea Zone to Azores 2 Infantrys moved from Lower Egypt to 56 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 56 Sea Zone to Crete 2 Infantrys moved from Lower Egypt to 56 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 56 Sea Zone to Mersa Matruh 2 Adv.Fighters moved from 56 Sea Zone to Kufra 2 Fighters moved from 56 Sea Zone to Mersa Matruh 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys moved from New Valley to Kufra 1 Tank moved from Delhi to Assam 1 Bomber moved from Bombay to Assam 1 Fighter moved from Bombay to Hyderabad 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 2 Infantrys moved from Rajputana to Hyderabad 1 Infantry moved from Delhi to Hyderabad 1 Infantry moved from Delhi to Hyderabad 1 Cruiser and 1 Transport moved from 59 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone 1 Artillery and 1 Elite moved from W.Iran to 58 Sea Zone 1 Infantry moved from Italian East Africa to 58 Sea Zone 1 Artillery, 1 Cruiser, 1 Elite, 1 Infantry and 1 Transport moved from 58 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry moved from 59 Sea Zone to Mysore Purchase Units - British British buy 2 Bunkers, 1 Destroyer, 1 Elite, 25 Infantrys, 1 Submarine, 1 T.Boat and 2 Tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - British Battle in Azores British attack with 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 4 Fighters Neutral defend with 1 Infantry British roll dice for 1 Battleship and 1 Cruiser in Azores, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Neutral lost in Azores British loses 0 PUs for violating Azoress neutrality. British win, taking Azores from Neutral with 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 4 Fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Neutral: 1 Infantry Battle in Mysore British attack with 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry Hisaichi defend with 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry British roll dice for 1 Cruiser in Mysore, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Hisaichi lost in Mysore British roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry in Mysore, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery in Mysore, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in Mysore 1 Artillery owned by the Hisaichi lost in Mysore British win, taking Mysore from Hisaichi with 1 Artillery and 1 Elite remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry Casualties for British: 1 Infantry Battle in Hyderabad British attack with 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 4 Infantrys Hisaichi defend with 4 Infantrys British roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 4 Infantrys in Hyderabad, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 4 Infantrys in Hyderabad, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in Hyderabad 2 Infantrys owned by the Hisaichi lost in Hyderabad British roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 3 Infantrys in Hyderabad, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 2 Infantrys in Hyderabad, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in Hyderabad 1 Infantry owned by the Hisaichi lost in Hyderabad British roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys in Hyderabad, round 4 : 4/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Infantry in Hyderabad, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Hisaichi lost in Hyderabad British win, taking Hyderabad from Hisaichi with 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for British: 2 Infantrys Casualties for Hisaichi: 4 Infantrys Battle in Assam British attack with 1 Bomber and 1 Tank Hisaichi defend with 1 Infantry British roll dice for 1 Bomber and 1 Tank in Assam, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Infantry in Assam, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Hisaichi lost in Assam British win, taking Assam from Hisaichi with 1 Bomber and 1 Tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Infantry Battle in Crete British attack with 2 Infantrys Italians defend with 1 AAGun and 1 Infantry British roll dice for 2 Battleships in Crete, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Italians lost in Crete British win, taking Crete from Italians with 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Italians: 1 Infantry Battle in Mersa Matruh British attack with 2 Fighters and 2 Infantrys Italians defend with 1 Infantry British roll dice for 1 Battleship and 1 Cruiser in Mersa Matruh, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 2 Fighters and 2 Infantrys in Mersa Matruh, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Mersa Matruh, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in Mersa Matruh British roll dice for 2 Fighters and 1 Infantry in Mersa Matruh, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Mersa Matruh, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 2 Fighters and 1 Infantry in Mersa Matruh, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Mersa Matruh, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in Mersa Matruh 1 Infantry owned by the Italians lost in Mersa Matruh British win with 2 Fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for British: 2 Infantrys Casualties for Italians: 1 Infantry Battle in Kufra British attack with 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys Italians defend with 2 Infantrys British roll dice for 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys in Kufra, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 Infantrys in Kufra, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kufra British roll dice for 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys in Kufra, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Kufra, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kufra British win, taking Kufra from Italians with 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Italians: 2 Infantrys Non Combat Move - British 2 Fighters moved from Mersa Matruh to 56 Sea Zone 2 Adv.Fighters moved from Kufra to 56 Sea Zone 1 Infantry moved from Lower Egypt to New Valley 3 Tanks moved from New Valley to Cairo 2 Transports moved from 59 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Tank moved from Italian East Africa to 58 Sea Zone 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys, 1 Tank and 2 Transports moved from 58 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone 2 Tanks moved from Bombay to Delhi 1 Fighter moved from Hyderabad to Bombay 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Tank moved from 59 Sea Zone to Rajputana 1 Bomber moved from Assam to Delhi 1 AAGun moved from Manchester to 18 Sea Zone 1 T.Boat moved from 18 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 AAGun, 2 Carriers, 3 Destroyers, 1 Submarine and 2 Transports moved from 18 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone 4 Fighters moved from Azores to 30 Sea Zone 1 AAGun moved from 30 Sea Zone to Azores 3 Infantrys and 1 Tank moved from Dover to Wales 2 Infantrys moved from London to Manchester 1 Destroyer, 2 Infantrys, 1 Submarine and 1 Transport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone Place Units - British 2 Tanks placed in Bombay 1 Elite and 4 Infantrys placed in Delhi 1 Bunker and 6 Infantrys placed in Cairo 1 T.Boat placed in 20 Sea Zone 1 Destroyer and 1 Submarine placed in 21 Sea Zone 1 Bunker and 3 Infantrys placed in Wales 2 Infantrys placed in Manchester 3 Infantrys placed in W.Iran 3 Infantrys placed in Italian East Africa 4 Infantrys placed in London Turn Complete - British British collect 93 PUs; end with 93 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.00 British regular : 1.33 Hisaichi regular : 0.00

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