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Defenceless transport rules need revision

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Hi Darth,

Is it The Expansion (1st Expansion) from Gamers Paradise that you refer to - for use with the A&A Classic version ?

A&A Gamers Paradise, 6.JPG
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cwglee51 (Allies+40) vs SImon33 (Axis) G40 rematch

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@simon33 well this suddenly got interesting…sorry about that, admittedly it was a complete hail mary and i didn’t even really prepare it right in the chance i did win.
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Simon33 (Axis) vs VictoryFirst (Allies+50) G40

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@simon33 Yep, that’s correct. What about intercepting in Western Germany? I am attacking with two fighters and two bombers, you have two fighters that can intercept.
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BM4 Amon-Sul (Allies +15) vs. Pejon_88 (Axis)

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@Pejon_88 said in BM4 Amon-Sul (Allies +15) vs. Pejon_88 (Axis):

@Amon-Sul Cool! Will look at the map and make a plan :)

Take ur time :)
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L24 PtV Gorshak (Axis+8) vs 666 (Allies) #1

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scramble option at the horn of Africa
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L26 BM4 Ghostglider vs Pejon_88(+21 allied)

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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 9 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 3 carriers and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 3 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 3 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Americans take 17 Sea Zone from Japanese 3 fighters moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 10 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 125 Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands 2 fighters moved from Western United States to Aleutian Islands 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Holland Belgium Americans take Holland Belgium from Germans Combat - Americans Battle in Norway Battle in Yugoslavia Americans attack with 3 fighters and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Yugoslavia 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia Americans win, taking Norway from Germans with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry Battle in Aleutian Islands Americans attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Aleutian Islands, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Aleutian Islands, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Aleutian Islands Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Aleutian Islands, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Aleutian Islands, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Aleutian Islands Americans win, taking Aleutian Islands from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7 Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Northern Italy Americans attack with 3 fighters and 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy Americans win, taking Northern Italy from Italians with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in 6 Sea Zone ANZAC loiter and taunt; Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 submarine Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone Americans win, taking 6 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Battle in 20 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 10 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 submarine Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 10 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 7/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 20 Sea Zone Americans win, taking 20 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 destroyer, 10 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 10 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 battleship, 9 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines moved from 21 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 submarine moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 carriers moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Aleutian Islands to 8 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 8 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 125 Sea Zone to Norway 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Yugoslavia to 97 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Northern Italy to Greece 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Greece 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Southern France 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Western United States Americans undo move 2. 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Greece 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Central United States 2 fighters placed in Western United States 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 71 PUs; end with 71 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 91 PUs Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 96 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 101 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 106 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 111 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Burma: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to India: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 10 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 10 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 10 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/10 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 10 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 3/10 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Yunnan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 1 PU; end with 2 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 2 marines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone Combat - British British creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone Battle in Yugoslavia Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 4 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 3 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Northwest Persia 1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from India to Yunnan 2 aaGuns moved from Burma to Yunnan 27 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 3 infantry moved from Burma to India 1 battleship moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Norway 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 125 Sea Zone to Norway 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 marine moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux 7 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Norway 3 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Norway 6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 cruisers moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Greece 1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Greece Place Units - British 2 fighters and 2 marines placed in United Kingdom 3 infantry placed in Egypt 3 infantry placed in Iraq Turn Complete - British British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Objective British 2 Southern Europe Beach Head: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.33 Americans regular : 0.83 Italians regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : -0.67 Germans regular : 0.67
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2025 Playoff-final - Ghostglider vs Adam514 (allied +22)

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Congratulations to both players for qualifying and to Adam for the win, is this the third championship for Adam514? I am wondering about a couple of moves in the early stages if I may comment. From the Allies, i am wondering if an air strafe of fic and/or sending the dd to kill the Borneo transport would have been better. The air strafe world have allowed artillery to be bought early iirc, assuming it succeeded. I can live with the decision taken but it doesn’t stop me from wondering.

From the axis, many people shy away from the j1 dow in bm but assuming it is done in this way, i shy away from the attack on the sz37 bb, rightly or wrongly. One thing I can’t see is why the sz33 cv wasn’t used to defend the Borneo transport. This really out back Japan’s progress. I think am Overland route should take down India after a j1 on j5 unless a counter attack succeeds somewhere along the way. I had to work out the merit in using sz33 cv by trial and error but when i checked it was right there in the Japan playbook.

I also didn’t like the conquest of Normandy. What did the European axis gain from this attack? Maybe it was 4ipc but usa were then able to churn out units from this ic for most of the game.

At this point, i am going to plug my French rebalance which removes the ridiculous incentive to leave Normandy and s France French and takes care of a few other minor limitations, but uses about half of the changes from bm.

Sorry for the criticisms, I am sure I would have stuffed up other things against against Adam. Again, great work to get to the final for both players.
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Two quick questions.

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Hi, my nephew and I are gonna start this game and while the rules seem simple enough I just have two questions I’d be grateful if someone could clarify:

1). If you have just moved naval units into an enemy sea zone do you have to attack enemy units (and would the same apply to later reinforcements you bring in)? Also, can you retreat after any round of rolls in naval battles?

2). When moving initially into a new enemy territory you have to attack with all units but it says you can choose not to in subsequent turns or when you reinforce. But I’m just unclear if the defending side has to attack with all its force during its first turn after being attacked or if it can forgo attacking?

Any help would be awesome.

Cheers,

Andrew

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