That’s the reason why I try not to pre-order but wait until the shops get it. By the time you add in shipping to the discounted pre-order prices, it usually costs more than MSRP. Damn shipping. To make it worth my while, I would need to pre-order like 10 to go below MSRP.
Also coolstuffinc.com doesn’t offer free shipping to Hawaii or Alaska!
Ebay sometimes is cheaper even with shipping costs, but you need to hunt for the bargains.
idk_iam_swiss, please try to setup the AA1942 board and play it as is, you will see by round 3 there is not enough space in Europe for all your units. I meant small to mean that the actual territories (map size) are too small to place all your units, look at the size of the bombers alone. I’m pretty sure that’s why IL made the map. I could be wrong. But the few times our group has played it that and running out of Japanese armor was our biggest gripe. We ended up using German armor as Japanese with a flag underneath it. Come on 8 Japanse armor? What was WotC/AH thinking?
Its not “too small” for a begginer, Save your money. If you find out you like this game. I recomend getting the one coming out this december. Its going to be part of a two part series and youll find the map (just pacific) is larger than your current one. The two together will more than likely take up your ENTIRE kitchen table.
I hope I’m not the only one getting confused as to what is in AAP40 vs. what people want.
Subs rule the sea! UK needs to invest heavy in dd’s to keep the convoy zones.
Krieghund: as always thanks for your answers! The answer is free since it didn’t meet the 30 minute guarantee. (Just joking)
IL: as always insightful.
TDJ, +1 karma for the humor!
Adlertag had a suggestion for AA50 about Russia purchasing subs in Cauc Sz to take out the Italian fleet and I think you can use the same thought and buy 2 subs in Sz 15 to take out the German Med fleet. It’s a idea.
TANKS ARE STRONG
TANKS ARE STRONG
@The:
Gnasape, yes, that is from Caspian Sub and their papers. :-P :-D I just had to throw that in there for effect. Russia probably needs more tanks than Germany early in the game, IMHO.
As for AA1942, after playing against the computer on Triple A, it would appear to me at any rate, that with Belo and EUkr in German hands to begin with, those both have to be eliminated, meaning no navy there either. However, I would think after a few rounds it might not hurt to try a naval buy out. But buy lots of guys first. In '42, at least another fighter to support the other one and bomber.
IL or Krieghund;
Would either of you know if you need a surface ship to hold the convoy zone or will it be like AAE where having a sub is enough?
Thank you
TDJ that’s classic. Mr. T. says “Tanks are strong!” Is that from the Caspian Sub paper?
Blitz2: It never hurts to try but I would have to agree with both Dan and TDJ, buy ground forces.
It might work in AA 1942 but not really in revised?
EM if it’s anything like your last game against Tim, I have my popcorn ready for a slugfest.
@Emperor:
Jermofoot-
I’ve seen you on the Political and General boards for several years, but not on any of the game boards. Do you play A&A? Care to engage in a friendly game? AA50-41 is the soup de jur these days.
:lol:
I do believe someone just threw down the gauntlet!
Doh! :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
I would give myself a -1 karma if I could.
As always, thank you Krieghund.
Now if only you could improve on the response time! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
(It’s a joke just in case you didn’t get it).
The sequence of events on page 16 of the rulebook for combat step 2 indicate that submerging occurs before surprise strikes do.
Krieghund, you are probably refering to AA 1942 rulebook, my page 16 of the AA 50 rulebook shows (tanks and blitzing, transports, and phase 4 conduct combat? Where can we get the same reference in the AA50 rulebook?
AA 1942 rulebook clarified issues but AA50 rulebook is still a little off
Thank you in advance for your “crystal ball” knowledge.
Putting this back for Krieghund, so he doesn’t miss it.
In theory, firing is simultaneous, so when both subs fire the defending sub’s torpedo is in the water before it is hit. This allows it to fire even if eliminated. However, in practice actual simultaneous action is not practical, so the attacker acts first, but the results are still simultaneously applied.
This principle also applies to submerging. Since fire is simultaneous, the decision to submerge instead of firing is also simultaneous. In your example, when the attacking sub fires, the defending sub is already submerging, so it can’t be hit.
Krieghund, I’m having trouble with this one. I was poring over the rulebook on subs and combat this weekend to answer this very question. I attacked a sub with a sub.
I don’t have the rulebook with me right now, but I remember it said (under submarines) that attacking subs roll first, and casualties are chosen. Then defending submarines roll and casualties are chosen. (Then “normal” units roll) It also says that anytime a sub can roll, it can submerge instead. I only see one way of interpreting these rules, and that is that an attacking sub would roll, and if it hit (yes, mine did) then the defending sub would be chosen as a casualty. Then it would be the defenders turn to roll, and since his sub was hit, of course he would roll.
This is a significant rule interpretation, because if subs can’t hit a sub-only seazone (because they will usually submerge immediately), then a destroyer is the only unit that can possibly attack a sea zone with sub(s).
According to your answer then, a sub doesn’t really have a surprise strike capability against enemy destroyers OR sub only sea-zones.
Do you still stand by your original answer?
Thanks. I really appreciate all the clarifications you’ve given us in the past. It’s unfortunate that so many clarifications are necessary, but it’s amazing how many different situations arise in this game.
gamer,
For AA 50:
"Page 30 of the rulebook,
Submersible: Anytime a submarine would otherwise roll the die to attack or defend, it can submerge instead. This
removes it from the combat—it can no longer attack or take hits in that combat. Whenever a round of combat starts and a submarine is in combat with only aircraft, it can submerge (before aircraft fire)."
"Page 18,
Step 2. Attacking Units Fire
Submarines have the Surprise Strike ability. Both attacking and defending submarines fire before other combat units during a sea battle. (See “Surprise Strike” in Unit Profi les: Submarines, pg. 30.)"
If you link the two rules, the sub vs. sub battle would look like this.
Attacker chooses to attack a sz with a sub with a sub.
Attacking units fire but since both attacking and defending subs fire before other units do (or at same time in theory). The subs can decide to attack/defend or submerge.
Resolve either attack/defend or submerge.
If subs submerge, than the submersible ability takes effect “which removes it from combat - it can no longer attack or take hits in that combat.”
Result:
Attacking sub attacks and the defending sub sumberges, even if the attacker hits, the submersible ability allows it to survive.
For AA 1942 based on AA 50 rules but clarified.
Attacking sub decides to attack or submerge first
Defending sub decides to attack or submerge next.
But this also needs to be tied in with the submersible ability.
The reason why I asked the question originally was that for Revised, one of the attacks UK does on UK1 is to attack the Japanese sub with a UK sub.
With the AA50/AA 1942 rules, this is not possible as the Japanese sub will submerge immediately.
That’s my interpretation but I wanted to confirm with Krieghund to avoid any issues as our group was having a FTF AA 1942 game.
gamerman01,
http://harrisgamedesign.com/pdf/A&A_Anniversary_FAQ.pdf
I think I can answer that. This is the revised FAQ.
Germany can use any ftr in Ger to intercept every time it’s SBR’ed. It doesn’t only cover German ftrs but any ftrs based in the territory being SBR’ed so it can be Italian or even Japanese ftr.
Krieghund covered this in another thread. I’ll look for it and revise this response.
This response is for AAE but should also apply,
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=15396.msg495075#msg495075
Welcome to the board,
+1 karma to start you off!
Here’s the thread discussing about adding China and Italy dice.
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=12875.0
Here’s the thread about FMG pieces to be used for AA.
Keep up the great work everyone.
Is there a way to make AA battlemap display what the pieces are when you move your cursor over it?
I made a mistake in thinking that the starting navy for Germany in Sz 5 was 2 subs, 1 cr, 1 trn.
No cr only dd!!! :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
I hope I’m not the only one having this problem!
iker300,
Welcome to the forum!
+1 karma to you to start you off.
Not sure about the IC in WEu.
Welcome to the board, plumsmugler,
You can find some answers here:
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=11223.0
As for the toolbars disappearing, just delete the *.ini file, when you restart the program the toolbar will appear again.
+1 karma to you.
Welcome to the board Tragedy,
+1 karma to you!
$19.40 isn’t that bad, that’s Target price! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
@Brain:
are you kidding, i saw a $25 game of UNO there! For a game called ‘1’ that’s highway robbery!! :-D :wink:
What do you think the price of a game with the number 40 will be? :-D
oh no, it’s worse than that, it has 1940 on the actual box…