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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1942, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 6 Research Technology - Japanese Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 7 armour, 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug Japanese take Evenki National Okrug from Russians 1 armour moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Urals Japanese take Urals from Russians 2 armour moved from Ningxia to Chinghai 2 armour moved from Suiyuan to Chinghai 1 bomber moved from Buryatia S.S.R. to Russia 1 infantry moved from Persia to Kazakh S.S.R. Japanese take Kazakh S.S.R. from Russians 4 infantry moved from Persia to Caucasus Japanese take Caucasus from Russians 1 armour moved from Ningxia to Chinghai 4 infantry moved from Philippine Islands to 50 Sea Zone 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 50 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to Australia 1 cruiser moved from 50 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 50 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 50 Sea Zone to Australia Combat - Japanese Strategic bombing raid in Russia AA fire in Russia : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 2 and causes: 2 damage to unit: factory Bombing raid in Russia causes 2 damage total. Battle in Chinghai Japanese attack with 5 armour Chinese defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 5 armour in Chinghai, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Chinghai, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 armour owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chinghai Japanese roll dice for 3 armour in Chinghai, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Chinghai, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Chinghai Japanese roll dice for 2 armour in Chinghai, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Chinghai, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chinghai Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Chinghai, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter in Chinghai, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Chinghai Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -19 Casualties for Japanese: 5 armour Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Australia Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 4 infantry British defend with 1 aaGun and 3 infantry AA fire in Australia : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Australia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 4 infantry in Australia, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 3 infantry in Australia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Australia Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Australia, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Australia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Australia Japanese win, taking Australia from British with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 bomber moved from Russia to Belorussia 3 armour moved from India to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from India to Persia 1 aaGun moved from Burma to India 1 infantry moved from Burma to India 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Sikang 1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Sikang 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Suiyuan 2 armour moved from Manchuria to Stanovoj Chrebet 2 artilleries moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug 3 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug 1 infantry moved from Stanovoj Chrebet to Yakut S.S.R. 2 armour moved from Manchuria to Ningxia 2 fighters moved from Australia to 39 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 50 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo-China Thailand 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo-China Thailand 1 battleship moved from 59 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 2 armour and 1 bomber placed in Manchuria 3 armour placed in India 2 armour and 2 infantry placed in East Indies 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective 2: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective 3: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective 1: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

AA fire in Russia : : -0.17 British : 0.67 AA fire in Australia : : -0.33 Chinese : 1.00 Japanese : -4.67

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1942, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Japanese 1 cruiser moved from 50 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Buryatia S.S.R. 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to Buryatia S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Japan to Buryatia S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Fukien 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Fukien 1 fighter moved from Manchuria to Fukien 1 fighter moved from Formosa to Yunnan 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from French Indo-China Thailand to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 38 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 46 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 51 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Japan to 53 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Fukien Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Fukien, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Fukien, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Fukien Japanese win, taking Fukien from Chinese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Buryatia S.S.R. Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry Russians defend with 3 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Buryatia S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Buryatia S.S.R., round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Buryatia S.S.R., round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Buryatia S.S.R. Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Buryatia S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Buryatia S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Buryatia S.S.R. 1 fighter owned by the Japanese retreated Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Buryatia S.S.R., round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Buryatia S.S.R., round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Buryatia S.S.R. Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in 35 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 fighters British defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 fighters in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese 2 fighters owned by the Japanese lost in 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese retreated to 38 Sea Zone British win with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -20 Casualties for Japanese: 2 fighters Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 3 infantry Chinese defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 6 : 3/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter in Yunnan, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 2 infantry Battle in 53 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine Americans defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 53 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 53 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 53 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans, 1 carrier owned by the Americans, 1 submarine owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 53 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter moved from 53 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 51 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 53 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 2 fighters moved from Yunnan to French Indo-China Thailand 1 fighter moved from Fukien to Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Buryatia S.S.R. to Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Manchuria Place Units - Japanese 3 transports placed in 62 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Objective 2: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs Objective 1: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs 1 unit repaired.

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

British : 1.67 Americans : -0.33 Chinese : -2.67 Russians : 1.33 Japanese : -4.00

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Correction: we have 2 tables already! Who will fill the 3rd table?

Hi everybody!
Again we will have a 1940 global game coming up!
Location: Lelystad the Netherlands!
Time: 10am February 3rd
Everybody that can make it is welcome!
For more info, message me!
TripleA Xray

Ik zou me graag bij jullie aansluiten!

Ben geen ervaren speler maar wel bekend met de basis regels. Zou graag een keer meedoen/meekijken…

Groeten!

@ponef In regards to what? This thread kind of wound up diverting itself in like 3 different directions:

Whether UK should retake Egypt B1 Vs. send the FTR from the India Carrier over to the US Pearl Harbor Fleet. Whether Japan should attack the Pearl Harbor Fleet, the UK India Fleet, or both on J1. Whether UK should attack Borneo B1 or not.

The answer to basically all of these boiled down to some combination of “it depends on how the dice went G1” and “are you playing under WBC Rules or not”. Seeing as WBC no longer runs tournaments for Revised (or any A&A, for that matter), we’re left to assume all games being played will be OOB rules (or at least LHTR), in which case Egypt suddenly becomes much less of a priority in the grand scheme of things.

Personally, I got to try the strategy out at the 2018 WBC in one of my games. It worked well for me, as Japan was routinely baited into attacking the USN, losing the TT and the DD in the process. This allowed me to wipe out the remaining IJN Fleet A1 (Bomber from East USA + FTR from West USA + Navy from US West Coast + FTR from Hawaii). This crippled the IJN and let me rapidly come to dominate the Pacific.

Ik ben misschien wat laat, maar heb er ook wel zin in. Is er nog plaats?

@Slip:

WBC Rules

These are the rules my group plays with too.  It gives a much better playing experience than playing normally IMO.

It prevents the typical “stack heavy” style that dominates OOB Revised at the highest levels, although obviously you still need to stack heavily to win.

Funny thing is that this event seems to have networked three different groups of players through individuals attending TripleA Xrays event. I’m confident this will result in more games with a broader group of players.

For me definitely an eye opener that there are more die hard AA fans closes then I expected  :-D

Nice work - Dare I ask how many hours you put into it? For interest’s sake.

@GiddyXray:

I’m not so familiar with calculations, but i did some simulation for this case. I found that on average the damage is about equal to the cost. That means that it is not a very strong strategy. You do need some luck for it to be effective. However, if you have average luck, you’ll be cutting germany’s income quite a bit. If at the same time you are able to kick him out of africa, you will give Rusia a much easier time to hold off Germany, until you are able to start a second front in Europe.

You are helping me thinking deeper on that issue.
This question rise in my mind:
what is the average TUV change in a fruitful combat with a combined attacking forces with ground and air units?

It is easier to calculate what is the average TUV (Total Unit Value) change per SBR with 1 Strategic Bomber without any interception.

1 Strategic Bomber doing SBR against no interceptor / with special HR bonus damage (+1 /+2/+3) to IC when STB is killed by IC’s AAA
1D6 (avg 3.5 IPCs): +2.917 - 2 = +0.917 IPCs damage/SBR  / (1 damage pt if StB is killed) +1.084 IPCs damage/SBR
1D6+1 (avg 4.5 IPCs): +3.750 - 2 = +1.750 IPCs damage/SBR / (1 damage pt… ) +1.917 IPCs damage/SBR
1D6+2 (avg 5.5 IPCs): +4.583 - 2 = +2.583 IPCs damage/SBR / (2 damage pt…) +2.916 IPCs damage/SBR
1D6+3 (avg 6.5 IPCs): +5.417 - 2 = +3.417 IPCs damage/SBR / (3 damage pt… ) +3.917 IPCs damage/SBR
2D6 (avg 7 IPCs): +5.833 - 2 = +3.833 IPCs damage/SBR  / (3 damage pt… ) +4.333 IPCs damage/SBR

G40 OOB D6+2: +4.583 - 2 = +2.583 IPCs damage/SBR
Triple A 1942.2 D6: +2.917 - 2 = +0.917 IPC damage/SBR
OOB 1942.2 D6: +2.917 - 2 = +0.917 IPC damage/SBR

But what is the usual TUV change an attacker can hope for in a not so risky battle, on average?
Is it far better or not than +2.583?