Posts made by gamerman01

@rockrobinoff:

@johnmk:

If the rule is set up as suggested in the first post, then I think I’d hesitate to buy tech. I’ll wait for somebody else to make all the sacrifice.

There is the advantage in getting to use it straight away. Also, some techs are more useful to some powers.

I agree with Johnmk.  Why don’t you just put different price tags on each tech and any country can buy them at any time?
I also think Lozmoid has a good idea with his historically accurate tech.  I’ve thought about this before, as well.  I think it would be a good idea if the price of each tech depended on which country you have.  Example: Radar costs 5 for UK, but 25 for Germany.  Heavy bombers cost 25 for USA, but 40 for Italy (normally precluding Italy from ever getting them)  To me, this makes more sense than any power being able to copy tech for the same price (original power had to take the chance, wait the time, sink the money in…)

:lol:
That’s awesome, thanks for sharing!
Get to 'em young, that’s what I say!
And you tell her she doesn’t have to attack Egypt G1 :D :D :D

Right on….
And the Axis are rolling…  :-)

OK, maybe this will explain my position.
I play #1 for fun, #2 to win.  Getting tech is fun.  2 infantry and 1 art in Poland is not.
Also, I don’t always try to pressure Russia as much as possible.
Finally, a big part of my strategy is to be unpredictable.  My opponent knows exactly what I can do with ground units that can only move one territory at a time.  But if I have tech tokens in, he has to worry about all the things I might get.  And when I do get the tech, my attack becomes more unpredictable.
We just have two different styles of play, that’s all.  Wanna game?

Whup - you are sooooo right.
:oops:
Overlooked the lil Rd6 part.  (Goes back and makes several edits)
OK, you got credibility back.  Peace.
I agree, was nice to choose your tech, but I don’t miss it, myself.

What’s ironic is I got onto this thread by sticking up for your ideas.

I’ll take heavy bombers.

@rockrobinoff:

for the record, i am all for tech. i just think 10 IPCs on G1 an extravagance almost certainly sub optimal.

Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion.
My opinion is 10 IPC’s is a modest investment that has a good chance of bearing tremendous benefits.
Also, now that we’re back to the Classic method where you can’t pick your tech, getting tech you don’t really want is good, too.  Obviously, it increases your odds of getting the ones you do want in future turns.

@rockrobinoff:

@gamerman01:

Yes, I’m a tech fiend.  Now that it’s not near the gamble it used to be (get to re-roll every turn)

In my opinion, it is more of a gamble than when compared to revised. You can get techs you dont want, unlike in revised where you roll for specific techs. Nothing like spending 40 bucks on Rd 6 with America to get Heavy Bombers to wipe out Germany.

I like the excitement of not knowing what you’ll get.  It’s like the grab-bag.

@Funcioneta:

As he said, he spent a total of 35 IPCs of tech, so a result of 2 techs is still in the average. I spent 5 and got none, I don’t see any wrong with tech: I’ll have more units and he will have better units, as should  :wink:

:-D Correction - I will have better units, and you will BUILD more units, not HAVE more units  :evil:  :wink:
Yes, I’m a tech fiend.  Now that it’s not near the gamble it used to be (get to re-roll every turn) and everyone has more money than previous games (NO’s, more territory), AA50 is the best A&A game so far, partly because it has tons of tech on both sides!  But you can’t get it if you don’t buy researchers.  I almost always have at least 1 going for nearly every country.  You have to give yourself a chance.

@Funcioneta:

And yes, he got HBs and IS, but I could get Paratroopers next round with UK, war bounds with USSR or LRA with USA so what? As he said, he spent a total of 35 IPCs of tech, so a result of 2 techs is still in the average. I spent 5 and got none, I don’t see any wrong with tech: I’ll have more units and he will have better units, as should  :wink: Not that I’m going to cry for HBs round1: I’ll search the way of countering this

Heeeey….  Gracias, amigo!!  You got my back, how about that?  Long live tech!
I really appreciate your attitude.  So he got heavy bombers, there are ways to deal with that.  I’m gonna thoroughly enjoy playing Axis and Allies with you - I hope we can play games sometime beyond this first one.

Oh, and by the way, you’re up!  Good luck!!!
Agree - no shame in losing with Allies in '41 - jeez, the setup borders on ridiculous (see Japan).

@Funcioneta:

@axis_roll:

You should be playing without tech to limit the variables (IMHO)

And we could play also LL to kill all the fun  :-P

Haha - Funcioneta, the irony is we strongly agree about some things.  I love tech, and agree LL would really kill the fun ;)

@rockrobinoff:

if you spent 10 bucks on tech and got a the right tech, you have to attack egypt. i think spending 10 bucks on tech on G1 an outrageous move by the way - considerably more suspect than Egypt G1

You’re making me want to challenge you, too!  :lol:
I’ll show you the power of tech!

@axis_roll:

You should be playing without tech to limit the variables (IMHO)

Axis, I understand what you’re saying.  This is EXACTLY why I still didn’t attack Egypt G1 even though it was suddenly a much better move.
I deliberately left the flying tigers alone, too.  It was kind of the point of the game we’re playing.  I challenged Funcioneta because he said not attacking Egypt G1 and Yunnan J1 was a “double failure”.
We both wanted to play tech.  Funcioneta suggested it first.  You know, a lot of people like us don’t really care to play Axis and Allies without it.  I think it’s lame, for example, to know for sure that the enemy’s planes can’t exceed a 4 or 6 move range.  In this game, I had to leave units in Germany and Italy that I normally would have moved out toward the front lines, except I had to guard against the possibility of paratroopers.
Tech is not going to ruin the purpose of this game, which was whether it’s a really bad idea to skip Egypt G1 or Yunnan J1.

@rockrobinoff:

if you spent 10 bucks on tech and got a the right tech, you have to attack egypt. i think spending 10 bucks on tech on G1 an outrageous move by the way - considerably more suspect than Egypt G1

Nonsense.  Even Funcioneta acknowledged that with a naval build, using the heavy bomber on SZ2 was a good move.
10 bucks is far from an outrageous move.  This is AA50, where you don’t throw away the money, remember?  If I didn’t roll a 6, I’d get a chance the next turn and the next turn until I did. 
10 bucks gives you 30.5% chance of a breakthrough.
I play this game for fun, not like some cold, calculating killer who must always make the optimal strategic move.  Getting tech is fun.  Not to mention the fact that having heavy bombers helps my chances of winning big time.
I don’t understand why people act like tech is such a big gamble or waste of money or whatever.  Jeez, it’s not Axis and Allies without tech.
To each his own.  I don’t care what you think about spending 10 on tech.  I spent 15 with Japan and got improved shipyards, and then I spent 10 with Italy and got nothing.  What do you think about that?  I think I’m going to win.

Heh heh, I’m sure we’ll have a great game.
Just so everyone knows, I got heavy bombers in G1 with 10 IPC’s, so the joke’s on me.  I really want to attack Egypt now, but not going to, since that’s kind of the point of this game  :lol:

It’s on  :wink:
I have a lot of games going now too, so no pressure on you to move timely.
I’m just posting here in case someone following the discussion wants to view the game, I wanted to confirm that there will be a game.
I guess I will forgo the Egypt attack so you can show me the dire consequences of this failure.  I might have been thinking of 1942 more with the whole leave the flying tigers alone thing, so not sure if I will be attacking them or not in 1941.  I’ll see if I can let them go so I can commit the “double failure”  :wink:
I usually play with Dard closed and no new Island complexes, but welcome a chance to play Axis without these “handicaps”.  I’ll go set up G1.

@Funcioneta:

So you can’t choose the time to attack with germans if you fail doing so G1 because UK will retreat their units until the best moment to counter since Germany left the initiative in Africa/Middle East theater. They could even retreat to Caucasus if really needed, and Desert Rats are 5 units

Nope, must of my opponents leave it there in Egypt, reinforcing with TrJ (giving that to the Italians along with NO), because it goes toward UK and Italy NO’s, I suppose.  Maybe you are superior to my average opponents, I don’t know.

You seem think Desert Rats are a minor nuisance

Nope - just don’t always want to make a risky attack and commit the German Bomber down there.

What do you skip attacking 4 chinese territories? USA’s BB? That can be replaced and is a riskier attack than chinese ones.

However, this debate is interesting anyway

What is with this idea of whether something can be replaced or not?  Sure, it can be replaced, for 20 big ones!  I’m looking at threat levels.  Letting one or two Chinese infantry live does not pose much of a threat in future turns.
As far as your, um, interesting idea about taking all the mideast forces up to Chi, you’re abandoning the mideast, giving away Italian NO’s without a fight, it takes several turns to get up there, losing Russian NO’s on the way…  I must say, that’s unconventional wisdom, at best.
I’m getting tired of discussing the what if’s.  Sounds like you’d be a good opponent.  I challenge you to a game.

Well, I respectfully disagree.
I know your points are popular and are conventional wisdom, but I’ve begun to question this conventional wisdom.  A couple of Chinese infantry don’t scare me.  They don’t all need to be killed in round one.  They are DEFINITELY not going anwhere.
I’m well aware there are options for the UK forces in Egypt to run around.  However, in '41 there aren’t fighters starting in India and Australia, so again, I disagree that they are a priority G1.
You know, I was thinking about the '42 scenario as far as other things the Jap fighterrs need to do.  In '41 the Japanese scenario is an absolute joke.  They can do whatever they want.  No fighter in Australia, no carrier and fighter by India - just a BB at Pearl.  Japan can do whatever they dang well please in '41.  With 9 fighters to start and major bombardment capabilities, China is just a whipping boy that can be hammered at any time - round 1, round 2, whatever.
Wanna game, Funcioneta?  It’s very difficult to describe the merits of a strategy when there are a lot of other things going on.  Sure, it sounds like a great idea to hammer China and Egypt, and ignoring both is what you call a “double failure”  :lol:
But these actions do have opportunity costs.
I just started a 1941 game as Axis, and I decided to attack Egypt G1.  I got lucky, and won it with 2 armor and the bomber.  Sure, it’s sweet when it works.  But it depends on my mood what I want to do G1 1941.