Posts made by FW190F

Voted for Japan for similar reasons.

for 18 IPC you can have 3 powerfull defending unit to protect your fleet (using already existing fighter). The Battleship can absorb one hit but only return fire once. An AC with 3 figther will defend at 3, 4,4 try to beat that.

If you want to control the atlantic go with AC. The other good thing is that it allow your fighter to help in amphibious assault far from territory you already control. The figther can land on them after the attack. I very rarely buy Battleship but very often AC.

I agree that Australia is a good choice for a KJF strategy. UK does’t have to pay for it so they can concentrate on slowing down the German initialy and when possible increase their contribution to the US fleet in the pacific.

If they manage to keep their Ocean Indian fleet by joining with the Australian fleet then even better. With little investement they can become the little trouble maker while the US contain the Japanese fleet.

I know most people probably find it stupid, because that’s how it looks if you think about it quickly but if you carefully sits and think about it, I still beleive that a collonial Garrison in Egypt might be the optimal choice in a KGF strategy.

First the IC is free, so it doesn’t really matter if you lose it and unless the German go with a strong African bid he won’t be able to do anything with it.

You lose it G1 round.

With a small african German bid you should be able to get it back next round. You will then exchange it a round or two and by third round it’s all yours and that’s when you need it anyway. You can then pump armor to reinforce the Russian, or harrass the Japanese. Later in the game Once the German fleet is sunk you don’t have to worry about japanese tank running wild in africa (these 11IPC are a major blow to UK and usually a pain to defend when they focus 100% on killing germany).

Maybe there is something I didn’t see. I would like to see if someone tried it. And please before you comment on the strategy try to think a bit out of the box and not just say the German will take it first round (I already know that, Sorry Mr.G)

I just checked my game and I actually won it.

I went with a KGF strategy bought 1 ftr first round. My opponent probably thinking it was a bad move decided to build an AC in the baltic for Germany. That’s probably why I bought a second one. I already had played a game against him as the Allied and knew he was playing a game of exchanging Inf.

Russia 4 my opponent surrendered.

I don’t think Germany should buy an AC for the baltic but that’s an entire different story.

@Mr.:

Egypt will be taken first turn by Germany, so that’s obviously a bad choice….

Seriously I would never had the guts to do it, but I wonder how many IPC you can trick the German player to pump there to defend it, IPC spent in Africa are not used to used to gain high income territory in Russia. Plus once the allied get it back the UK can now invade europe from all side and help in the defense of Caucasus.

Don’t know I might give it a try one day. Obviously you would have to go with a KGF strategy and be willing to loose India very quickly, which also have some downside.

Should be? Really? Why don’t you go to FoE and check some of my games…I’o? ve yet to lose a game of Revised…Do you play with a group of friends at home? Where do you get this infGermany has a much greater ability to trade than Russia does(5-6 fighters+bomber)…why would you waste money on a fighter when to “out-trade” Germany you will need about 4 more fighters? This game isn’t all about trading…If you trade 3 countries a turn as Russia, that means ~6 infantry per turn is wasted on trades…Germany out produces Russia by a lot, and when Russia wastes it’s time trading every country it can…Germany will grow stronger, especially when Russia wastes it’s money on a fighter…that only adds to the problem…

Possibly, did you ever had to deal with it or you just assume. I see some good in it in a KGF strategy against a German player building tons of infantry and expecting you to play that game (That’s when I used the strategy)

I like to try different things. In my mind the best bid for Germany is in Africa but it quickly gets boring.

I looked at your previous game this morning (after playing my Germany move :( ) and notice that you seems to be using that opening most of the time. I am expecting a Kill Germany first now (again looking at your other game.)

I am going for a all or nothing strategy now, I never tried it, we will see what it gives.

But I don’t give up until the end. I am currently giving Balailaka a hard time with a bid of 1 trn in the baltic. (this was the worst bid I ever done) Especially that I didn’t follow up with an AC after.

And I like to play this game, you might defeat me, but in the end I will be the real winner since I will be the one learning the most out of this game. :)

Well I already bought 1 ftr on Russia’s first two rounds and almost won. I lost because of extreme bad luck in one key battle.

How come nobody mention Egypt :wink:

NUB exactly my point, sometimes I wonder if the whole D-Day operation was more political than strategic.

The only difference it would really makes is that the people who died on those beaches, did it to defeat the Communist instead of the Fashist not big of a difference at that time if you ask me.

I think the question should be more like what if all beaches had been fortified like the one the american landed on. Like Rommel advised. Most probably D-Day would have failed even with all the air and naval support.

Now the other question is:was D-Day necessary? Other then making sure the Russian wouldn’t control all Continental Europe. In June 44 was Germany in any kind of position where they could hold the Russian and Italian offensive much longuer. Would funnelling all these troops via the med and attack Germany by the south while slower leaded to less casualty on the allied side.

@Mercader:

you could also look at how fast germany collapsed in the east after d-day,because it was way out of proportion to the retreats they had made pre-d-day. They collapsed in the east after d-day.

either way i think that if the russians had attacked germany first, and tried to invade as the above poster said they would, they would have been smashed.

they wouldnt have the russian winter, which realy has saved them in countless wars, and they would be crushed.

we know this, napoleonic wars, every battle outside russia pre 1812 they lost to france, in the russian campaign 1812-1813 they lost until the winter.

russia realy has a terrible military history, they have been saved countless times by their enemies under-estimating the winter.

this also happened with germany, they failed to take moscow because of the winter freeze.

Then why did Paton was called back after the fall of Berlin? Why did the allied decided to make a temporary peace with the russian that could only lead to the cold war, if they were so easy to defeat outside russia.

Russia was completly disorganised but their number was incredible. Even after 20 millions had been killed they were still a threat to the west.

This is my first post on this board. Reading the thread another question came to my mind. But first my answer on the topic at hand.

IMO it’s clear that without Germany having to bother about Russia, England would have been gone rather quickly. There was about 600 planes in England at the begining of the battle of Britain and a similar pathetic number of land troops. The battle of Britain had to be cancelled because too many ressources (especially plane had to be sent to fight Russia). Radar or not once the German would have landed on the Island the poor british would have surrender in a few weeks if not less.

I doubt the American would have fought Germany at that point, not having a foothold in the old continent.

Concentrating their effort on the Pacific the US would probably have won there.

But like other said Hitler was obsesed with Russia and saving europe from communism, because he knew that Stalin was preparing an offensive on europe. Now my question is: without the german army slaugthering the russian army like pigs, would England, France, an unprepared Germany and US have been able to stop the Russian army from making europe a communist collony and becoming the sole world power. Do european owe in some way their freedom and the US their economical power to germany?