Posts made by Funcioneta

He, he, Jen has right, both Mc Cain and Rodman says the same. Seems both USA partys are almost equal.  :-D

As Kodos sais: “Vote the party you want… anyway you are dooooooomed…”  :lol:

Then, maybe GW Bush is a commie?  :lol: Of course, you may want one even more conservative than Bush but still he is very conservative.

You have a point. But adding Italy only for balance could even damage Germany, having to divide IPCs for Barbarossa or African campaign. Maybe add Greece as territory, at 1 IPCs so Italy have at least the income to buy trannies  :| Think that, as now, “Italy” and Germant attack as one, an so they can attack USSR best than if they get separate turns. Of course, they could act at the same turn as in Pacific USA/China or India/Australia.

OK if Italy is added only for the sake of balance, but must get serious work or we could back to bids of 16-20 as in Classic (and I don’t want see 2 subs bids for z8, 2 trannies for Sea Lion or another crazy combos  :-P )

And China, even if finally not manages playing power status, must be redone. More territories is needed even if China is still USA dependant. Maybe an IC or built-in NA “chinese divisions”

@Pervavita:

China was a 3rd rate at best power, Italy although porrly lead was a 2nd rate power on par with Japan and Russia in industrialisation and millitary might. they just made bad strategic moves. that is no reason to say they don’t rate but a nation that got lucky dose rate to have a team. China had such a weak economy that they could not generate Armor to any real degree or generate air power. how fun would it realy be to play as a secound Russia but not even start with air power or Armor and also never be able to afford them to gain flex in combat? Italy atleast had all this and more and had the economy to stand on it’s own.

Maybe China would not fun. Maybe yes. But think in Italy. What can do anyway? Send a couple of inf to Africa? Try a lesser aid against USSR? Italy would had a difficult time building anything greater than an armor, at least with the map we have now (6 ipcs from Seu, 1 ipc from Lybia = 7 ipcs). Of course, China is even worse (4 ipcs), but I said a cuople of posts ago China needs more territories.

China a lesser USSR? No. USSR should be meant for fighting the Germans, not for being crushed between them and Japan. As now, USSR do the most of the job stopping the Japs in Asia in most of games, when it should be China (independent or USA dependent) who should stop the japaneses. Italy would easily be as a 2nd Germany if included…

My thought is both Italy and China at best, and if I must choose, China alone

And no, Italy, even well managed, couldn’t match the power of USSR or even Japan. And China had aircraft (very crappy, of course, but they had). Don’t forget lend-lease also went to Nationalist China

If China shouln’t be, then Italy don’t deserves being a playing power. At least China annoyed Japaneses, managed a draw,preventing that forces going for India or Australia. What did the Italians? Lost lots of battles for nothing. They lost in Lybia against UK and lost in Greece… against the very Greeks  :-D If germans wouldn’t go in their aid, Italy would even lose Albania to the Greeks. I think a power that can manage a draw, even in middle of a civil war, deserves more being a playing power than a power than only could lose battles.

And for the dds costing 8 ipcs… then it would be the end of subs, because subs cannot hit aircraft. Unless, of course you need a dd to hit a sub with aircraft as in Europe/Pacific AND add convoy zones  :|

China can work, but need more territories. Anyway, Italy is going to be a mayor power and Italy has the same chance of doing something than China.

Someone said China should be as in Pacific, integrated in USA’s turn. Maybe, but let them buy more than inf. And if China is in USA’s turn, maybe Italy can play in Germany’s turn

And I like the idea of different pieces for Italy and China. They could even make markers for minors, only for flavour (example, Australian IC built forces having an Australian marker, Canadian armor have his marker, etc.) Minor markers could even mix with some minor power NAs or such.

Just a couple of ideas  :-)

Is good add Italy on axis side, but I would like they add also allied China as a true playing power, with more territories in that zone. I think China deserves being playable more than Italy. China would add more fighting in the Pacific area. Sending USSR forces to reinforce Sinkiang is viable, and you can call them “Maoist forces”, but still have a ugly visual effect.

@Imperious:

Yes and then yet another Castro will be in charge. Eventually one who is even more stupid than the people and will be liquidated by them.

Maybe this could sound offensive for cubans… if you have a dictator, you are not a stupid, simply you have a dictator and sometimes you have no chance for change it even if you want…

I still don’t understand why are you talking about bids. OOb rules have no bids. And if you want mod the oob to let bids, I would not be surprised of seeing 0 bids or even 3 bid for allies (inf at England) to counter Sea Lion without landing the USSR figther.

Oh, something to add. If using OOb + NA’s, radar is a very good choice for UK to prevent Sea Lion  :-D

OOB don’t use bids. If you use bids, is not OOB, is a mod  :-D

So no sense on playing about bids with G1 Sea Lion.

I agree with you Jen at the most. Three things to add:

1. If germans attack with z8 sub to z1 tra and win, UK cannot retake England, only USA (if sub to z9, UK can counter with bbs and free the path for USA). So it’s a bit riskiers for allies than you say

2. However, still have a chance to fail. And, as you say, the price is big. Even in the slim case Germany consolidates her position, it’s a boring game winnied by pure dice at Ger1. The player who make and success Sea Lion too much surely would have a difficult time to find opponents.

3. I played 2 years with OOB rules, all knowing the Sea Lion stuff and no one tired ever one time. Zero times in two years. Sometimes, germans rolled and managed long range, but only with a couple of dices and for long term use, no for Sea Lion

My question is:

• Techs are not a very good purchase usually
• Sea Lion G1 rarely happens … too rarely …
• Why delay and make the techs even worse only because a slim chance of germans even trying Sea Lion and even then maybe not winning?

@Cmdr:

I call it the Donkey in Elephant Pants and Mask mold.

The Donkeys are the Republicans and the Elephants are the Democrats? Or viceversa?

Boy, sure USA politics are tricky … there are more guys and factions than in Silmarillion…

@mojo:

is the new capitol limited to it’s ipc value ?   so if UK has australia as it’s new capitol,  he can only build 2 units ?  just wondering i’m not sure how down with this rule i am,  but i’m thinking about it.  and where did this rule come from ?  where is this LHTR 2.0 ?  it’s not the rule book in revised ?

The exiled capitol ruled was invented for me, used first for FFA 2 (not need yet but maybe soon). If Australia is the new capitol… yes… UK still can build only 2 units there (but the free ones from exiled troops don’t mind for this limit)… and if UK has another IC at, say, South Africa, that IC can still be used, of course.

"Capitol at the exile:

When a capital is captured, follow the normal rules and the conqueror can steal the money, but the power who’s capitol was taken can reallocate the capital at one territory with an IC on it. If the power has more than 1 IC, put in the territory with most income (if two or more have same income, put the new capitol at your choice). The reallocation must be declared in Purchase units phase. You gain “Rally exiled troops” rule

If the power has no IC left, it can still collect income, but the income only can be invested in 1 IC that will be the new capitol and gain the “Rally exiled troops” rule. If no territories or troops are left … well, you are out of the game!

And, If you manage retake your original capital, you can choose keep at your actual capitol or come back to the original. This can be made on any Deploy units phase post retaking the original capitol.

Rally exiled troops: Remanents of your army joins at new capital for continuing the resistance! Put 1d3 inf for free at the new capitol when the new capitol is declared (or buyed).

Note that this is used for you can still play, even if you have not many chances of wining the game"

Note you put 1d3 inf, not 3 inf as someone said.
I created this rule to prevent someone who’s capital has fallen and still has units must post moves without chance of doing nothing, thus maybe resigning from the game and letting the other 4 stopped. FFA 1 had a clear case of this, with Japan backstabbed, with lots of units but no trannie and Tokyo fallen. Another easy case would be UK falling (not so difficult doing Sea Lion in FFA) or even sneaky german/UK trannies taking Whashington when USA is distracted in Pacific (difficult but can happen, at least in a game I managed take L.A. because the guy was distracted)

The free inf are for prevent the new capitol could be taken so quickly.

@Pervavita:

yes some things in the millitary cansol out laws that are established. such as trial by jury or even double jeperdy (you can be tried by civilian court and then tried by the UCMJ or even in reverse and be convicted in both casses for the exact same crime).
this dose not mean that murder is ignored at all. the UCMJ holds millitary personel to a higher standard not a lower standard.
the problem as i see it is not that murder or unlawfull actions take place over seas. my problem is that the governement and media is going to far and convicting these troops before they are tried.
this is not a war like WWII in that it’s enamy solders in uniform, we are instead facing people who will strap a bomb on there own son and send them forward to detinate when the US forces (or even there allies) do what we have been raised to do, be kind to children.
if you saw your friend get blown up this way, would you wait for the next kid to walk up to you? some would, but not all and you can’t convict some one of murder if they truelly beleve there is a risk to them self. we are convicting our service men for doing there job, when they do it and it is found out that it was a cavilian i can understand the desire to make them look like a combatant. why? if you got reports that other guys are serving prison terms for doing exactly what you did, wouldn’t you want to save your skin? or would it be better to just let every one of the people walk up to you and your squad and just hope they don’t detinate? there is a fine line hear and the government has crossed over to convict those who they should be protecting and helping.

So the soldiers should can kill innocent unarmed people without punishement? Only because they are too frightened? What if a guy kills another only because he hates the muslims? If is a soldier, he can go free?

Some of you are saying your military laws cancel your constitution?  :-o Or I am missing something?

A person cannot kill intentionally a unarmed innocent person without punishment. It don’t mind if the murdered is a soldier, it must be punished. Justice is one of the basics of democracy.

Maybe England also needs free infs…

An army that can kill undefended civilians without punishment cannot be effective. My constitution says all citizens are equal against the law (art. 14), I think American constitution also says so. I agree with U-505

The guy killed a undefended man without provocation. The army punished the guy. I think it’s OK. It should work so.

If a soldier could “accidentally” kill a civilian and the army would cover him or her, next civilian killed could be you. Or your family.

About Americans and such… well UK soldiers also got punished for something similar a time ago. And if some Spanish soldier would make something similar, I’d also glad if the justice punish him/her (and would be very frightened if they don’t punish it, I don’t want come back to the dictatorship). Not an “all against America” issue, only a justice issue.

1st turn, you must kill Malta, then you could switch to west, but by when Italian fleet reach Atlantic, should be too much allied surface to Italians make some difference. And don’t forget the aircraft. Convoy hunt is for subs (they cannot be hit by aircraft if no dd is present.

Just buy a sub for Atlantic in round 0  :roll: