@Blitchga:

@deadbunny:

I second domicron. lets gets some games under the belt before calling in the red flag. generally peeps tend to call the red flag in support of their favorite side anyway. lets keep it neutral for once.

I am not sure that you have been reading the same thread. We are simply saying that credit is due for ALL Three Major Allied nations and I feel that credit is even required for the minor nations and some of the immense contributions they made considering their side.

As for the comments on Russian aid, that could not be more true. Yes the US and UK send a large amount of aid to Russia but ultimately it was Russia and the Five Year Plans and horrific timeline forced on the Russian people that allowed them to industrialize, it was not the US who industrialized Russia it was Russia herself. As was also pointed out already Russia became an enemy even before WWII was over!

The Canadian Navy was no where near the size of the US Destroyer fleet alone….

@Blitchga:

@dadler12:

Patriot much? I hate to burst your bubble but while the USA was immensely powerful they did not single handedly win the war. The US did not train the majority of your pilots (The British Commonwealth Air Training Plan or BCATP did),

Not true.

they could not effectively figure out how to move goods across the Atlantic

False

and had to rely on Canadian escort.

Only partially true, the US and IK decided to use canadian escorts to free up US and UK escort for other tasks.

Should I also mention that Canada had a bigger navy at the end of the war then the US?

THis statement is laughable. The US produced more ships during WWII than any other nation…by far. THe Canadian navy had a total of 400 hulls at war’s end, the US had more than that just counting DD’s…the US had over 145 Carriers alone (22 fleet carriers) at wars end.

The USA did take part in D-day but to a lesser extent than the British and Canadians,

“On D-Day, the Allies landed around 156,000 troops in Normandy. The American forces landed numbered 73,000: 23,250 on Utah Beach, 34,250 on Omaha Beach, and 15,500 airborne troops. In the British and Canadian sector, 83,115 troops were landed (61,715 of them British): 24,970 on Gold Beach, 21,400 on Juno Beach, 28,845 on Sword Beach, and 7900 airborne troops.”

the Russians contributed immensely in every way to the European war effort and made it to Berlin before the USA. The Russians produced more tanks than ALL Allied nations combined (Yes that means more than the USA AND ALL OTHER ALLIES combined, actually the Russians LOST almost as many tanks as the other allies produced).

This is not true either. The US and Britian combined produced more tanks than the Soviets. The US produced more trucks than the rest of the world combined that’s a fact.

I could go on but I think everyone is getting the idea.

The idea that you are virulently anti-American.

As for the game itself, I believe that the representation is just fine. The one problem if anything is that the USA should have a slightly bigger economy and NOT be able to reach the European or Pacific fronts in a single turn. It should take at least an extra turn to get into combat. I can assume that this was done for playability as apposed to historical accuracy.

As Gargantua and Calvin (I think it was the two of them) said the axis have to think ahead and prepare for plans to delay and push the US troops back if the US comes in without adequate protection on their landing forces.

There is so much incorrect information i