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      Study Finds Gay Unions Brief

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      You think it’s healthier for a child to have two dads rather than a dad and a mom?

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      Mob attacks researchers who found few want homes in Israel..

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      @Zero:

      10% want citizenship, 54% want land, that’s 64% total. That’s almost a super majority! Only 19% said that they would chose to leave. Please explain your position because I think the numbers say otherwise.

      Plus, I wish to point out as an aside that the OFFICIAL reason that Isreal drove these people from their land 50+years ago and refuses to let them return is that they are not Jewish, and therefore they would dilute Jewish political power in Isreal (a so called democracy). I find it upsetting that the US strongly backs a country that so openly defies the most basic principles of democracy, and that we act disgusted when the Palestinians call for the destruction of a state that denies them citizenship based soley on their religion.

      Israel did not drive these people out of their homes. I’m from Haifa, a city where the Jews and Arabs live in peace. The Arabs in Haifa are Arabs that havel ived there sicne before the war in 1948 and chose not to leave. They were immediately given full ctizienship and equal rights. You’re right though, Israel is a very discrimating country. I mean, how is it fair that the Israeli-Arabs do not have to attend the compulsory military service while every Jewish-Israeli does.

      It’s such a great crime against democracy not to give citizenship to people who mostly left willingly in 1948. A census in Beirut after the refugees had come there found that over 60% had left without even seeing an Israeli soldier. I think the Syrian prime minister, Khaled al-Azam, Syrian Prime Minister in 1949, put it rather well in his memoirs, “We brought destruction upon the [Palestinian] refugees, by calling on them to
      leave their homes.”

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      US Trade Deficit looks to be biggest ever…

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      Source :
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42201-2003Jul11.html

      As one obnoxious US Senator once so aptly put it…
      “There’s too much consumin’ goin’ on out theya!”

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      A&A Addict status…

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      CC Wrote:

      you see,
      this is why i feel uncomfortable when someone points to my (proliferic) post number. This is not an acheivement, so much as an anti-acheivement. The note that this is how much time i have spent NOT on a date, NOT studying, and NOT sleeping etc.
      it’s very sad.

      thought you’d like that. but just think how TG feels. :wink:

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      Europe grows hostage to its Muslims(sounds familiar.)

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      Hmm, not sure I remember posting that. Although it is quite possible given my memory. :wink:

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      Think the War on Terrorism will get worse before better?

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      I dare anyone to guess where the next “hit” is going to be. Mostly because if you turn out to be right, there will be several armor-clad people knocking down your door a few minutes later asking you (with the aid of a large rubber hose) how you knew where the attack would come. Call me crazy, but THAT would make me laugh.

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      Canadian Think tank says 10,000 terrorists in Canada

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      @haxorboy:

      And honestly really, the people up north have great beer so let’s not be so quick to jump on them okay?

      hackie__,
      I don’t think anyone’s jumping Canadians(except for a few stupid women I know who swoon at the Canadian accent.)

      I cannot think of another nation I’d rather have as a neighbour. Of course, they’ve had a couple hundred years to get used to the OCD nation south of the border.

      Maybe France. Then we’d have a neighbour we’d enjoy invading! :P :D

      PShackie__, I never met a transexual I didn’t like. :roll: :wink:

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      When did Diplomacy come out?

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      I believe the first printing of Diplomacy was in 1959.

      Great game. I run PBEM games using a free adjudicator called JDip. IMO it is a better game by email then live. In PBEM you not only don’t know what moves are coming you don’t even know who is making deals. Very fun.

      Look here for an example of the maps JDip kicks out.

      http://Thudwar.tripod.com

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      ONLY Axis BBs 2 hit @ start…

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      Well, I’m a porcelain throne field marshal.
      I outrank everyone…
      see Stratego rules if you have questions.

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      Read any great books lately??

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      Berard Cornwell-

      The man is a genius- Sharpe’s series, Starbuck, Archer’s tale etc.

      Jefe- if you are going to read AnnCoulter’s recent book then I
      Highly reccomend Sam Tannenhaus’ biography Whittaker Chambers.

      I read TR Frehenbach’s This Kind of War (it’s about the Korean War)
      every June for the last 4 years.

      I also reccomend, Stanley Karnow’s, Vietnam.

      Recently, I’m reading Ernest R. May’s, Strange Victory. It’s about how the French lost against The Germans in 1940.

      -Joseph Ellis’, Founding Brothers.

      -John Earl Haynes & Harvey Klehr’s Venona:
      Decoding Soviet Espionage in America.

      And Reading the Lord of the Rings Books with my oldest.

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      1963 Communist Goals…Many now accomplished!

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      Well, I cannot take allthe credit…er, blame. I found it on the net and couldn’t resist a little extremist conservative tweeking(spin)!

      Do you really like it? :)

      I figure a little extremism helps make a moderate conservative platform more acceptable. SHH! Don’t tell any liberals.

      :evil: I am a bad boy. I need a spanking. Excuse me! I have to go to another website to be punished……

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      Saddam and OKC(1995)?…

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      Has anyone read Jayna Davis’ book or even looked through the material found on her website?

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      I heard her on the radio and will read her book. She seeemed to have plenty of verification for her statements!

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      Now CAL gov gets a chance to invalidate some signatures…

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      @ZimZaxZeo:

      @El:

      Now, now, JZ! If It weren’t for Cauliflournia the rest of the post-civilized world would be at war with the USA as the New Fourth Reich. Seig Bush!

      Be grateful for the balance they bring to our country.

      I, for one, am glad of the balance that lovely ol’ Canada brings to our continent – thanks y’all from up north there!

      WHAT THE %$##@*^!?!? Did you post on the wrong thread?

      Jan__, I believe Saddam’s last two approval ratings(taken at election time, therefore, equaling his vote percentages were 99.6%(1995, I think) and 99.9%(2000, I think.) Interestingly enough, immediately after both elections, 0.4%(1995) and 0.1%(2000) of the voters shot themselves in the back of their heads. There has been some idle speculation due to the fact that when these #s are added together they equal 100.0% for both elections. No complete cross-referencing has been done to verify that all these distraught voters did not support Saddam. There has been some support for the idea that these unfortunate voters were upset that Saddam did not get unanamous approval.

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      …and from the "Build a Better Mousetrap Category"

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      F___, My mama is 79 years old!!! She remembers WWII and the US Depression.

      Damn! My grandfather is 70!

      My father is 47, but here is the unusual thing I am 31 :o

      I should mention my Son is 4 :D

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      What's Kofi up to now?

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      Ooh ooh! Thankew vewy mucho, dz!! Ewe r sew kynd.

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      More Clinton Scatology…

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      I don’t pay for air(I just breathe…unless you are talking about being born. My parents paid for that.) nor water(Well, not much anyways. No Evian[no french insult intended here] nor even Walmart[except enough on hand to get me through the “average 3-day Al Qaida[spelling varies] poisoned the water scare.”) I just use tap with a skosh of lemon or lime juice.

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      TMI…...

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      @El:

      The Bush Administration has handed over 39,000 pages of documentation…The courts have said they found nothing in the documents, BUT THEY WANT MORE!!!

      Last time i heard something like that was a small arabian country handing over lots of docu to an international organization ;)….
      GWB could be more creative than that :D … but at least he shows that he can learn ;)

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      Ozone27 & Darth Maximus are…

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      No fair, I was hoping for an interesting story! maybe more like…

      "Ozone27 & Darth Maximus are…

      …Dead!
      …Partners in crime!
      …Married to each other!
      …Aliens!
      …Terrorists!
      …Looking at you right now through your window!

      See, endless possibilities :) Ah well, better luck next time :wink:

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      The poor in the US & the poor in the rest of the world..

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      @El:

      Another form of World Charity…
      What happens to the world’s economy if all countries buy their own products where available, but elsewhere when necessary…

      I think i didn’t totally understand that. You mean “buy their own even if moer expensive”, and only if that is not enough go and import?
      I suppose so, so let’s look…

      Canada buys its own lumber. The US buys Canadian lumber. Who is helped? Canadian limber industries. Who is hurt? US lumber industries.

      Not right. Canada is the biggest exporter of lumber products (21.2%). They would be hurt if people did not buy from them. The US only has 11.1% of that market, they mainly sell their lumber in their country anyway. In contrast the 31 millions Canadians don’t use as much wood as the 275 million USies (per capita they are comparable). The US lumber industry would lose not as much as the Canadians. So…. you are wrong :)

      Source: http://www.cofi.org/reports/factbook2000/Chapters from FACTBOOK 2000-Part I.pdf

      The US buys its own Christmas decorations. China buys its own Christmas decorations. Who is helped? The US foofaraw industries. Who is hurt? Chinese prison wardens and sweatshops.

      Well, does it hurt the chinese (who probably don’t have that big market for christmas deco)? They would put that work into something else. It would help the US industry though, taken that you USies import a cheap lot from China.

      Japan buys its own computer chips. The US buys Japanese computer chips. Who is helped? Japanese tech industries. Who is hurt? US tech industries.

      Why are they hurt? By what you say in the beginning the above means that there are no US chips available. How does that hurt the US, when there are none anyway?

      The US buys its own wines and beer. France and Germany buy their own wines and beers. Who is helped? The US alcohol industries. Who is hurt? The French and Germany brewmeisters.

      Do not forget the US customers here, who are hurt, and the german and french drinking people, who can be sure to get good beer and wine only and not fall into this mean “Budweiser”/“Budvar” trap….

      Russia cannot afford to buy its own diamonds. The EU and US buy Russian diamonds. Who is helped? Russia, the EU and US. Who is hurt? Nobody.

      “Can’t afford” kind of contradicts the term “available”. The EU and US, having no large diamond mines would buy russian/south african diamonds anyway. So, i don’t see why the real world and your model would differ here at all.

      The US watches its own Whorelywood movies and TurpitudeVision. The EU watches Cannes movies and ?. Who is helped? France is better off because the youth of France no longer have American negative behavioural influence and the French language is saved from Anglicization. The US is better off because Whorelywood only has 30% of its original budget. This causes fewer movies to be made, but they are of better quality(otherwise, the good and great directors, producers, actors keep working, but Sean Penn, Michael Moore, Madonna and Julia Roberts are working as telephone solicitors in East LA.) Both the US and Europe find a strange thing happening… families are spending personal time together. Who is hurt? Canada has an influx of unemployed actors and Peter Jennings.

      Don’t forget Australia who would suffer from that with unemployed actors… and i don’t think the quality for Hollywood movies would go up:
      (1) Sean Penn is a great actor
      (2) you would lose/have lost the services of Mel Gibson, Nicole Kidman, Cate Blanchett, Russell Crowe, Elle Macpherson, Stephen Hopkins (dir), Errol Flynn (all Australia); Klaus Kinski, Johnny Weissmüller (!), Franka Potente, Marlene Dietrich, Fritz Lang (dir), F.W. Murnau (dir), R. Fassbinder (dir), W. Wenders (dir), Billy Wilder (dir), Roland Emmerich (dir); Wolfgang Petersen (dir), E. Lubitsch (dir), Peter Lorre (all Germany, Austria)…

      Now look at the movies never made or seen by you…
      Casblanca (Lorre), Tarzan (Weissmüller), for Flynn see:
      http://www.imdb.com/Name?Flynn,+Errol
      No “Independance day”, no Godzilla (Emmerich), no “Patriot” and “Lethal Weapons” (Gibson), No “beautiful mind”, “Gladiator” (Crowe), no Nosferatu (Kinski, Fassbinder; Murnau), no Metropolis (Lang), no “M” (Lorre, Lang), no “Run, Lola, run” (Potente),
      etc. etc. etc. etc.
      and these are only two countries …

      So, i guess the quality would be even worse :)

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      More about California?!?!

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      By : ERICA WERNER
      The Associated Press

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      Sunday, June 15, 2003; 9:23 PM

      Recall of Calif. Governor Close to Ballot

      LOS ANGELES - A Republican-led campaign to recall California’s Democrat governor, once dismissed as improbable, now appears poised to qualify for the ballot - and to shake up CA politics like never before.

      The outcome is anyone’s guess, and the situation has politicians from both parties scrambling. It promises to be “a wild ride,” promises one political consultant.

      Gov. Gray Davis was elected in a landslide in 1998 but his approval rating tumbled to 28 percent amid voter wrath over the state’s energy and budget crises.

      Now he could find himself forced from office by a campaign that has been fired up a little-known conservative congressman who has poured $800,000 into the effort so far.

      Potential Republican replacements range from that congressman, Rep. Darrell Issa, to Bill Simon, the financier Davis narrowly beat in November, to actor Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose advisers say he will decide whether to run after the July 2 release of “Terminator 3.”

      Davis could even be replaced by a fellow Democrat, like Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who has not ruled out a run.

      Many Republicans fear the recall could backfire and leave them worse off in a state where Democrats already control every statewide office and both houses of the Legislature.
      @LJ:

      Poop or get off the pot poppycock(Latin for “chickenpoop”) Republicans!!

      “This entire process is unprecedented,” state GOP communications consultant Rob Stutzman said Sunday.

      When Republican activists started talking recall four months ago, few would have predicted it would get so far. Recall campaigns have been attempted 31 times against California governors but none has made it to the ballot.
      @LJ:

      Thirty-second time’s a charm!

      But everything changed in May, when Issa began shoveling money into the campaign. The ambitious car alarm magnate from the San Diego area, who has served in Congress since 2000, has set up a gubernatorial campaign committee. He started campaigning around the state Saturday.

      “Darrell Issa supplied the fuel necessary. Now the rest is just mechanical,” said Allan Hoffenblum, a Republican consultant. “It’s not a matter of if, it’s just a matter of when. And it’s going to be a wild ride.”

      Recall supporters have until Sept. 2 to collect nearly 900,000 signatures to get the measure on the ballot. They hope to complete the process next month to force a special election this fall instead of next March, when Democrats will turn out for the state’s presidential primary.

      With Issa’s money funding an army of paid signature gatherers, recall organizers claim they’ve already collected more than 700,000 signatures.

      After playing down the recall effort for months, Davis allies recently formed a committee to fight it, raised nearly $800,000 and hired signature gatherers of their own.
      @LJ:

      Davis’ petition is hidden in another Democrat giveaway offer for the needy children of CA.

      Davis himself has begun speaking out against the campaign.
      @LJ:

      NO hsit, Sherlock!

      “It will move us backwards and cost the taxpayers $30 million,” he told The Associated Press on Friday, referring to the projected cost of a special election. “It’s just a bunch of affluent losers who are trying to spend money to throw this state into reverse.”
      @LJ:

      Isn’t that the pot calling the cotton ball black!!

      Issa denies that he is funding the recall just to forward his own political ambitions.
      @LJ:

      Hmm! Could be.

      “Many people say here’s this rich guy trying to buy himself a governorship, right? Wrong,” Issa told a gathering of moderate Republicans on Saturday. “People stand 30-deep to sign this petition … I’m supporting the recall because Gray Davis needs to go.”

      Anyone could get on a recall ballot by paying a $3,500 filing fee or collecting 10,000 signatures. That means there could be numerous candidates and the victor could win with a relatively small number of votes.

      The format has set off furious jockeying in Democrat circles over whether to close ranks around Davis or attempt to unite behind a strong Democrat to replace him if he is recalled. Feinstein’s name is the most often mentioned.
      @LJ:

      I’d stick with Gray-out Davis if I was you. If he loses the election you lose him. If he wins the election and destroys CA you can blame hime, If you try a new candidate and sink the new candidate you hurt the future of your party. I do not believe we need to waste time discussing Gray-out Davis winning or saving CA.

      On the Republican side, many party leaders fear a Democrat could win or that the recall could distract from efforts to re-elect President Bush.
      @LJ:

      And what if St. George didn’t kill the dragon or support the Pope?

      Regardless of the outcome, the victor would get an unenviable prize: the job of handling the state’s $38.2 billion budget deficit.

      “I’m concerned it could be successful, and some poor Republican governor walks into an empty office in Sacramento and says ‘What do we do now?’” said former GOP Assemblyman Brooks Firestone.
      @LJ:

      You’d rather let a Democrat stay/be in the California governor’s office until Hell cools down and let her/him take credit for it?!? Why not just ask all Republicans in CA to move to Florida and Illinois?? Then you gain more seats in the congress and senate!!

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