@The_Good_Captain said in TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob:
@DoManMacgee also, I added 4 IPC to the USA economy since nothing was lost by moving to the Southern USA convoy zone, freeing it, then returning to the embattled zone
That was me misunderstanding the rules. I thought you couldn’t leave the “contested” zone and then return in the same move, but re-reading the rules nothing explicitly prohibits it. Thanks.
@The_Good_Captain
Game History
Round: 5
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
6 fighters moved from Leningrad to Baltic States
4 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Karelia
EDIT: 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone
Combat - Americans
Battle in Baltic States
Americans attack with 6 fighters
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Americans roll dice for 6 fighters in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
Americans win with 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Americans
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
6 fighters moved from Baltic States to Moscow
EDIT: 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
Place Units - Americans
1 submarine and 2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in United States
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.00
Germans regular : -0.33
No G6 Moscow this time but the FTR pipeline is gone and US is more or less paralyzed for the immediate future. Germany is probably going to win but I’m still interested in seeing where things go from here.
@The_Good_Captain Let me know what you want to do Re: Submerge/Fight. My buy was:
If that influences your decision making for any reason.
@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 5
Actions - Russians
Russians takes action: Action USAPays1PUs
Action USAPays1PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger USAPays1PUs
Trigger USAPays1PUs: Americans met a national objective for an additional -1 PUs; end with 41 PUs
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Karelia
3 armour moved from Leningrad to Moscow
5 artilleries and 50 infantry moved from Russia to Moscow
8 infantry moved from Turkestan to Moscow
1 armour moved from Leningrad to Vyborg
Russians take Vyborg from Germans
1 armour moved from Vyborg to Karelia
Combat - Russians
Battle in Karelia
Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter
Germans defend with 2 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Karelia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Karelia to Moscow
1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Russia
Place Units - Russians
7 infantry placed in Moscow
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.67
Russians regular : 0.33
Game History
Round: 5
Purchase Units - British
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 bomber
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Northern Italy: 1 bomber
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
British buy 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - British
1 submarine moved from North Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Leningrad to Moscow
1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Syria to Iran
1 infantry moved from Turkestan to Caucasus
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Sea Zone
1 artillery, 2 carriers, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from North Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
Combat - British
Battle in France
British attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
Germans defend with 1 armour
British roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in France, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 armour in France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 armour owned by the Germans lost in France
British win, taking France from Germans with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
Non Combat Move - British
Place Units - British
3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
1 transport placed in English Channel Sea Zone
Turn Complete - British
British collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.33
British regular : 0.00
@The_Good_Captain said in TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob:
G5.tsvg I agree its an Achilles heel with the fighter push strategy you have mastered.
I think it’s an Achilles heel in the sense that it devolves the game into a series of are basically coin flips in the Atlantic. Under my current understanding of the game balance when using OOB rules, neither UK or US can realistically afford to divert money during the initial game turns to buy combat-capable naval units (mostly because naval units pre-AA50 are extremely expensive). This basically means that UK/US have to rely on whatever Destroyers survive the G1 attacks + the Russian Sub to clean up the Atlantic, which is a losing battle any way you slice it.
Turn will be up ASAP.
@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 4 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Karelia to Russia
3 artilleries and 31 infantry moved from Leningrad to Russia
6 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Turkestan
1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Stalingrad
1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
British take British Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Germans
1 armour and 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
Combat - Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Leningrad: 3 fighters
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Leningrad: 3 fighters
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Place Units - Russians
4 armour and 1 infantry placed in Leningrad
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - British
British buy 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - British
1 armour moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans
1 infantry moved from France to Eastern France
British take Eastern France from Germans
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Denmark
British take Denmark from Germans
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Denmark
2 carriers and 3 fighters moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to Syria
1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Algeria to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 transport moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Southern Italy
British take Southern Italy from Germans
1 destroyer moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
Americans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans
Combat - British
Non Combat Move - British
1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Turkestan
Place Units - British
1 transport placed in North Sea Sea Zone
3 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
Turn Complete - British
British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 4 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Karelia: 1 aaGun
3 fighters moved from United States to North Sea Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Russia
3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad
Non Combat Move - Americans
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Leningrad: 1 aaGun
EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Moscow: 1 aaGun
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 1 aaGun
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Place Units - Americans
4 infantry placed in United States
3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 36 PUs; end with 39 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
I did not think you would break the script and walk forward. Let’s see what happens.
@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R.
5 armour moved from Belorussia to Baltic States
Russians take Baltic States from Germans
2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Karelia
5 armour moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 27 infantry moved from Belorussia to Leningrad
1 submarine moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
British take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from Germans
Combat - Russians
Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
Russians attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
Germans defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
Germans roll AA dice in Ukraine S.S.R. : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 bomber owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
Casualties for Russians: 1 bomber
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 transport moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
Place Units - Russians
6 infantry placed in Stalingrad
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 23 PUs; end with 24 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans AA : -0.17
Germans regular : 0.67
Russians regular : 1.17
Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - British
British buy 2 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - British
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Algeria
1 transport moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Northern Italy
British take Northern Italy from Germans
1 infantry moved from Vichy France to France
British take France from Germans
3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad
1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Stalingrad
1 armour moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
Combat - British
Battle in Algeria
British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the British lost in Algeria
1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Algeria
British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 bomber in Algeria, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Algeria, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 artillery owned by the British lost in Algeria
1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Algeria
British win, taking Algeria from Germans with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - British
1 bomber moved from Algeria to Gibraltar
1 destroyer moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
Place Units - British
2 transports placed in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
Turn Complete - British
British collect 25 PUs; end with 26 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.67
British regular : 0.67
Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 9 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
4 fighters moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from United States to United Kingdom
Combat - Americans
Battle in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
Americans attack with 4 fighters
Germans defend with 1 battleship
Americans roll dice for 4 fighters in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
Americans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship
Non Combat Move - Americans
3 fighters moved from British Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
Place Units - Americans
3 fighters placed in United States
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 30 PUs; end with 39 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.00
Germans regular : 0.33
@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 4
Actions - Russians
Russians takes action: Action UKPays1PUs
Action UKPays1PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger UKPays1PUs
Trigger UKPays1PUs: British met a national objective for an additional -1 PUs; end with 16 PUs
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
1 armour moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Baltic States
1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Baltic States
Combat - Russians
Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
Russians attack with 1 armour
Germans defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Battle in Baltic States
Russians attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
Russians win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
5 infantry moved from Karelia to Russia
2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Leningrad to Russia
4 armour moved from Belorussia to Leningrad
8 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Turkestan
1 aaGun moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia
3 artilleries and 41 infantry moved from Belorussia to Russia
Place Units - Russians
6 infantry placed in Moscow
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.67
Russians regular : 1.33
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - British
British buy 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - British
2 carriers and 4 fighters moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to North Atlantic Sea Zone
1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
1 armour moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
1 armour moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
British take France from Germans
1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Palestine to Syria
1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Turkestan
2 fighters moved from Stalingrad to Leningrad
Combat - British
Non Combat Move - British
Place Units - British
2 transports placed in English Channel Sea Zone
Turn Complete - British
British collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 6 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
4 fighters moved from United States to North Sea Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad
4 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Vyborg
1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Vyborg
Combat - Americans
Battle in Vyborg
Americans attack with 1 bomber and 4 fighters
Germans defend with 2 infantry
Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 4 fighters in Vyborg, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Vyborg
2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg
Americans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -21
Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 1 fighter
Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
Non Combat Move - Americans
3 fighters moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
Place Units - Americans
1 submarine and 2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
2 infantry placed in United States
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 36 PUs; end with 42 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.33
Germans regular : 1.33
Am rapidly realizing my previous guess about the ME was wrong. The Atlantic really is the end-all/be-all here because of the convoy spaces.
@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 2
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 9 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
1 transport moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from United States to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Iceland to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
Combat - Americans
Battle in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 transport
Germans defend with 1 destroyer
Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 transport in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 transport owned by the Americans lost in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -11
Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 1 transport
Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
Battle in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
Germans defend with 1 submarine
Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
Americans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
Non Combat Move - Americans
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing ownership of U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans to Americans
EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
3 fighters moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
Place Units - Americans
3 fighters placed in United States
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 36 PUs; end with 45 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 1.67
Germans regular : 1.67
@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - British
British buy 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - British
2 fighters moved from Leningrad to Baltic States
1 bomber moved from Stalingrad to Baltic States
1 armour moved from Palestine to Egypt
Middle_East take Egypt from Germans
1 armour moved from Egypt to Palestine
1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
2 carriers and 4 fighters moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
Combat - British
Battle in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
British attack with 2 carriers; Americans loiter and taunt
Germans defend with 1 submarine
1 submarine owned by the Germans submerged
Battle in Baltic States
British attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters
Germans defend with 1 infantry
British roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 bomber owned by the British lost in Baltic States
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
British winBritish winBritish win, taking Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Germans with 2 carriers remaining with 2 carriers remaining with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
Casualties for British: 1 bomber
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - British
2 fighters moved from Baltic States to Stalingrad
Place Units - British
1 submarine placed in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
1 transport placed in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
Turn Complete - British
British collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.67
British regular : 0.33
Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 4 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Rumania
3 fighters moved from United States to United Kingdom
Combat - Americans
Americans creates battle in territory Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
Battle in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
British loiter and taunt; Americans attack with 4 fighters
Germans defend with 1 submarine
1 submarine owned by the Germans submerged
Battle in Rumania
Americans attack with 1 bomber
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in Rumania, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rumania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rumania
Americans winAmericans winAmericans win with 4 fighters remaining with 4 fighters remaining with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Americans
1 bomber moved from Rumania to Caucasus
Place Units - Americans
4 fighters placed in United States
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.33
Germans regular : -0.33
@VictoryFirst And the German response:
[dice 1d6<=2]
@VictoryFirst Anyway ranting about statistics aside, back to the game. USA Attacks Germans in American Convoy (6 IPC):
[dice 4d6<=3]
@VictoryFirst Additionally, I’ve also noticed that when large groups of units attack a small force, if the attacker scores an overwhelming number of hits (i.e. 4 attackers Vs. 2 defenders score 4/4 hits), the result is recorded as a large-scale luck “+” for the attackers, even though said luck did not matter. Basically, what I’m saying is that when trying to model these things, some care should be given to “when” the luck happened. Not all “Germany +6.50” scenarios are equivalent to one another.
@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 2
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Russia to Karelia
1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Belorussia to Baltic States
Russians take Baltic States from Germans
1 armour moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
11 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
Combat - Russians
Battle in Karelia
Russians attack with 1 artillery and 6 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 1 artillery and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Battle in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
Russians attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter
Germans defend with 1 transport
Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 transport in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
Russians win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Belorussia
3 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
1 aaGun moved from Russia to Moscow
1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Karelia
Place Units - Russians
6 infantry placed in Leningrad
Russians undo move 1.
6 infantry placed in Leningrad
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 1 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Stalingrad: 1 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.50
Russians regular : 0.33
Game History
Round: 2
Purchase Units - British
British buy 2 carriers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;
Combat Move - British
1 infantry moved from Libya to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
British take Tunisia from Germans
1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Vichy France
British take Vichy France from Germans
3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom
1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
Combat - British
Battle in British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
British attack with 1 bomber
Germans defend with 1 transport
British roll dice for 1 bomber in British Convoy 3 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 transport in British Convoy 3 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 bomber in British Convoy 3 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 transport in British Convoy 3 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 bomber in British Convoy 3 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 transport in British Convoy 3 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
1 transport owned by the Germans lost in British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
Non Combat Move - British
1 bomber moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
Place Units - British
2 carriers placed in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
Turn Complete - British
British collect 12 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.50
British regular : -1.00
The dice stats presented by TripleA seem off to be. Yes the UK Bomber technically missed the German Transport several times before getting the kill, but at the end of the day the result was that UK won and the Bomber lived. In my mind, that means UK should be “+” on the exchange.
Basically, what I’m saying is that rounds where both sides scored 0 hits should be discounted.
@VictoryFirst 0/13 hits. I’m approaching TGC’s level of bad luck lol.
Jokes aside, will work on my move later this afternoon.
@VictoryFirst So the UK DD dies while the US one lives. Feel free to make that edit during your Germany turn. It would not have changed anything that I did.
@VictoryFirst Your second screenshot does not appear to be from the AAE rulebook but one of the combat examples in the rulebook clearly shows that you are allowed to fire back with any hit submarines (as if the Germans needed even more advantages than they already had lol):
Rolling:
2 Subs @ Celtic SZ:
[dice 2d6<=2]
1 Sub @ Davis Strait SZ:
[dice 1d6<=2]
@The_Good_Captain Do you want to fight to the death again? USSR’s turn is already over so you’re not blocking income anymore but you may be able to kill the carriers if my luck continues to trend badly. From what I can tell, in this edition Submarines do not get sneak-attack rolls when on defense; only offense.
@The_Good_Captain I’m on three hours of sleep and have lost what little remains of my sanity:
[dice 2d6<=1]