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@mikawagunichi said in Path to Victory League Discussion:

@Daaras @Stucifer Also adds some historical realism IMO. In G40 and it’s variants a lot of people play in a manner to try to almost never lose planes, but in reality losses were severe and unavoidable. Every country with the capacity to do so was building planes hand over fist to replace losses.

I would love to address this issue too. Plane attrition on the Eastern Front feels nonexistent in most games, save the occasional bomber shot down by infrastructure. In the war it was significant for both sides…

Quite the aside, but one of the ideas I’ve had for a spinoff variant (would be too much of a change from regular A&A I feel) is having planes have 2 hit points.

Attacking planes that are damaged do half damage on bombing runs and automatically retreat at the beginning of a new combat round. Defending planes roll at 1/2/2 for Strats/Tacs/Fighters.

Damaged planes that survive must be repaired (don’t require special infrastructure) for an IPC cost.
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L25 PTV MikawaGunichi (X+13) vs 666 (Allies)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 8
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Kwangsi Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Hopei 3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Szechwan to Hopei 1 artillery moved from Hunan to Hopei Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Hopei Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 11 PUs; end with 12 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : -0.33
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L25 PTV ArtofWar (X+10) v Stucifer (L)

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TFW USA Bombs Japan for Free Infantry
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L25 PtV Dawgoneit (X+25) v Stucifer (L)

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@dawgoneit NO scramble, thanks
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L25 PTV Stucifer (X+12) v Nikola1975 (L)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 5 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 7 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 122 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 116 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 128 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad Germans take Leningrad from Russians 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine Germans take Ukraine from Russians 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malta to Gibraltar 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar 1 marine moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Algeria to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 marine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar Combat - Germans Germans creates battle in territory 112 Sea Zone British scrambles 1 units out of 93 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Gibraltar Battle in Gibraltar Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 harbour; French defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Gibraltar, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers in Gibraltar, round 2 : 6/11 hits, 5.33 expected hits British roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 5 fighters in Gibraltar, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4.83 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 bombers owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the Germans lost in Gibraltar 1 armour owned by the Americans, 1 bomber owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the Americans, 1 artillery owned by the Americans, 1 fighter owned by the French and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Gibraltar Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers in Gibraltar, round 3 : 4/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits British roll dice for 3 fighters in Gibraltar, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Germans lost in Gibraltar 3 fighters owned by the British lost in Gibraltar Germans win, taking Gibraltar from British with 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 bomber and 3 fighters Casualties for Americans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter Casualties for French: 1 fighter Battle in 128 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 128 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 128 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in 128 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 128 Sea Zone Germans win, taking 128 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Leningrad: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Leningrad Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Ukraine: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Ukraine Non Combat Move - Germans Trigger Leningrad Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Leningrad_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans Trigger Ukraine Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Ukraine_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 94 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Romania to Southern Italy 2 tactical_bombers moved from Romania to Southern Italy 1 aaGun and 9 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 128 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 3 armour moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to France 9 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 submarine moved from 122 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 1 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux 3 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Germany 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 116 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 108 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1 Germans collect 48 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 48 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 51 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.00 British regular : 1.00
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1914 Game - Ragnell804 (CP) vs TGC (Entente), 1914 Balanced

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Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 2 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Tatarstan to Moscow 4 infantry moved from Belarus to Livonia 8 artilleries and 31 infantry moved from Belarus to Moscow Combat - Russians Battle in Livonia Russians attack with 4 infantry Germans defend with 3 infantry Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Livonia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Livonia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Livonia 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Livonia Germans and Russians reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Combat Move - Russians Place Units - Russians 2 fighters and 3 infantry placed in Moscow Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 17 PUs; end with 19 PUs
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Germans regular : -0.50 Russians regular : -0.33
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 7
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 7 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Smolensk to Bryansk Italians take Bryansk from Russians 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Smolensk Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Rostov 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 2 bombers moved from Southern Italy to Smolensk Place Units - Italians 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,4,4,3,5,1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3 Italians collect 14 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 14 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Stalingrad: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Northern Caucasus: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
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PTV 25 Nikola v 666 (axis +12)

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@nikola1975 scramble?

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