Posts made by Dashofpepper

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 armour, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 2 PUs;

Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly

Combat Move - Japanese
            2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            2 carriers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
                  Japanese take French Indo China from French
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to India
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to Yunnan

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@ShadowHAwk:

@Dashofpepper:

Shadow - I sent you a PM - couple notes:

-My tactical bombers didn’t go into the UK from Western Germany or SZ112 even though I had the movement because the interface wouldn’t let me bomb from Western Germany, or move at all from SZ112.   My move would have been more…bombier if it had.

-Assuming I have to run with this (and my 11 transport purchase should telegraph intent) I intend to pick up 11 infantry from Germany and Norway, the one artillery piece from Germany, and 6 tanks / 4 mech infantry from Holland for my invasion.

I forgot to non combat move infantry from Finland to Norway to support this; let me edit and fix that.

tacticals cannot bomb factories they can bomb air and naval bases though.

I should have goten an intercept for your bombers but since you also did not go for the tacticals lets just ignore that detail :D

I didn’t ask if you wanted to scramble there because I’d read in the forums here never to scramble against SBRs because its rolling ones all around and can cost fighters for no tactical gain, so I assumed you wouldn’t want to.  Would you like to revert and scramble?  It’s my bad assumption.  I figured you were going to want those two fighters guaranteed intact for the coming Sea Lion.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Russians

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Shadow - I sent you a PM - couple notes:

-My tactical bombers didn’t go into the UK from Western Germany or SZ112 even though I had the movement because the interface wouldn’t let me bomb from Western Germany, or move at all from SZ112.  My move would have been more…bombier if it had.

-Assuming I have to run with this (and my 11 transport purchase should telegraph intent) I intend to pick up 11 infantry from Germany and Norway, the one artillery piece from Germany, and 6 tanks / 4 mech infantry from Holland for my invasion.

I forgot to non combat move infantry from Finland to Norway to support this; let me edit and fix that.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery and 11 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
            2 artilleries moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            6 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Holland Belgium
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Greece

Combat - Germans
            Air Battle in United Kingdom
                Germans attacks with 2 units heading to United Kingdom
                Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 6,6 and causes: 12 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 12 damage total.
            Battle in Greece
                Germans attack with 3 armour and 5 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                4 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Bulgaria
                Neutral_Allies win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 2 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 4 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from French with 6 armour, 4 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 2 fighters
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
            Cleaning up after air battles

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            5 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
            1 cruiser and 2 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania

Place Units - Germans
            10 transports placed in 113 Sea Zone
            1 transport placed in 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 42 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs

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Hey folks!

I’m trying to figure out if these are rule misunderstandings or a TripleA problem.

1.  Triple A won’t let me use my German tactical bombers to bomb a factory in the UK.  It will let me fly to the UK from Western Germany, but the only options I have for bombing are airfield and harbor.  Is this a tactical bomber rule I didn’t know about?

2.  It also won’t let me fly a tactical bomber from a carrier in SZ112 into the UK; which is a round trip movement of 4.  SZ112->SZ110->UK>SZ110->SZ112.

Any input?

I didn’t attack the french fleet?  Or did you attack me with your french fleet against the remnants of my Italian fleet?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Southern France
                Italians attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Tunisia
                Italians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                Italians win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber and 2 cruisers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 53
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 fighters and 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of British Somaliland from British to Italians
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to British Somaliland: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Italian Somaliland: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Kenya from British to Italians
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Kenya: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Ethiopia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 fighters moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia
            1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Albania to Romania
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya
            1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland
            EDIT: Italians undo move 14.
            EDIT: 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland

Place Units - Italians
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1
            Italians collect 12 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 12 PUs total

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With a G1 Carrier buy, and a strategic retreat from SZ111, that leaves the Germans with a navy consisting of a Battleship, a Cruiser, a transport, a loaded aircraft carrier, and possibly 1-2 subs depending on how combat resolved.

I don’t want to waste a battleship and see it die if I don’t have to.  I also want to be able to project force, which that medium sized navy can do somewhat.

@simon33:

Buying a CV G1 weakens Barbarossa by 4 artillery that could reach Moscow G6. No experienced players do this buy. That should tell you about the strength of it.

Experienced players buy two bombers and a sub on turn 1 right?  What is barbarossa and how does a carrier on turn 1 weaken it by 4 artillery?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Korea to Kiangsi
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi
            1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 aaGun moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria

Place Units - Japanese
            1 artillery placed in Japan
            3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 31 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 41 PUs

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@Ichabod:

Just try it out yourself. This is something you’ll have to learn yourself.

For me, I love executing Sea Lion, but my criteria are different than other persons. I never plan for it on G1 and or even purchase units for it. Several things need to occur on turn 1 and then maybe I’ll consider it.

Several things did happen on G1 of the game I’m in.  I won SZ106, and while Germany always wins SZ110 and SZ111 in my experience, I took less casualties than usual; even had a sub left over when I retreated to 112; killed everything except a plane in two turns.  Usually I consolidate whatever air force I have left and start pushing east, but what is the point of a G1 carrier buy every game to threaten Sea Lion unless you actually use it when opportunity arises?

Hey folks!

The search function isn’t so useful, and I scrolled through 7 pages looking for any recent discussion on sea lion before making this, so if there is already a discussion like this, I apologize.

I’d like to know your opinion on Sea Lion.  My G1 leads off with a Carrier purchase and nothing else (based on a guide I’m following by SubmersedElk), which leaves a threat of Sea Lion.

1.  What is the normal Britain first turn purchase with those $28?  Does a threatened Sea Lion make them buy 9 infantry instead?  How big of a difference does that make?
2.  Assuming a G2 purchase of 10-11 transports, Britain would have two turns to purchase reinforcements…presumably 9 infantry both turns?  Can 11 infantry, whatever tanks, mechs, and artillery can be pulled out of France, and the Luftwaffe remaining after the SZ110 and SZ111 attacks realistically punch through 22 defending infantry?
3.  What turn can Russia declare war on Germany?  I can never remember if its 3 or 4.

Mostly I’d like your opinions on whether Sea Lion is a mistake.  I don’t know what sort of percentage chances of success would happen because I’ve never tried it, but if the London takeover isn’t a sure thing, then I wouldn’t want to risk it and have nothing to fight Russia with…but if it is a sure thing if the G1 sea zone battles went well, just a tactical consideration to ponder against the eastern front, I’d like thoughts on that too.

I’ve mostly been playing against the AI until this Play by Forum that I’m trying with ShadowHAwk, but in all my games, Germany doing a full Russian offensive with Italy as a can-opener for German aircraft to move up a zone can’t get to Russia and take it before the US gets into Europe.

Thanks!  I don’t think I’ve ever managed to keep the sub in SZ106 alive before, so I’ll be interested to see if it plays any part in the game to come.  Also, this is a learning experience for me, so I’m curious to know your thoughts about my G1 carrier purchase, your subsequent scramble, which left Britain mostly defenseless, and whether a G3 Sea Lion can work with a G2 purchase of transports.

Britain starts with $28, so could buy a maximum of 9 infantry; stacking 4 infantry, 1 mech, and additional 9 infantry in Britain. Germany has $82, and could buy 11 transports to send in 11 infantry and a mix of tanks and mech infantry from France with its air force against the defending 13 infantry and tank.

Doing so would prevent a Russian offensive since everything went west instead of east…so Russia would have a couple of turns to get stronger.  I’ve never tried a Sea Lion, and the forum threads I’ve read around here say that its always a mistake…presumably because its too easy for the US to retake it when they enter the war?  Or because it gives Russia the opportunity to become too strong for Germany to neuter before the US can mount a serious European invasion?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 14 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia

Combat - Germans
            British scrambles 1 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 111 Sea Zone
            British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter; British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 41
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                1 battleship owned by the Germans and 2 submarines owned by the Germans retreated to 112 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 40
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery
                Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 7 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Moving scrambled unit from 111 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Scotland
            Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Tobruk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
            11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            3 artilleries moved from Germany to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Western Germany

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier placed in 112 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 72 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 14 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia

Combat - Germans

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Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.9, time: 15:16:33

Opening a thread for a game against Shadowhawk.

@Arthur:

I1:  Buy 1 mech and 1 tank.   VERY IMPORTANT FOR CAN OPENING

I do this.  On I2, two tanks in range attack eastern poland, and on I3, they are joined by the extra tank and mech.  My I2 purchase is 2-3 more tanks, but it takes a turn or two to link up with the can opener.

@Arthur:

G2: Buy minimum 10 fast movers on Western Germany
I2: Declare war, move into Eastern Poland

This is my second turn too - Germany buys 13 tanks.  My first turn is a carrier, which is optimally used to protect a retreating battleship (and maybe a sub too) from SZ111, which gives me threat projection later in the game in the north Atlantic.  It also lets me do a naval landing and bombardment on Nov

@Arthur:

G3: Declare war, have main stack join forces in Eastern Poland; buy additional fast movers in W. Germany
I3: Move into Belarus.  I have mastered the Northern route.  Much easier to learn and thrive this option.

I’ve been going south because there were two factories down there, along with the Caucasus.  I haven’t tried going North - isn’t that going to lead me to getting bottlenecked in the same place though?  Bryansk?  My G3 turn is the same, another ~8 tanks I think.

@Arthur:

Tip 1) purchase 2 inf + 1 art per turn in France whenever possible.  Combined with planes you will have a potent force to counter Allied invasion in Normandy.  Maybe replace an inf with a mech if you want flexibility to support Italy

Tip 2).  Purchase 2 inf or 1 inf + 1 art each turn and move with transport to Finland.

I had not tried these.  I was literally just buying however many tanks I could afford every turn and sending them east - and not doing anything in the west until the allies had landed in Normandy, so I never have a one turn answer to them because I have to build for a turn.  I hadn’t even thought about the transport moving units into Finland - I’d been buying tanks so that they could get to the Moscow threat sooner, but the transit here does the same thing.  The transport lets me get a free naval invasion of Novgorod too, hopefully with naval bombardment.

@Arthur:

Tip 3).  Have big air force that has the flexibility to attack into:
a) sea zones
b) W. Europe
c) Scandanavia
d) Russia
e) oil fields

My German air force usually gets depleted a bit in G1 from the SZ110 and SZ111 attacks.  I don’t rebuild it because I’ve been going full tanks to push the eastern front.  The SZ110 scramble usually costs me a a couple tactical bombers and a fighter.  How do you balance restoring an air force or doing “dark skies” or having the ability to threaten these places at all with building tanks to send east?  The threat of a Russian counterattack against a too small German army is real.

@Arthur:

Tip 4) try to keep Italy from being convoyed raided to death;  if the Allies commit almost everything in the Med, that is great because it is difficult to send additional forces from the United States.

How do you stop Italy from getting convoy raided to death?  I see a lot of staging in Gibraltar.  And can you define the convoy raiding?  Do you mean staging in Gibraltar and then going into southern france or Northern Italy?  I mostly see staging in Gibraltar to invade Normandy/Western Germany, or movement through Africa.

@Arthur:

15-20 bombers create a devastating strike force when combined with some fodder forces.  From an airbase in W. Germany or Italy, they can go almost anywhere.

Same question here - how does one afford that?  Do you not build tanks, and build air force instead?

Hey folks!

I feel like a lot of Axis guides and strategies rely on rushing into Russia and felling Moscow - but I haven’t been able to make it work.  This is the general German progress:

G1:  Germany takes France and Yugoslavia, walks into Bulgaria and Finland.

G2: German armor moves east.
I2:  Italy declares war on Russia and takes Eastern Poland.

G3: Germany stacks up in Eastern Poland, starts bombing Russia.
I3: Italy takes Western Ukraine.

G4: Germany stacks up in Western Ukraine, bombs Russia. At this point, Russia is usually stacked up in Bryansk.
I4:  Italy takes Ukraine.

G5: Germany stacks up in Ukraine (to go around the Bryansk stack via Rostov / Volgograd)

By this time, there’s ~15-20 infantry and 30-35 tanks with the german stack, along with the planes.  It’s not enough to break through the Russian defense in Bryansk, even though there are 8-10 tanks moving east every turn to join the stack; when Baltic and Novgorod clear out, I send whatever minimal force north I can to take them away - but about this time western europe gets invaded by the allies, and I have to pause in my tank building to get a turn or two of infantry defending germany and france.

Eventually, Japan starts creeping into Russia from the far east, but there is no break through for a clean kill on Russia.

Advice?