Posts made by DarthMaximus

I forgot, on the Allied ships

The UK can have a full load of ships on UK 2 regardless if I left the UK Med BB.

4 trns, 1 BB plus Russian and US ships for fodder.

I don’t want everyone to get me wrong, I very much am in favor of killing all the Allied ships and would do so probably 90% of the time.

But if I’m going to kill them I want them all. So when I had my turn planned out in order for me to kill all ships except the US trn It would’ve cost me 2 ftrs.

I probably could’ve left the sub, but I hate that darn thing. :D

But I’m in a game with Mr. G where he killed 1 Ger ftr and almost sacked a 2nd on R1, and in that game I did sack his ships.

I just ended up trying something different, the oppurtunity was there, and I took it.

I think what I’m having a real problem with is Panda wanting to play a PA game (which is fine) and gearing up to defend it, but not looking at the consequences of his defenses. Thus he could lightly defend Kar. Bait my a$$. He made a mistake, period. He’s lucky I really didn’t try to bury him.
I really could’ve done some damage cause I still almost went BB vs. BB and still sink his UK tran with my bom.

I would have had Kar, Cauc and he be down to 1 BB and only 1 trn as the UK with no Russian forces come the start of rd 2.

Yeah.

I was going to take Yak, bigtime.

If his UK ftr landed there, I’d brought in all my planes and would have sacked 1 to take it.

If his ftr went to counter Egy, I would’ve looked at taking China as well with my 3rd ftr.

I would have had to roll them out on my roller, but if I recall I think it was doable to take both.

I also my have dropped off troops in India as well from the Phil.

I was going to go IC and tran for Man. And yes I was going for an all out blitz of Russia.

It would have been a boring game for me as the Germans after rd 3 or 4 if I didn’t take Moscow, but he left the door open and I took it.

I would’ve done Pearl lite as well, as all my fighting force would be needed in Asia ASAP. He could counter an empty HI sz if he liked.

I didn’t know he’d quit if I took Kar. I guess I wasn’t fully aware of the guidelines we were playing under.

I didn’t follow your GWS game, it was over before it started. I saw rd 1 and tuned it out. With no bid it was over.
I have a hard time following other on-line games without a map or very clear summaries. So I don’t know the details of that game.

It wasn’t a horrible move given that you already felt defeated, but given that I would’ve rather staked you with a larger bid so you didn’t have to play like that.

I’m sorry, but to me it seems like you are the one who is defeated.
Maybe I should play the Axis with 18 to make it fair for you. :D 8)

What I am troubled by most of all is that you time and again speak against the PE bid but you basically play it here. Now you can claim the purchase coupled with landing a ftr elsewhere made you make this move, but as I see it regardless of what R1 does you should be doing this if this is how you play a PA bid.

This wasn’t a true PA bid. I only put 4 inf in Afr. The 3 inf Man were to get you to conceded SFR on rd 1 and perhaps threaten a Yak strike on J1. I wan’t to see how you’d react.

I really didn’t know you you had you heart sent on a PA game. I thought we were just playing a game.

If it were true PA I’d go 5-6 inf on Lib and 1-2 on Man, if you want to play PA fine. I’m sorry I messed this game up, otherwise fine.

I accept your surrender. You saved many lives. :D
(That was a joke :wink: ) :o

As it is I don’t think this game is going to get beyond G1.

I just want to know if it was a horrible horrible move, or would players in clubs for rankings/points take a shot.

J1 - mostly likely would hit Chi or Yak or both, esp if the UK ftr went to Egy.

Also a J1 assualt on Moscow would be on the table to kill the 2 UK ftrs that may land there.

50% chance I lose 1 to aa fire. But I’d still sack 2 more to clear the ftrs.

That would leave Germany with 2 inf, 3 ftrs, 1 bom vs. (Rus inf), 1 US bom.

He would have to place at least 4-5 Russian inf to be safe. Otherwise I may try for the rd 2 kill.

But this goes back to our first game.

The whole point of the first game was to test the Japan to Mongolia move.

So I deliberately set up defense for it. But you didn’t use it.

I was prepared to learn why you thought it worked.
Whether it was needed in that game or not I find irrelevant, I still thought you were going to show me. I thought we were testing something in a real game scenerio with unfamiliar players.

But you didn’t use it, and now you use that game as a great example when we didn’t even test what we were going to test.

That’s like me saying Power Africa works because it lets you use a PE strat.

My point is are we playing a game for a “learing experience” or are we “playing to win”.

I was under the impression we are playing to win. So maybe I did do something “desperate”, but it gives me a better chance of winning against someone who has said 22 is not a high enough bid.

I over played for Mon in game 1 and it wasn’t used, you played for PA in game 2 and it wasn’t used.

Seems fair to me.

I have no problem play a “learning” game. We don’t even need a dice roller for that. We can submit turns and just type out what we’ll do and decide fair outcomes on battles. I’m an honest player, I know what battles I should and shouldn’t win. We can do it that.

I was just under the impression, this was my rematch, and I want to win it. If that means “desperate” tactics, then so be it.

See, in your eyes 22 isn’t enough, my job is to try and show it can work. Attacking Kar??? Maybe it was bad, but I can’t possibly believe leaving the UK BB AND sub in the Med was going to help me much.

And if I known I was going to get no hits in Egy, that would changed things as well. I assumed you may have countered there regardless since I only placed 4 inf on Lib to begin with.

This is in reference to my game with SHP (see game section).

But I thought it might be better to not fill up or game thread with Discussion as well.

So here goes:

SHP - Allies
Darth - Axis with 22
Bid 22 - 4 inf Lib, 3 inf Man, 1 IPC Germany

R1 - Bought 6 inf, 1 arm, killed all German ships, strafed Ukr but lost 5 inf, 2 arm in the process. Fortified Yak, landed 1 ftr in Per.
Kar: 13 inf, 2 arm, 1 ftr.
Mos and Cauc: mt
Per: 1 ftr
Yak: 7 inf, 1 arm

So, as Germany after much internal debate I chose for a Rd 1 assualt on Kar an a quick kill

I left the Allied navy and took Kar with 1 arm, 3 ftrs, 1 bom left.
I also took Cauc with 2 inf from Lib.

Yes, I know UK can counter, but I can recounter with 8 inf, 5 arm, 3 ftrs, 1 bom if I choose (I bought 6 inf, 3 arm on G1)

All Russia has left is 7 inf, 1 arm in Yak and 1 ftr on Per.

I would like to know if anyone else would take a shot at a quick win (or loss)? Esp those that play in the clubs like BW or OpTorch.

Given SHP’s skill and his ability to beat an Afr bid I felt he was overly aggressive on Rd 1 as Rus so he could easily kill my Afr bid, but he left Kar and Cauc open. Too open, IMO. So I went for it.
Was this good? Bad? Too early to tell?

I’ve given several reasons for my attack in the game thread but would gladly share here if people are interested. The Germany Summary is posted there as well.

Your thoughts?

Edit:

It is a LL game, and the battle was:
13 inf, 2 arm, 1 ftr (rus) vs. 6 inf, 5 arm, 5 ftrs, 1 bom (ger)

We need a Beer! Stat!

I’m a moderate too!!! :wink: :D

Lol!

I would be busy throwing the game and betting on you as well. :wink:

Uh yeah, I’m confident my 1 inf will hold Moscow.

Oh no, I lost, that’s too bad.

walks to cashier to collect his winnings :D

LOL!!!

That one is great!

I love how he starts using it to open beer cans, turn off lights, turn on the TV.

And when he was waiting to get the gun all those targets go by him.

Great Stuff!

That’s okay, I’ve got a board with a nail in it! :D

What about the Dirty Bird? :P

Yes, the Steelers won 3 in 5 yrs and 4 in 6.
Ah, the good ole SB shuffle. That Bears team should’ve won more than 1 SB. They were the youngest team in the league when they won that.

Chorus
We are the Bears Shufflin’ Crew
Shufflin’ on down, doin’ it for you.
We’re so bad we know we’re good.
Blowin’ your mind like we knew we would.
You know we’re just struttin’ for fun
Struttin’ our stuff for everyone.
We’re not here to start not trouble.
We’re just here to do the Super Bowl Shuffle.

Walter Payton
Well, they call me Sweetness,
And I like to dance.
Runnin’ the ball is like makin’ romance.
We’ve had the goal since training camp
To give Chicago a Super Bowl Champ.
And we’re not doin’ this
Because we’re greedy.
The Bears are doin’ it to feed the needy.
We didn’t come here to look for trouble,
We just came here to do
The Super Bowl Shuffle.

Willie Gault
This is Speedy Willie, and I’m world class.
I like runnin’ but i love to get the pass.
I practice all day and dance all night,
I got to get ready for the Sunday fight.
Now I’m as smooth as a chocolate swirl,
I dance a little funky, so watch me girl.
There’s not one here that does it like me,
My Super Bowl Shuffle will set you free.

Mike Singletary
I’m Samurai Mike I stop’em cold.
Part of the defense, big and bold,
I’ve been jammin’ for quite a while,
Doin’ what’s right and settin’ the style,
Give me a chance, I’ll rock you good,
Nobody messin’ in my neighborhood.
I didn’t come here lookin’ for trouble,
I just came to do The Super Bowl Shuffle

(Repeat Chorus)

Jim McMahon
I’m the punky QB, known as McMahon.
When I hit the turf, I’ve got no plan.
I just throw my body all over the field.
I can’t dance, but I can throw the pill.
I motivate the cats, I like to tease.
I play so cool, I aim to please.
That’s why you all got here on the double
To catch me doin’ the Super Bowl Shuffle.

Otis Wilson
I’m mama’s boy Otis, one of a kind.
The ladies all love me
For my body and my mind.
I’m slick on the floor as I can be
But ain’t no sucker gonna get past me.
Some guys are jealous
Of my style and class,
That’s why some end up on their -,
I didn’t come here lookin’ for trouble,
I just get down to The Super Bowl Shuffle.

Steve Fuller
They say Jimbo is our man.
If Jimmy can’t do it, I sure can.
This is Steve, and it’s no wonder
I run like lightnin’, pass like thunder.
So bring on Atlanta, bring on Dallas,
This is for Mike and Papa Bear Halas.
I’m not here to feather his ruffle,
I just came here to do
The Super Bowl Shuffle.

Mike Richardson
I’m L.A. Mike, and I play it cool.
They don’t sneak by me 'cause I’m no fool.
I fly on the field and get on down.
Everybody knows I don’t mess around.
I can break’em, shake’em,
Any time of day.
I like to steal it and make 'em pay,
So please don’t cry to beat my hustle
'Cause I’m just here to do
The Super Bowl Shuffle.

(Repeat Chorus)

Richard Dent
The sackman’s comin’, I’m your man Dent.
if the quarterback’s slow,
He’s gonna get bent.
We stop the run, we stop the pass,
I like to dump guys on their -.
We love to play for the world’s best fans,
You better start makin’
Your Super Bowl plans.
But don’t get ready or go to any trouble
Unless you practice
The Super Bowl Shuffle.

Gary Fencik
It’s Gary here, and I’m Mr.Clean.
They call me “hit man,”
Don’t know what they mean.
They throw it long and watch me run,
I’m on my man, one-on-one.
Buddy’s guys cover it down to the bone,
That’s why they call us the 46 zone.
Come on everybody let’s scream and yell,
We’re goin’ to do the Shuffle,
Then ring your bell.

William Perry
You’re lookin’ at the Fridge,
I’m the rookie.
I may be large, but I’m no dumb cookie.
You’ve seen me hit, you’ve seen me run,
When I kick and pass, we’ll have more fun.
I can dance, you will see
The others, they all learn from me.
I don’t come here lookin’ for trouble,
I just came here to do
The Super Bowl Shuffle.

(Repeat Chorus)

Gotta help out the 26-30 range.

Well, 7-7 at Half. Pretty good game.

Now, Sir Paul is on. 8)

Prediction:

Patriots 30
Eagles 17

No, the first time i used this strat the naval and the manch combats went well, but not the 2 europeans. On the germanys turn he took karelia. Russia was open. Its a strat that gives more chances to germany to win if it goes not the way u wanted.

But why, as Russia, open your self up to this?
The Naval battle is meaningless if the European battles go bad, and so is the Man battle. Like your example shows. Why open the door for Ger and give them the oppurtunity to win?

I like trying new strats, but I like doing it with Germany and Japan.

The problem with most Allied strats (in a regular game) is no matter what the Allies do they are going to win.

I mean even if this strat fails on 2 or 3 battles the Allies should/could still win the game.

Bids and playing RR, allow you to try new things and put a little pressure on the Allies, thus allowing new Allied (and Axis) strats to emerge.

For example, put an extra German tank and 3 inf in Afr to start, or a few extra German inf in Europe, or Japanese inf in Asia. It opens the game up more and gives the Axis more of a fighting chance. If you do, you’ll see that this overly aggressive Russian turn could be a big loser for the Allies, whereas in a normal game the Allies can still win with it even if Russia loses 3 battles.

I don’t think I’d try this strat just because I don’t think it is needed for Russia to be that aggressive in Round 1 in a non RR or non-bid game.

I do usually play RR and would would consider doing something like that in Round 2 minus the baltic battle of course. Manch would be a tough call in round 2, but if Japan attacked too much in rd 1 it could be open.

I’ll hit Fin, Ukr and Cauc (if taken by Ger), and I’d consider hitting Man if it was left open.

I like 9 inf, 1 arm or 10 inf.

On rare rare rare occasions I’ll buy a ftr and 6 inf save 2.

I don’t really like the tran buy because

1. It will get sunk by rd 3 at the latest. I try to make the German ships a priority.
2. to utilize 2 trans means you are taking 4 inf out of Europe. For what? 8 IPC to buy a tran, then an extra 6 IPC for the extra inf. That is 14 IPC for only 1 round, meaning even if you hold all of Africa you only earn about 10. And, IMO, it is very hard to do that.

I think you are much better off with the 1 tran, taking Egy and Syr and whatever else you can early on, while you build up your European if and make a push for Cauc.