Posts made by Darrigaaz

@F_alk:

And you yourself said that drug control didn’t work at all. (“Its not working at all. Its like killing a mosquito only to have ten thousand others swarm you.”)
On the other hand, you are so frightened that gun control would take away your prescious tool for killing. Why? If the one doesn’t work, why should the other?

because im not some criminal drug dealer who evades the law. if a law like this was ever passed, i’d be very pissed at the democrats but i would kindly oblige; then i would work to get it repealed.

That makes no sense.

makes plenty of sense.

Then you don’t mind people owning tanks, jet fighters etc. ?

People do own tanks! have you seen how big some of those SUV’s are? :lol: :lol: Owning a Jet fighter is like owning an AK-47; people do it sometimes, but the government keeps a close eye on them. There are alot of private collectors out there, which brings me to you next point.

I have never heard that guns have another purpose than delivering death.

Collectors; guns are usually MORE valuable if nver fired. LouisXVI had a pistol that had about 3/4 of a pound of jewels on it, making it more of a trophy that “A SATANIC DEATH DELIVERING BEAST FROM HELL”. Many people go to rifle ranges as a source of fun. Yes, fun, or unmandated extracuricular activities.

Whereas cars have a different purpose. They are actually designed for bringing you from one place to another…. EVEN WORSE THAT WE STILL HAVE THESE MECHANIZED DEATH BOXES ON THE ROAD! WHY STILL USE THESE DESTRUCTIVE AND UNCONTROLLABLE FORCES IF THEY KILL SCORES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE A DAY!

And: to use a car you have to do a license.

to use a gun, you do have to have a license. :P

Another point to keep in mind: with over 200 million firearms in the country, who do you think are going to be the only ones who dont hand them in when uncle sam comes calling?

Surely none of his (CC’s) fellow citizens. Surely none of mine. And it is less than 200 million in the country. That would be more than 2 rifles per person (of any age).

dont be so sure, unless you have scoured everyone of your neighbors houses, you cannot know for sure.
sigh
and yes, OVER 200 million. Most hunters own more than one rifle depending on the game and terrain they’re hunting in. Most police stations have mnay more firearms than the officers assigned there. most collectors have insane amounts of firearms. that figure is most definately correct.

Check this Statistic: twice as many inner city children are killed by knives than firearms. What should we outlaw butter knives?

stupid comparison (to the “butter knife”), second, read what CC had posted earlier on the difference of wounds caused by knifes and guns.
Please, you anti gun people seem to enjoy using terms like “stupid” and “whacked”. They really do nothing than to send the impression that your not thinking rationally. i will check the above post of CC’s, but i cant find it :roll:

@Deviant:Scripter:

@F_alk:

@Darrigaaz:

…However, this will be like the prohibition: people WILL find a way. As an American, i know from experience that we are a hard bunch to lick (i hate that expression). They’re trying to control drugs, arent they? not going to well, if i say so myself.

I think this argument is flawed.
Drugs harm yourself, weapons harm others. Still you propose to keep weapons free, and pull the “failed” “drug control” as a reason for that. Wouldn’t that imply that you support free drugs for everyone then as well?
For me, it does, even though you probably don’t want that.

You idiot. Drugs aren’t protected by the constitution, the right to bear arms is. :roll:

DS, while i agree with you, please keep it civilized, this is a very fun topic to discuss and i do not want it to deteriorate into just blasting eachothers opinions.

Janus, this is my stance. It (in modern day no longer coloial sociiety) is a right to have a chance of owning a gun. but if you screw it up, “no gun for you”!

Kmart. When i say Kmart sells guns i mean they have this cabinet over their pocket knife display containing paintballstuff, bb guns, and then three or four rifles and shotguns. I agree, if anything, Kmart should sell maps containing locations of firearms specialty stores; not the arms themselves.

When you say tracers do you mean like GPS locators built into your guns? if you do, i would dissgree with that. the barrel groove print things is a good idea, and may people in government are working toawrds this.

…or procure food.

GG, Have you ever had deer heart?

Why thank you good sir. :D :D

@cystic:

I’ll argue it . . . .

This in my mind would reduce the proliferation of guns far greater than simply selling them at the local K-Mart.

Who buys guns at K-mart, they rip you off and their arms are usually of a poor quality.

Just because the drug war isn’t working perfectly, doesn’t mean that it isn’t working.

Its not working at all. Its like killing a mosquito only to have ten thousand others swarm you.

ahhh yes. The right to own killing devices?

“The Right To Bear Arms”

All that the proliferation of guns does is enhance fear and paranoia.

Without this sounding like a personal attack, these really sound like symptoms your exhibiting. You seem Very sure that firearms are evil tools of satanic death delivering. :)

Or is this another “gov’t vs. us” thing that characterizes some of you guys so well?

Please, you do not know me, so i would greatly appreciate it if you didn’t classify my beliefs as making me something out of “Deliverance”

yeah it’s a tool. A killing people tool. Except it does it sooo much more effectively and from much greater distance than the hammer, saw, drill tool that you mention.

Another Killing tool? the car. Parents shouldnt leave the keys in the car and door open so their seven year old can go for a joyride. its not safe. They shouldnt let kids play on the highway either.

As for your first two sentances - what planet are you from?

Earth

Since when is more slaughtered people and more people in jails preferable to a society with fewer slaughtering devices? Your priorities in this regard are completely whacked.

Its called responsibility. Parents are responsible for feeding, clothing, and sheltering their children. If they fail at this they are charged for criminal neglect or whatever (cant think of the actual crimes name)
P.S. saying my opinions are ‘whacked’ seems on par with saying to me ‘your an idiot’, it has no impact at all on this conversation other than being rude.

he also had access to a gun that killed his (adolescent) friend. The years of life lost in this regard are astounding. The “gee, that’s too bad, if only he had learned gun control” attitude is ridiculous when it would be much easier to restrict firearms from these adolescents.

Well i have access to my parents car and liquor cabinet. doesnt mean im driving down the road drunk and hollering “Hoo-Rah!” I have access to two sticks, that doesnt mean i go around lighting my neighbors houses on fire.

i don’t really have a problem with this, but i am all about keeping all killing machines outside of the city.

Another point to keep in mind: with over 200 million firearms in the country, who do you think are going to be the only ones who dont hand them in when uncle sam comes calling?

As the saying goes, when you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.

Check this Statistic: twice as many inner city children are killed by knives than firearms. What should we outlaw butter knives?

Bartely Fox Act institutes a one year manditory prison sentence for anyone carrying an unliscenced firearm. With all the gang-bangers in the city of boston arrested, many of them have existing unlescenced firearm violations. If so, why are they on the streets? We need no more controling laws, we just need to enforce the ones already out there.

Here is a link to some good German WWII Wav files… maybe you can contact this guy and get some of them in MP3 format.

http://www.tigertank-h-e-181.com/songs_and_lyrics.htm

….the game, does anyone want to take over as the allies to finish up the game?

basically a shorter version of a PBEM.

DAS BOOT IS A KICK @SS MOVIE!

Armored Cavarly only….

…there are jeeps and kubelwagons (SP?) though

Like Mr. Ed kind of horses?

no.

Why thank you GG, its great to get some support on the subject. :)

@F_alk:

if drug control doesn’t work, why waste ressources on that???
that would follow that argument, and is the reason why i called it flawed.

Did i say that? did i even imply that? NO

CC, i dont see how control of the two is different.

Guns would be just as easy to smuggle in as anything else, drugs, people, you name it.
Yes perhaps fewer bad guys would have guns, but the good guys would be getting screwed over and having our rights taken away from us. People who leave their guns lying around and a kid kills themselves? Charge the parents with manslaughter for being so careless. You may as well leave nitroglycerin hanging around. Guns are bangerous in the hands of those who dont know how to use them or those who dont respect them. Nearly any tool is; hammers, saws, drills. Because thats what a firearm is: a tool.

Any adolecent who fools around with a gun and kills himself or a friend, grew up not respecting the gun. Parents actually need to get off their asses and make sure their kids understand the responsibility involved when firearms are present. Growing up in a hunting family, i have always respected the rifles and shotguns my father owns. I have never been tempted to go and look at them, or to show them off to my friends.

Heresay indeed!

while of course, being a game its not true to life (i.e. you dont actually die when your in game avatar does), i would put it above any other online game i’ve played.

The major complaint is that the flying is complicated enough so that it takes massive amounts of practice to get good, but still simple compared to an actual flight simulator.

Well i havent gotten a chance to finish it yet, the guys who were supposed to come over have a football game tonight, so all my plans for global domination are on hold.

not at all, and i dont see where your aguements coming from.

what i said is just because gun control laws become stricter doesnt mean that they will stay out of the hands of the bad guys. Just like drugs are supposedly a controlled substance, yet we have dozens of durggies in my school alone.

understand me now?

um…. me? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

MAD AWSOME!!! this is great…. beyond great… beyond greatest… beyond belief!

i’d say its worth it, but others might not.

…i suppose that didnt help :(

bigger? i have trouble believing that, as a recently heard a news report that its shrinking….

…conflicting reports suck :(

nah, it didnt even break the skin…. but it still scared the S!-!17 out of me, and its a good conversation starter. :lol: :lol: