http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080228/ap_on_re_us/prison_population
america ain’t as free as it thinks it is. :-P …… :cry:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080228/ap_on_re_us/prison_population
america ain’t as free as it thinks it is. :-P …… :cry:
I will only approve of genetic modification if I can program them to be submissive slaves that can not think for themselves and do all the work around the house…also they should expire before they become too old to become a problem.
sounds like your a plantation owner. lol
his younger brother, Raul Castro
he’s like in his 70’s he’ll soon be with Castro in the retirement home.
@Cmdr:
Considering we have no problem with aborting savants and individuals who are inconvenient or deformed, I cannot seehow that argument really holds much water. Unless you want to say that abortion is less harmful then tweaking an individual to make their lives easier.
Techanicaly if you use that agrument then the parents could be jail for a hate crime, murdering because they are descrimanting. I don’t think you can just abort someone because you think that baby is ugly or you wanted a girl. I think you have to have a real reason to abort like having no way to provide for the chilld or something.
@Cmdr:
Is it more ethical to allow nature to produce children with brain damage, who are born addicted to drugs and/or are born with serious physical handicaps just so that you can say that medical science had nothing to do with it? Or is it more ethical to allow medical science to fix these problems at a very early stage, but allow them to also give the child his Mother’s eyes and his father’s chin?
was einstien or lincoln or any of the savants like rain man a problem? they would of been fixed and the world would of be a worse place. You can not change anything in the brain though artificial selection or we will have a society of complete idiots starving who shout out Hail Big Brother. Also if never said why parents should have the right to have a custom designed child. this isn’t a car but a human. unless you have a life threating disease or a severe handicap like being born without your spine fully closed you should not intervene in another’s life. I would rather have 11 toes and made from natural selection than be a artificial selected drone. How do you know that baby would not grow up like me and prefer that choice? Also allowing custom designed children will decrease diversity and make us more prone to pandemic and the like.
@Cmdr:
Yes, but how much of the African population do you think are carrying those genes? Thus, the odds are so ridiculously low, we can exclude it from the discussion.
actually my eye trait is Bb. (mom had blue eyes and dad is black) so i don’t think its that ridiculously low unless your talking about real africans who can’t afford enough food to not starve let alone paying for genetic reengineering. there is also a .4% that a couple with a blue eyed great-grandparent each and the rest being black could have a blue eyed child without knowing. so its not impossible and genetically .4 is not that small. but what gives you the right to intervene in another’s lilfe to make them look how you want.
its sounds liike a good rule but it would mostly only help the allies. cuz they produce more ICs. it would also let Japan produce more so that would be intreasting. but i have tried that.
@Cmdr:
I doubt it, you blitzed something like 150 posts in a day. :P I don’t do that kind of stuff, I’m more methodical.
Anyway, my computer is broken, won’t get it back for 2 weeks (to replace a bloody fan, go figure? Why can’t fans be field replacable in laptops???) So I’m using my husband’s and he has Vista and it is ROYALLY pissing me off. Asking me three times for permission to rename files, gods forbid I actually DELETE something!
i don’t mean to get off topic but i thought you were Christian. are you not?
when is it okay to intervene in another’s life? If it meant that I would rather have 11 toes than to being genetically altered. I think only life threating diseases should be corrected. and maybe blindness and severe handicaps. but alot of famous people were genetically defeated like einstein and lincon. imagined if they were messed with and made “normal”. what is normal anyway? its really just an arbitrary standard set by society.
my first poltical memory was the 2000 election but the first memory that i understood was the the 2004 election. and i’ve liked politics ever since. but to stay on topic what has happened to the navy? you never hear about them. its always the marines and the army. never really hear about the air force either.
@Cmdr:
I’m still hoping someone can come up with a valid reason that fixing birth defects and inherited diseases is unethical and failing that, that choosing which parent’s genes will be the eyes, which the hair, what gender the child is, etc is unethical.
if blue eyes were such a good trait then there would be more blue eyed than brown people. its called natural selection. the good traits come out and the bad traits don’t get passed on. artificial selection will lead to the wrecking of our species. artificial selection makes people more prone to pandemic type stuff because everyone has similar genes. if your genes were so superior you would not need to hand select them and they would be just passed on. also any slight difference in people will be looked down upon at it will be like that movie Gatica.everyone would be the same and there would be no more revolutions or progress because someone decided to think different than everyone else.
M36’s first post is set in a way to leave it open to all situations like this, these are the situations i am refering to. if he admited guilt, then so be it. he is guilty then.
saying your guilty doesn’t mean anything. it doesn’t mean that you did anything wrong. you may of had a good reason to break the law like fear for you life and the safety of others. also a lot of people who were sent to the gulags confessed but never committed any crime. i’m not saying americans are tortured into confession but many plea to a crime just so they get less time even if they didn’t do it but can’t prove there innocence.
@Cmdr:
Why worry about feeding people at all? We could easily splice in sequences from plants so that we are fed by being outside for half an hour at mealtimes. Heck, we could engineer it so we don’t need sleep, and thus, effectively increase human productivity by 25-33% (lots of Americans get far less then 8 hours of sleep, that’s why I put the range in.)
I mean, if we want to take this to ridiculous levels.
Or, we could remain in the realm of actual probabilities. People will select the genes from both parents they like the best. “I would like her to have my wife’s nose.” Or “I would like him to have my husband’s chin.”
As far as appearances go, it’d be the same as plastic surgery, only much safer (no surgery, no anesthetics, no recovery, etc) and more realistic (if Mommy does not have DDD cups, Susie cannot either.)
if traits were good to our survival then they would be naturally selected, and all this artificial selection would not be necessary. in effect we would be making our selves more susceptible to pandemic disease and that kind of stuff. and about this artificial selection, those fetuses are babies, not dogs or corn. we should treat our species with dignity and not try to completely destroy it.
Shouldn’t mountainous also limit armor movement? I think if you are going to include physical characteristics to the map that certain other characteristics should be built in…such as the sahara should no long be impassible but should eat extra movement up or something along those lines. What about heavily forrested or jungle areas etc.?
umm the sahara isn’t impassible. you’ll just die of dehydration. and I don’t think tanks would really work in the desert. wouldn’t they sink? but your right tanks can’t blitz in the mountains.
@stuka:
As far as I am concerned if it ends up with Obama vs McCain, it will be the first election ever in which I will be happy with whoever wins. Romney is out, good. Now if only Hillary bombs out, I will be celebrating a victory. It won’t matter to me who is elected between O and M. They are both good enough for me despite where I agree and disagree on their stances of various issues.
I don’t like any of them but I doubt the republicans have a serious chance of winning. I mean maybe McCain can beat Hillary but i doubt that, and thats only if Paul doesn’t run as a libertarian. I think the real presidential race is between Hillary and Obama.
how does edwards have votes? stupid callifornian voting for a dropout. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#CA
Schneider: Democrats split by education and age
Posted: 10:11 PM ET(CNN) — Beyond race and gender, national exit polls tonight are showing Democrats a varying divisions based on education and age. The more educated the voter, the more likely he or she is an Obama supporter.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
I think that says a lot about hillary. she is winning the votes by people who don’t really know that much and are just voting because there like I remember when Bill was prez. and everything was good. ( the old people) It seems obama is winning most of the states but hillary is getting the two big ones. He lost New York and is going to lose California. so i’m not sure who’ll come out on top. I think if obama can get 40% of clifornia he’ll have the most delegates today. i just glanced over the results so my predictions are probablly wrong.
hey what happens to edwards delegates? and the delegates that other dropouts received? also what happens if you have the most deletes in you party but mot the 50% majority?