Posts made by CrayzKirk

As far as I know, that is true unless an enemy destroyer is present.  then subs can be hit by air and lose first strike and submerge abilities.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            3 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.
                  Germans take Karelia S.S.R. from Russians
            2 infantry moved from Poland to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 7 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 9 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus
                  Germans take Caucasus from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Poland to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Northwestern Europe to 7 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Italy to 15 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 15 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 15 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 14 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Germany to 14 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Bulgaria Romania to 14 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria Romania to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Belorussia
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria Romania to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 artillery moved from Algeria to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 11 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports
                Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 2 transports
            Battle in Belorussia
                Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 4 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in 17 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 14 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 cruiser
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
            Battle in Gibraltar
            Battle in 7 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 battleship and 1 transport; Russians defend with 1 submarine
                Germans win, taking Gibraltar from British with 2 fighters and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Germans: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 transport
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to France
            1 artillery moved from Southern Europe to Bulgaria Romania
            1 infantry moved from Southern Europe to Bulgaria Romania
            1 armour moved from Italy to Bulgaria Romania
            2 armour moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 armour moved from Northwestern Europe to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Northwestern Europe to 5 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to Finland
            1 fighter moved from 14 Sea Zone to Libya
            1 fighter moved from 14 Sea Zone to France
            2 armour moved from France to Poland
            1 bomber moved from 17 Sea Zone to Germany
            2 fighters moved from Belorussia to Poland

Place Units - Germans
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Germany
            2 armour and 1 bomber placed in Italy

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
            1 unit repaired.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            3 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.
                  Germans take Karelia S.S.R. from Russians
            2 infantry moved from Poland to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 7 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 9 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus
                  Germans take Caucasus from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Poland to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Northwestern Europe to 7 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Italy to 15 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 15 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 15 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 14 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Germany to 14 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Bulgaria Romania to 14 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria Romania to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Belorussia
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria Romania to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 artillery moved from Algeria to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 11 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports
                Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 2 transports
            Battle in Belorussia
                Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 4 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in 17 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 14 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 cruiser
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
            Battle in Gibraltar
            Battle in 7 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 battleship and 1 transport; Russians defend with 1 submarine
                Germans win, taking Gibraltar from British with 2 fighters and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Germans: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 transport
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to France
            1 artillery moved from Southern Europe to Bulgaria Romania
            1 infantry moved from Southern Europe to Bulgaria Romania
            1 armour moved from Italy to Bulgaria Romania
            2 armour moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 armour moved from Northwestern Europe to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Northwestern Europe to 5 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to Finland
            1 fighter moved from 14 Sea Zone to Libya
            1 fighter moved from 14 Sea Zone to France
            2 armour moved from France to Poland
            1 bomber moved from 17 Sea Zone to Germany
            2 fighters moved from Belorussia to Poland

Place Units - Germans
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Germany
            2 armour and 1 bomber placed in Italy

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
            1 unit repaired.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            3 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.
                  Germans take Karelia S.S.R. from Russians
            2 infantry moved from Poland to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 7 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 9 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus
                  Germans take Caucasus from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Poland to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Northwestern Europe to 7 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Italy to 15 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 15 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 15 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 14 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Germany to 14 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Bulgaria Romania to 14 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria Romania to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Belorussia
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria Romania to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 artillery moved from Algeria to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 11 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports
                Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 2 transports
            Battle in Belorussia
                Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 4 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in 17 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 14 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 cruiser
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
            Battle in Gibraltar
            Battle in 7 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 battleship and 1 transport; Russians defend with 1 submarine
                Germans win, taking Gibraltar from British with 2 fighters and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Germans: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 transport
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to France
            1 artillery moved from Southern Europe to Bulgaria Romania
            1 infantry moved from Southern Europe to Bulgaria Romania
            1 armour moved from Italy to Bulgaria Romania
            2 armour moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 armour moved from Northwestern Europe to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Northwestern Europe to 5 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to Finland
            1 fighter moved from 14 Sea Zone to Libya
            1 fighter moved from 14 Sea Zone to France
            2 armour moved from France to Poland
            1 bomber moved from 17 Sea Zone to Germany
            2 fighters moved from Belorussia to Poland

Place Units - Germans
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Germany
            2 armour and 1 bomber placed in Italy

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
            1 unit repaired.

Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.8.0.9, time: 00:06:14

Ok…  outvoted…  I always use the add up each type and divide by 6 rule.  Add +1 for enemy fire, subtract +1 for friendly fire…  :roll:

Thanks…  I thought that once a submarine submerged, it was out of that battle completely.  I must need to re-read the rules.

I would like to propose that the use of the battle calculator is not allowed in tournaments.  If I were to play a game of chess against another person, it would not be fair for me to simply enter the game into a computer and ask for the best move.  After all, isn’t this supposed to be person vs person, not person vs person + computer?

What does everyone else think?

Kirk S.

Yes, as long as no destroyer is present, submarines may submerge before any round of combat and are removed from the battle.

Kirk S.

Darn it, life happened.  Going camping this weekend and will be back late Sunday.  I like the Allies and it seems that there should be a way for the triple income to overcome the map advantage.  However, it does seem that the Axis can play some risky moves early and not really be punished if they go wrong.

I don’t really know how to play either side.  No game that I’ve ever played has gone past 3 rounds.

i would like to try a game for whatever…  i like the bomber for Russia.  I would like to learn…

I am ready for my next game, please…

Ok…  why are you not buying transports and pushing towards Russia?  Shall we play a game of chess with me giving you my queen to start?

forgot I gave up my carrier and gave away a fighter.  Oh well, salad does that…  If I had played it correctly, i would have 2 cruisers left…  Alas, I’m a dummy…    :-(

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 5 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from India to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Burma to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 47 Sea Zone to Borneo
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Western Canada to Alaska
            1 armour moved from Eastern Canada to Alaska
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Australia to 39 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Australia to 39 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 49 Sea Zone to New Guinea

Combat - British
            Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory
                Bombing raid in Germany causes 3 damage total.
            Battle in Borneo
                British attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in New Guinea
                British attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking New Guinea from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in 5 Sea Zone
                British attack with 2 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
            Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 fighters
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                British win with 1 cruiser and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 fighters

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter could not land in 37 Sea Zone and was removed
            1 bomber could not land in Germany and was removed
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to India
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from 5 Sea Zone to West Russia
            1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia

Place Units - British
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in India
            1 artillery placed in India
            2 fighters placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs total

Yeah, it’s giving Russia a chance by spending 12 on the water.  I might just resign now.  The dice didn’t go that well…

You have to download the prior savegame and load it before your turn.  Make sure you hit the post button instead of done as it will skip that part and you are toast…

my e-mail is: kspradling@kc.rr.com

Enter it into the CC:

I got mail from the dice server…  It likes the axis…  ;-)

My first move didn’t post properly…  here is the savegame…  I think?

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