Posts made by Chesty Wilmot

Has anyone tried building 1 fighter a round with Italy. I thought I would try this and it’s worked great. Every round I’ve bought a fighter with the Italians. What I ve been doing is flying them up to german industrial complexes to defend against USA 's 4 bombers. I ve worked on having up to 3 fighters at each major industrial complex between the germans and the italians. This has kept him from using bombers and using the Italian fighters in germany has freed up the German fighters to go and fight in other theatres. Also it s developed now that I decide to build an airbase in sicily which when the time comes will work like an aircraft carrier defencively. This now makes the italians a very tough prospect for the allied fleets in the Med. I now have 8 fighters and 1 bomber my navies got 8 destroyers, italy tough in hardware seems to be the way to go. Has anyone tried the fighter build doctrine with the Italians?

@mantlefan:

Yeah Gallipoli sure helped a lot. I understand it’s nice to feel like one’s country matters on a macro military  level but it’s best to approach things rationally than with hubris.

Hey Boof Head,

Gallipoli was nothing! Have alook at the Western Front and how theAustralians turned things around for the allies when they Arrived. If your a Yank You can thank an Australian for being the only foreign commander to be given command of USA forces in a theatre of War in the Battle of Amiens which was the first battles fought by the Americans in ww1 and was a planning triumph by field Marshall Monash. They probably dont tell you about this on the History channel. The Australians and the Canadians won world war 1 by being far superior agressive seasoned troops and smart revolutionary tacticians. Gudarian the farther of blitzkreig achnowleges Monash as the First Commander to use Blitzing tactics.

In the game I’m playing now I’ve managed to keep Anzac from turnig into a little monster. What i did i think in the second round was I took new britain with 1 inf. My transport was safe as he couldn’t fly out and attack it. So this stops the anzacs from getting 5 dollars bonus also My opponent didn’t build a destoyer at the beginig and i was able to push a sub of queensland to disruptt convoys and take off two dollars. These things seemed to keep Anzac down as in other games we’ve played Anzac gets monsterous and is a real menace. Has anyone got some strategies to contain Anzac?

I love the Fact the anzacs are in this game its about time the yanks and Brits acknowledge the amazing contribution these two countries have made to the military conquests of the Western democracy’s in the last 100 years. If it wasnt for Aussies I think you all would have been stuffed that goes for world one in a massive way and world war to in a big way. Cheers.

If you have know idea do some reading on it.

I dont think the germans can waste time building a Industrial complex. I’ved used Mec Inf From Germany and I bought 4 tanks in the first round so by r5 I’m on Moscows door step with about 16 tanks  8 art and 9 inf and 26 mec units getting Mec units from Germany and also now lenningrad. The russians are losing money and can not pull away in the race to build inf foder. If you keep this up and the japs hassle from other side it puts you in with a chance to attack and win moscow. If russians make a mistake and send units down to the middle east or out to confront the japs your in with a big chance. I find spending the time building a complex plus also the money spent gives the russians to much time to gather their defence and makes attacking in a drawn out campaign nearly completely impossible.
Has anyone else had success attacking russia without the Germans buildig a complex. “Go for broke, winter isnt a factor!”(Chesty Wilmot).  :-D

One thing that worked for me against china in the game I m playing now is that i attacked  a stack of mixed brit & china units 5 inf and 2 art plus a chinese plane and brit palne in his first effort to form a front in yunnan. He felt pretty confident about holding, as all i could get in where two Mec inf but I could send in 17 planes all up (As we are playing OOB still) What ended up happening is he got four hits so i took the loss of the two fights but new that it was worth the risk as I had eliminated China’s main form of attack for future rounds. This has handicaped the chinese and is working great.If your playing alpha 2 ithink you dont have so many jap planes but I think if you thought about positioing yourself to do it early with the planes you do have it could be worth the risk. Also I send my Jap bombers over to help the  germans early in the game to bomb moscow it sounds way out but all it takes is an airbase in suiyuyan. If done early in the game along with german bombing this can realy stuff moscow. The russians have a tendency to fly out and do attacks with planes so they cant get back to moscow Maybe 1-2 rounds Bombing runs maybe able to be made without the worry of interceptors. I brave the interceptors with my bombers as it’s only one roll of 2 or less for each fighter for 1 round of combat . you need Luck.

Also Building any extra Industrial complexes with the germans is a waste of time, Thats why I build a mec force for eastern front They get there quickly and you can build more of them then the  russians can make men as the Russian income is dropping round by round by taking territory and Bombing.

Func- I said you sound like a dude because you kind of Havent given up on OOB like me and it sounds like to me anyway people didnt play OOB enough to fully comprehend and play test it. From my memory people started whinging after 1 week. Also it sounds like alot of people have some very short games 3-5 rounds and they get a result, how can this be, every game I’ve played has gone 15-23 rounds. I reckon it to cricket- there is 20/20 hit and giggle style or there is a test match which has five days where no player can hide and there abilites are shown for what they are. If your games are over before 6- rounds you arent playing properly or playing very able opponents or crazy ones for that matter. I’m interested in Alpha but I do feel I havent fully explore the strategic potential of OOB yet.
I would like another year of play so i can try all the different ways to play each country.
Cheers

I was meaning Germans Starts it Strategic Bombing campaign r2, Japs start R4 flying from airbase in suiyuyan built r3. That is what is was meaning.

I must be behind the times But I ve only played 3 games and they have taken me and my mate 5 months to play 1-2 nights a week for 4-5 hours. We haven’t moved onto any alpha rules yet but I m interested by peoples comments and i want to get a copy of Alpha 2 rules. Can anyone help me?and Also how many games have people played before they changed. Each game takes so long it hardly seems like enough time has passed. Func sounds like a dude.

My mate did it later in the game as the germans. He went from greece into turkey, which I didnt realise at the time does not require transports. Within 2 rounds I had 30 more infintry working for me as the allies. Attacking a strict neutral is last ditch manouvre.

Is anyone still playing with the original rules? Me and my mate have palyed 3 games and we still have not got to the point of wanting to change to alpha. I dont know how people have had the time to fully experiment with the game before wanting to change to alpha setup.

@cts17:

Operation Barbarossa all the way for this guy :)

Seriously, who doesn’t want to pound the Russians with everything you have?

Agreed

Plus any good player will see Sealion coming a mile off. Bomb  Moscow with german bombers and Jap bombers Start R2. This cripples the ruskies defence. The germans build heaps of mec drive for Moscow Quickly no stopping.

Yes the airbase is neccesary because this allows the jap planes to fly the seven spaces needed to land in Leningrad and the space below it which I cant remember the name. I think suiyuyan is perfect as its a good distance back from the russian mec forces moving from moscow but it also still allows planes from there good movement down to the burma china boarder but back up towards the far east. I was trying to do it without an airbase originaly but it was important and if you land in leningrad you can fly back all the way to suiyuyan and just keep on doing bombing runs until he has to many interceptors.This coupled with the german attack worked well. I think round 2 is early enough but I might try the same thing but on round 1 and take out those ruskies on the front before they have a chance to retreat. I dont know though. this is what i did in the game I m playig now.R1 France, Finland, bulgaria, R2 Yugo, Greece, Russia(strategic Bomb as well). R6 in Moscow need starlingrad got 27 dollars off the ruskies.My opponent is doing some crazy stuff so will see what happens. :mrgreen:

German Strategy
Buy Bomber first turn. Dont bomb R1 Start campaign strategic Bombing campaign R2 .Also there is a Chance Russian fighters wont be in Moscow.Buy tank and Mec units as well.
Then R2 buy 5-6 Inf for Paris and rest on Mec and then same again go after go. Find Mec Move To East front quick dont waste time on Industrial complexs.Drive for Leniongrad with Main force first via inland route not Baltic coast as this can force a retreat by Leningrad defenders.

JAPS- Keep 4 jap bombers for bombing moscow. Drive jap land force thru north china. R3 build a Airbase in suiyuyan R4 Start bombing Moscow with 4 bombers. Meanwhile You’ve kept up your Bombing with the two german bombers- This wrecks havoc with USSR right at its time of crisis and realy limits what they can put in. Also be moving bulk of forces against russian front as well. This plan has worked for me even when the worst luck happened to my bombers. I still did enough damage for it to be effective.It also demoralises the Russian who are already coming to terms with an early German attack on R2.

Took Moscow R6 and still have 16 tanks & 3 Art left i got lucky and did way better then i thought. His USA forces have just built a IC major in Norway & He has invested heavily against Jap with Yanks commiting to a major operation in the soviet far east North pacific. I need only now take calcutta and cairo after I take starlingrad. He could have put up a much better fight If he still had the 2 russian fighters in there with the Tac plus He also had 3 pommy fighters there as well but moved them the round before I attacked. He has flown his planes over to Russian Eastern force which he has left over in the east, who at some stage will probably try to join up with theUSA forces in Soviet far east. He said he wanted germany to be a monster and that He basicaly let me take Moscow, but I think He may have been in trouble even if he had everything He could put in. At the beginning I bought mec units for Italy and sent 2 mec 2 tanks & 2 art plus a fighter to help the germans on the Eastern front. These guys can put pressure on a one man blocker defence technique utilised by the soviets but also stuff with your opponents head. It looks like He’s got a real challenage for himself. I do kind of wish He had tried to defend moscow with all He had as I would have liked to seen my strategy up against it. Buy Mec Units Germany Don

Hi ,

Went Russia r2, but I bought german bomber r2 as part of a plan. 2 bombers bomb moscow r3, Japs have got to get Jap units across north China and Build an airbase r3 with Japs to place  in suiyuyan and by r4  4 Jap bombers fly from suiyuyan and Bomb Moscow Hopefully Max two fighter there. Then land in leningrad if like me you just took it with the germans. First German bombing run was great I did 9 damage off moscow just as leningrads was falling to my ground forces . Then  r4 german bombers go in, did 5 damage bad rolls, Japs also go in with 4 bombers he gets lucky with AA and gets 2 hits but I still do 5 damage which is disappointig but none the less these Jap bombers are restricting USSR’s chances to defend itself. I was unlucky as he then rolled two AA hits the next round but anyway even so I dont care because as of now it has denied russia right at the crucial time because now at the begining of r6 I have 9 inf 22 Mec 8 art 16 tanks 2 fighters, 3 tactical bombers  and 1 bomber that can attack moscow which has 48 inf and 9 art defending. His Mec army of 4 tanks and 3 mec are in china. so cant counter straight away. He can only counter with 3 mec 2 fight 1 tac. The men removed from this bombing move has really helped and it could have been so much more devestating if he wasnt so lucky. I attack Moscow tonight I hope to win it with 5-8 tanks left and that luck goes my way tonight. He wants me to break myself on moscow but I cant believe He has flown out his planes. I have to go Now it’s my best chance. I recomend axis players consider this use for jap bombers it adds much more immediate help to Axis war effort. We are still playing with the original rules as well not alpha.